Talk:List of HIV-positive people

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[edit] Junk removed

I saw this page and much useful information had been replaced with rubbish so I reverted it. That's my IP address on the edit; apologies for not logging in first. Feel free to delete this section of the talk page. Naptastic 05:23, 11 December 2006 (UTC) Naptastic

[edit] Feature?

Now that Garion96 has brought it up to scratch, how about nominating this as a featured list? Trezatium 14:32, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Or at least aiming to do so in the near future. I don't think it's quite there yet, as it's not totally comprehensive, and some of the "Comments" could do with improvement. Trezatium 14:47, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
Not yet. Although it was indeed my plan to do in the near future. :) The comments need to be improved and the intro needs to be expanded. A mention for instance the impact AIDS/HIV had on the arts. Garion96 (talk) 15:16, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
I agree that it might be a good idea to mention that HIV has disproportionately affected artists and entertainers, but I've been unable to work out how to integrate such a sentence into the current introduction. Also, such a comment would have to stress that the phenomenon only applies to the USA and some other Western countries, because it's not true globally. Trezatium 20:19, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
I guess it's better to leave it as it is. Perhaps that would be more fitting for a seperate article (if someone ever decides to write that). Since this list is not only for the entertainment industry. Garion96 (talk) 11:08, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Some quick analysis

The list now has 271 entries, compared to 149 on September 29th. Of these, 42 people (15%) are living. The word "American" appears 176 times (two times for every three entries). "British" appears 22 times; "English", 6; "Canadian", 19; "French", 15; and "South African", 12. Trezatium 19:12, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Considering this is the English Wikipedia, it's still more of an international list than I thought. Garion96 (talk) 11:08, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unsourced

Regarding the list of unsourced names, I've tried most of them in Google, newspaper online archives (New York Times, Toronto Star, The Times and The Australian), Randy Shilts' And the band played on (index and Amazon full text search), and even a book about the AIDS Quilt. Any alternative suggestions are welcome. Trezatium 14:08, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Famous"?

Shouldn't this be renamed to List of famous HIV-positive people? -- Jeandré, 2006-10-31t11:45z

That's a reasonable suggestion. However, when we debated the inclusion criteria in the featured list discussion it was decided that "notability" was implicit, "since it is a basic rule on Wikipedia that lists of people cannot include non-notable people", and because it's common sense that no such list would try to include all of the 65 million eligible people. Some lists included in Category:Lists of people do have the word "famous" in their titles, but personally I think it's unnecessary. I'm unaware of any guidelines on this issue. Trezatium 20:36, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tommy Morrison

I've removed Tommy Morrison because his HIV status is uncertain (see this recent news story). Given that he's a living person, I think it's best to omit him unless and until he is confirmed to be truly infected. False positives can occur, as can laboratory mistakes. Trezatium 21:16, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alexander Wilson (writer, horticulturist)

I added Alex Wilson, hopefully correctly. Here's the reference that refers to his having died with AIDS:

Pinkville 21:27, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your contribution. I'm not sure that the reference you cited is entirely reliable. I've replaced it with another reference, though I'm not entirely convinced about that one either. It would be great if someone could find a photo of the memorial or a news article that clearly mentions his cause of death. Trezatium 20:42, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your added reference. Writing the stub article on him I ran into a common problem for people prominent in the 1980s and early 1990s - they're not recent enough to have many traces on the Internet, and not old enough to have many traces in printed matter... Pinkville 21:25, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jeffrey Mylett

Someone suggested Jeff for this list on the article's talk page. The best source is IMDB mentioned on that page. But it seems over my head technically to see how to add him to this list. Cott12 Talk 22:22, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment, but unfortunately IMDB doesn't qualify as a reliable source (as previously discussed). Trezatium 20:18, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sources

Liberace Source: his entry in Wikipedia
Rock Hudson Source: his entry in Wikipedia, common knowledge, and every newspaper in the USA —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dick Kimball (talk • contribs). 19:13, 22 February 2007

Wikipedia can't use itself as a reference and every newspaper is too vague. However it's not necessary since both those entries are already in the list and sourced. Garion96 (talk) 18:19, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

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