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Contents 1 Distress call 2 Schedule for episodes 200-204 3 End of Fillers? 4 Name of the current arc 5 Shippuden 6 Retitling of the Current Arc 7 First Shippūden anime arc

[edit] Distress call

In Lee's Dojo episode, it wasn't Ino's distress call, it was Shikamaru's destress call. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.237.219.48 (talk • contribs) 19:29, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Schedule for episodes 200-204

Check this image: [1]. --TheYmode 03:41, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

As much as I love love Dattebayo, and I do so love them, a more official source would be helpful. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 03:59, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry to say that Dattebayo's screwing with you. Like they always do. The only truth to that is that 201 is the end of the Konoha 11 arc and 202 is a clip show. Here's the real schedule: [2] The Splendiferous Gegiford 15:24, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Can somebody add the description for Episode 202?

[edit] End of Fillers?

We've all heard lots of rumors before, but this one is from Naruto's creator and is published in the Weekly Jump, so hopefully the fillers really will end in Spring of 2007 (source).

P.S. I tried to add a mention of this here, but it got immediately reverted by some bot. Oh well.

[edit] Name of the current arc

I'm thinking if Team 10 continues to grow in importance during this fight, the name of the arc could just be the "Team 10 arc". This is kind of supported by the fact that it's assumed later on that Team 8 will get a lot of screentime as well and have a "Team 8 arc" of their own. The Splendiferous Gegiford 01:16, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I can go with that. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 01:17, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shippuden

Is it really necessary to call part 2 shippuden? Shippuden is anime-specific and the things it is talking about is from the manga. -User:Mooseguy

Is it really that big of a deal that it's worth arguing over?--Whoa2000 07:16, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Retitling of the Current Arc

Someone recently retitled the current arc as "Immortals." I'm of the feeling it isn't entirely inaccurate, but it is limited. I'd personally vote for "Counterattack," since Kohona isn't going after just Kakuzu and Hidan, but the entirety of Akatsuki. When it comes to retitling arcs, I feel people should pool their thoughts here in discussion before impulsively editing, especially when the arc isn't yet finished and we have no clue when it will end (and thus, what it will further include). Given this, who thinks of this alternate title? Valer 18:34, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

I've never read any of the manga, so I know what I say will probably go ignored, but since everyone keeps saying the arc covers too many different events to have one name cover all of them, have you considered breaking it into multiple arcs? Whoa2000 16:06, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately that’s impossible, the stories are intertwined with each other, but this arc was mainly about Kakuzu and Hidan, their mission to capture naruto which lead them to the fire country and all the battles in this arc are with them, like it say on the last page of chapter 312 in the beginning of this arc: “The Akatsuki starts to make its move… a new pair makes an appearance!”, which gave us a hint about what this arc going to be about. TheYmode 00:00, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

I disagree; the fact that the arc focused a lot on Team 10 was significant as it was the first time a team other than Team 7 was given that much attention. The fact that because of this there's a high possibility that Team 8 will get their own arc with this much attention supports this. The Splendiferous Gegiford 00:26, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

The arc focused on Shikamaru (and Asuma to a degree), Hidan and Kakuzu, and Naruto's training. Only half of Team 10 actually contributed to the arc. Unless we call it "The Important Half of Team 10 arc", I disagree with the choice in name. ~SnapperTo 19:59, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Snapper is right, Ino and Choji didn't really appear until chapter 330 or so, and then used a couple of jutsu each. It isn't about team 10 as a whole at all. Mostly it seems to have been about Naruto and Shikamaru obtaining enough power to fight Akatsuki. Retlor 02:56, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't read the manga all that much, so my opinion likely doesn't account for much. But maybe "Will of Fire" would work for a name? It mainly refers to Shikamaru and Asuma, but it can refer to Naruto and all that training of his, too... Raven23 03:30, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

And it would tie quite nicely into what Naruto said about rekindling Sasuke's strength. I think that's certainly a better title than 'Team 10' arc. Retlor 06:32, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

The more I think about it, the more "Hidan and Kakuzu arc" sounds better I guess because they were the main obstacles of the arc. Though I still think it would be best to wait and see if Team 8 gets a lot of screentime in the next one. The Splendiferous Gegiford 20:24, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Can we please agree on a better title for the arc soon? "Team 10 arc" is just stupid. "Hidan and Kakuzu Arc", "Immortals Arc", "Niju Shotai Arc", "Shogi Arc" (almost all important characters had a shogi counterpart) or even "Konoha strikes back" sound and describes it better. "Will of Fire", however is imo too fitting for the series overall instead of just this arc. ~ Felcis 08:04, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

"The Important Half of Team 10 and Team 7 arc" is ten times stupider than just "Team 10". Such ridiculous verbosity is unnecessary. "Team 10" can stay till we get something better. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 09:31, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Of course it is, that was the point. I think it´s almost the only title that´s more stupid and unfitting than "Team 10 arc". More the reason to decide a better one. ~ Felcis 11:58, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Going through the articles and changing the name to something stupid really isn't the best way to prove your point. "Hidan and Kakuzu arc" is probably the only option that could apply to the majority of the arc without sounding ambiguous. ~SnapperTo 20:15, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Shall we just go with 'Hidan and Kakuzu arc'? It started with their introduction, and ended with their death/incapacitation. The other members of Akatsuki don't appear in any significant capacity, Orochimaru doesn't appear. The whole point of the arc is building to their defeat at the hands of Naruto and Shikamaru. I feel that 'Team 10' is something of a misnomer, considering Ino and Choji have very limited roles. Retlor 21:57, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I think 'Hidan and Kakuzu arc' is the best name too, I don't think we should make up complicated names, keep it simple and to the point. TheYmode 01:14, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, I think that the "Immortals Arc" makes the most sense. We are likely to see Shika's team (team 10) do more notable things in the future; Kakuza and Hidan, on the other hand, won't do anything else significant. We can be sure of that. This was, most definitely, THEIR arc.

"Immortals arc" doesn't fit because Kakuzu is not immortal. "Niju Shotai arc" and "Shogi arc" are both stupid too. The only two names that could fit are "Team 10 arc" and "Hidan and Kakuzu arc". Like I said, it's best to wait and see if Team 8 gets their own arc after this Sasuke/Oro fight before renaming it. The Splendiferous Gegiford 22:04, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Again, Team 10 was not a driving force to this arc; Shikamaru and his need to avenge Asuma were the only elements of Team 10 to actually do anything. Leaving it named "Team 10 arc" just in case someone on Team 8 does something significant in the near future doesn't stop it from being an inadequate name. ~SnapperTo 22:53, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Even if they had been the driving force it would be stupid to name the arc after them. Arcs are mostly named after an important event or mission, important characters or organisations that get introduced, the main villians or a special place it takes place. So the only names that really makes sense for the whole arc is "Immortals arc" (Kakuzu isn´t exactly immortal, but he is seen as one in some way, because he has "eternal" life) or "Hidan and Kakuzu arc" ("Niju Shotai" would be only fitting for the first part, "Shogi" is too special and "Konoha strikes back" or anything with revenge is to basic). "Hidan and Kakuzu arc" should do it. ~ Felcis 17:30, 7 March 2007 (UTC)—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Felcis (talk • contribs) 17:27, 7 March 2007 (UTC).

Yes, I realize that Kakuza isn't immortal by definition, but he is very close to being so. He does/did have the ability to live forever.

Yep, that´s why "immortal´s Arc" wouldn´t be too bad, either. But there is the problem that such "immortallity" isn´t quite unique for Kakuzu, in the Naruto Universe. Ochimaru has a similiar way to be "immortal", Sasori had eternal "life" too and there may be even more characters later. So "Hidan and Kakuzu arc" is not very original, but fitting and definitly not wrong. ~ Felcis 08:22, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Might I nominate the name "Shogi Arc"? If I recall correctly, Shikamaru and Asuma are seen playing Shogi by the 2nd-3rd chapter of the arc. Hidan and Kazuku's names are based on Shogi pieces. Constant Shogi symbolism is brought up (Asuma protecting the King, Shikamaru as a Knight, etc). And, last but not least, the arc closes with Shikaku ending a game of Shogi. Meh... a bit cheesy, but I'm throwing it out there. You Can't See Me! 07:21, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] First Shippūden anime arc

Admittedly I haven't read the manga, so I don't know how it presents it, but given that the current anime arc seems to be merging the first two arcs in the Shippūden list, would it not make sense to reflect this in the episode numbering? As I understand it, the manga's Reintroduction incorporates the second bell test, but by the numbering used it is the anime's Rescue Gaara arc; also Akatsuki begin their efforts in Suna in what is currently numbered as the anime's Reintroduction arc... R'win 21:35, 23 March 2007 (UTC)