Talk:List of Oh My Goddess episodes/Archive 1

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1 Too many images
2 Title capilisation
3 Images
4 Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Oh My Goddess episodes
5 Images need fair use Rationales

Too many images

I feel there may be too many images on this page. Even on DSL it takes a little while to load: anyone with dial-up will likely be unable to load this page in reasonable time. Elric of Grans 00:24, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

I merely had taken List of Star Trek: TNG episodes as an example. It has far many more images. :) --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 13:35, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Title capilisation

There is inconsistant capitalisation in the titles: it makes it a little messy to read. This would be easy enough to standardise, but what would be the best way? Wikipedia recommends capitalisation of only the first word and any subsequent proper nouns for the titles of articles (which each of these are, if you follow the link); I would extend this to also including the first word of a new sentance, for our purposes here. We could, however, keep capitalisation across the board, but come to some agreement as to which types of words are (not) capitalised. The former would keep things closer to Wiki guidelines, while the latter would probably be more aesthetically pleasing. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Elric of Grans (talk • contribs) .

Hmmm... I dont know. Possible, why not create redirects to these titles? Likely the titles will change withofficial dub releases. --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 14:38, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Good point on the title changes: it would be best to wait and see what the official titles are for the TV series. We already have the official ones for the OVAs, however, so can do something with them now. I think redirects on 'and' vs 'And' or whatnot are pedantic, so we should probably just agree to one standard and move them all to it. I can do the move as I add content to them, but need to know which standard to use. Elric of Grans 04:07, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

They are capitalised in the official versions tho. --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 08:29, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

I am not saying that is wrong: I am merely pointing out that it is inconsistent. Some use one set of rules, others use another. I feel it would just look a little better if we standardised them all to one set. It is a very minor issue, but would make everything look a little cleaner. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Elric of Grans (talk • contribs) .

I really see it as a waiste of time since when someone types it either way they will see the right page. I do not object if you "fix" tens of pages, I just am stating its not worth the effort :). --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 17:00, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Images

That looks a lot better, image-wise! It is probably worth noting that the US release will likely be a little different (more episodes per DVD, and possibly different DVD covers), but we can update that as we go along. If you are changing to that style, then adding in the Mini-Goddess episodes to this page would not be so bad either. It will be a while before I get up to them, however, so they will either be low on content or someone else will need to fill them in. I would be opposed to each Mini-Goddess episode having an article of its own, but perhaps one article per 4 episode, or per DVD, would be OK. Elric of Grans 22:28, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

IIRC there is only one DVD the entier mini-serries fit into... I dont know how to do the mini serries since it is a completely diferent entitiy, perhaps a seperate list or maybe in here. I just dont know. I do not have access to the list of mini serrries eposides + air date + kanji + romanji etc... --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 16:56, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

I linked you to a list of (English) episode titles and (Japanese) air dates at Talk:Oh My Goddess!#Staff and Cast. The Japanese titles would take a little searching, but I could probably find them. As for sorting... I am at a bit of a loss there. It is not available in my country, so I do not know anything about how the English release is sorted. Elric of Grans 22:09, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

3 images are from the US dvd releases. Others are from the official AMG website. I do not know how many episodes per dvd it will be. I suspect it will be 3 per dvd... :/ --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 16:58, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

The normal in English releases (at the moment) is five DVDs of four episodes and two of three, however, some will do two DVDs of five episodes and four of four. Elric of Grans 22:09, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

In order to have more images I think its ok to stick with japanese covers then :) --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 01:14, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

This is English Wikipedia, so I personally feel it would be better to use the English covers, and so the English episodes/disc. More images does not a better list make: this list should be about content, not images, so having superflous images, placed arbritrarially amongst the list, seems like a poor decission. If you would like to go with the US ordering, I read in Newtype USA that disc one contains the first five episodes. Elric of Grans 22:01, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

'US' does not dominate wikipedia. I feel the japanese covers are more approporate as after all the serries were produced in Japan. The arbitrary ordering of the DVD's is based on the official japanese website of the serries. --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 12:18, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Right on, Cool Cat! With no offence to Americans, but the US isn't the be end all of the world. With the current problems with the english dub in terms of distibation i feel it would be better that Japanese covers are used. That way the article doesn't risk getting biased. -Dynamo_ace Talk

True however I have taken the liberty to upload region two dvd covers, we need to find a smart way to put both regional releases to the article. --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 21:41, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

A possible comprimise, I used the DVD covers for region 1 on the actual Ah! My Goddess and Oh My Goddess!. Better? --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 18:22, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Region 1:

Region 2:

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Oh My Goddess episodes

Do you guys not want this to pass. I know you like this page Elric of Grans. :) --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 11:23, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

This list has seen far too much work to not pass, so i've removed many of the smaller images, they were already hard to see, and will help to assuage mine and many others issues with the pages fair use claims -AKMask 12:12, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Ok. Sorry for my perhaps rude comments on the FLC page, I am kinda stressed about this page not reciving the FL as fast as it perhaps should :) --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 12:21, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

oh, no worries at all... with those tiny images being my main reason to oppose now gone, im changing my vote. AKMask 12:24, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Actually, I feel it is a little early to be thinking about a Featured List: you made the request only hours after starting the page. Over the next few months, as the US releases come out, the episode titles are sure to change, and we will also soon have more information on the OVA episodes. Given the cover for them, however, it is obvious which story they are based on. Likely sometime before series two begins this will probably make a good candidate, but I feel it is a little early. Besides, on the FLC page is says that all images should have captions. A very small, easy to correct point, but it shows that this page has not been compared with the criteria yet. Elric of Grans 22:03, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

In a few hours of creation the page had its current form (I constructred this on my sandbox). All Images do have captions. :P --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 21:26, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

The page will never be complete so long as it is ongoing (which I sincerely hope is many many seasons). Hence waiting several months for all episodes to air in the states is not really necesarry in my POV. --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 21:34, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Images need fair use Rationales

For example

   == Fair use for [[ARTICLE NAME]] ==
    This image, picture-fair-use.jpg, is being linked here; though the picture is subject to copyright I (~~~) feel it is covered by the U.S. fair use laws because:
    # it is a low resolution copy of a DVD cover;
    # it does not limit the copyright owners rights to sell the DVD album in any way;
    # copies could not be used to make illegal copies of the DVD artwork on another DVD;
    # the image on the cover is significant because it was made by a famous artist, [[name]].

I'm not an expert but the the images seem like they may be too large? Perhaps resize them? Discordance 00:46, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Please dont bother me with copyright paranoia, if you are not satisfied with the standard fair use template for dvd covers used wikipedia wide mention it in the templates talk page. The images apear at a low resolution. Much smaller than they appear on amazon.com. Unless TBS complains about the fair-use rationales we present, I do not believe there are any issues here. --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 19:37, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

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