Talk:List of Firefly episodes
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[edit] Distinction
You may want to make a distinction between the order in which they were actually shown and the order in which they were supposed to be shown. If someone reads this in 10 years and tries to track down some tapes, they will probably want the planned order rather than the aired order. (You can get questions about this answered at rec.arts.sf.tv.) -- B.Bryant
- Noted. I basically just copy/pasted those from another site, and haven't gotten around to refining them. I fondly hope that someone 10 years from now will be able to go out and buy the DVD box set with eight seasons or so - I love this show! The news that it might be cancelled before even finishing a season was quite a downer. Wapcaplet
Information from http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/cult/2003/06/18/5161.shtml. Could anyone regard the episode names as spoilers? Should this page not be combined with the main Firefly (television series) page? - Jeandré, 2003-06-22t16:45z
- I don't think the episode names are really spoilers, so we probably don't need the spoiler warning unless we start discussing the plot of each episode.
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- Agreed.
- I'm not sure I like the table format over the list format, though (see Wikipedia:How to use tables).
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- Why don't you like the table? Is it the specific rendering, or the idea of using a table? I think with four important items, it needs to be tabled. Should we put the premier date on the left tho? I used the intended episode numbers on the left because that is an important piece of info, showing the chaotic situation.
- For most TV shows, the episode list is separate, but since it looks like this episode list is going to stay short forever, I wouldn't object to merging it with the main article. -- Wapcaplet 18:09 22 Jun 2003 (UTC)
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- I now think we should keep the table caption (1st season), and the seperate page — hopefully we'll get more seasons :).
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- I haven't seen 11/13 yet (don't spoilt it please), but should we yet mention that River's psychic abilities, and the faster than light travel (Mal's intro vs. Book's), makes this fantasy and soft sf? - Jeandré, 2003-06-22t21:28z
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- I haven't seen the last three episodes either (well, last three unaired, not last three in order... stupid Fox :) but am anxiously awaiting them on DVD... As for the table, I do not object to it that strongly. I suppose you're right; with the extra information of intended episode number, a table may be best. Episode numbers on the left is good. If we do mention River's abilities and other spoiler stuff, it probably should go on the main article (which already has the spoiler warning), unless you plan to tie it into the development of each episode. -- Wapcaplet 21:32 22 Jun 2003 (UTC)
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Sould we add the order the episodes were shown in different countries?
- USA: 2/4; 5/9; 10, 14, 1 (different time slots?).
- UK: 1/14?.
- ZA: 2/10, 14, 1, 11/13.
-- Jeandré, 2003-06-25t23:04z
- Sure! Wikipedia is often too U.S.-centric. It'd be good to have this info. -- Wapcaplet 23:17 25 Jun 2003 (UTC)
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- I'm now thinking we should combine the episode list with the main article because the order mess is worth writing about.
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- ZA slot is Tuesdays 19:30+02:00 on SABC3. Premier might have been 2003-04-15, last on 2003-07-22. 2/10, 14, 1a, 1b, 11/13.
- What's the source of the pilot not been shown in South America? I don't know about other countries, but it was shown in Brazil, after all the regular episodes. Source? Me, I saw it. :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.51.41.4 (talk) 23:39, 30 January 2007 (UTC).
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- The links at Talk:Firefly (TV series)/Archive 1#Spanish tv. probably had it. Someone who can read Portuguese/Spanish could possibly find it using web.archive.org -- Jeandré, 2007-01-31t20:45z
[edit] naming
i think all the episodes should be called "Title (Firefly episode)"... -Xornok 20:12, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
- They actually shouldn't be, as that clashes with naming conventions. Yes, most other TV episodes are getting that treatment; however they're incorrect, but in a good portion of these cases, there's too much support for the unnecessary disambiguation methods and too many titles to correct so there's no room to get in and fix it. South Park and Doctor Who have it right, and the latter has TV related articles much more up to par.--Bacteria 17:35, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
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- FYI, we're currently discussing exactly this issue at Wikipedia_talk:Naming conventions (television). Wording on a new poll is being finalized now, and all interested editors are invited to participate. --Elonka 00:47, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Episode summaries
Ok, the episode summaries aren't suppost to be full out summaries of the episode. They are just suppost to reveal the base info of the ep without reveling the ending, in one, maybe two sentances. See List of South Park episodes for examples of what the summaries should look like. JQF 15:06, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- Spoilers are appropriate in an encyclopedia. The manual of style/guidline at Wikipedia:Spoiler warning says what is not acceptable is to "Deleting relevant, neutral and verifiable information about a narrative work from Wikipedia "because it's a spoiler" instead of properly applying spoiler templates." List of Buffy the Vampire Slayer episodes is being rewritten right now because someone wanted to make it a featured list and it's main problem is it doesn't have spoilers, see here. - Peregrinefisher 18:07, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- Well, the issue I have with the summaries was that they reveled the end of the episode, which I don't think readers want. Yes, some spoliers are needed inorder to properly summerize, but revealing the end goes to far in my opinion. If you look at the article I pointed out, List of South Park episodes, which is a featured article, you'll see that they don't reveal the ending. JQF 18:24, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- Some of the featured lists reveal the ending, some don't, see List of Stargate SG-1 episodes. I think the purpose of an encyclopedia should be to pack the maximum information into each paragraph. I also think Wikipedia is moving in this direction. I guess I won't force it on this Firefly list if its not ready. It just seems I should be able to look at the list and quickly see "River is smuggled onboard" or "the lone survivor turns into a reaver" without having to read the whole episode page. - Peregrinefisher 20:11, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- Well, the issue I have with the summaries was that they reveled the end of the episode, which I don't think readers want. Yes, some spoliers are needed inorder to properly summerize, but revealing the end goes to far in my opinion. If you look at the article I pointed out, List of South Park episodes, which is a featured article, you'll see that they don't reveal the ending. JQF 18:24, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Broadcast over Episodes
Should the Broadcast information be moved about the Episode list? It seems to me to be a better place for it, but I'm sure it would work. JQF 18:07, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
