Talk:List of Eastern Orthodox Christians

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Contents 1 Possible additions? 2 John Tavener 3 Rename? 4 Sirtis et alia 5 Neat to see new interest 6 Categories 7 Tesla 8 Sources 9 Athletes

[edit] Possible additions?

Pavlov - my understanding is that he was Orthodox and tried to protect other Christians during the Bolshevik regime.

Tchaikovsky

Jim Londos (famous Greek-American professional westler of the early 20th century) I can personally vouch for his Orthodoxy, he baptized someone at my church.

Konstantin Pobyedanostsev

Pyros Dimas (olympic weighlifter)

Nikos Gallis (Greek basketball player)

John Stamos?

Pete Sampras?

Mark Philippousis??

Feel free to add names, I'll look into Pavlov though.--T. Anthony 13:48, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Pete Sampras attended Greek Orthodox church services every Sunday as a child. John Stamos is Protestant however. MK013 05:54, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] John Tavener

John Tavener publicly came out as a Universalist some time ago, and no longer claims Orthodoxy as an influence on his music. I've been unable to determine if he's still officially a communicant in an Orthodox church, but I wonder if he still belongs in a list like this. TCC (talk) (contribs) 23:31, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I added some more names to give it much needed, I think, non-Russian content. Feel free to take off any due to inaccuracy. Also while I'm here I'll take on another concern. I think renaming the list "List of Eastern Orthodox Christians" is a good idea, but I'm not sure how to do that. Anyone know how please do so.--T. Anthony 01:21, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

He should probably still be listed here if he's still an official member of some Orthodox church regardless of his stated beliefs. I was kind of hoping someone else knew for sure.

I'll be moving the article soon, since you don't object. TCC (talk) (contribs) 01:25, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Rename?

"Eastern Orthodoxers" isn't really a natural construction in English, is it? I suggest renaming the article to List of Eastern Orthodox Christians, if it's really preferable to, say, Category:Eastern Orthodox Christians. TCC (talk) (contribs) 23:31, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sirtis et alia

I'm not entirely certain Marina Sirtis is Greek Orthodox, but her wedding and background apparently were according to sources. That's my own doubts, anyone have other doubts on the listed feel free to mention it.--T. Anthony 04:57, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Neat to see new interest

I think Tesla became atheist later in life, but I'm okay listing him. I think I'll put Tavener back, but with an explanation. Glad to see someone adding names, I worry I created too many lists. However the categories for Eastern Orthodox Christians, at present, are rather incomplete or are solely about religious leaders.(And sometimes various Russians, but there is Eastern Orthodox Christianity outside Russia)--T. Anthony 05:19, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Categories

I know some prefer categories to lists, but you can use this list to add some names to the Eastern Orthodox Christian category if you want. Granted if you have strong doubts on some of these names then you shouldn't do that, but I think in some cases there are references. (Or I'll add them if need be)--T. Anthony 09:56, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

I'm so glad that when a new person showed up they didn't put this on a list. I should probably start annotating many of these, but I've been doing that alot the past few days.--T. Anthony 07:53, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Tesla

This seems to come up enough I guess I'll just deal with it here.

I guess he can be kept in as he pops back up every time I remove him. Tesla's father was after all a Serbian Orthodox priest. Added to that the Tesla Society indicates that faith is strong in claiming him.[1] Finally his funeral was apparently Serbian Orthodox.

All that said here is my problem. There isn't much indication he had anything but a non-member respect for religion at all. In an interview in 1937 Tesla stated some of the following

• "While I am not a believer in the orthodox sense, I commend religion"
• "There is no conflict between the ideal of religion and the ideal of science, but science is opposed to theological dogmas because science is founded on fact."
• "In the course of ages, mechanisms of infinite complexity are developed, but what we call 'soul' or 'spirit,' is nothing more than the sum of the functionings of the body. When this functioning ceases, the 'soul' or the 'spirit' ceases likewise."

1937 interview

• "Religion: Interested in Buddhism and Christianity, but not an orthodox believer."Wisconsin university

It seems odd to count someone who disbelieves in the afterlife, small "o" orthodox religion, and theological dogma as an EOC. Still I guess he can fit as "identity."--T. Anthony 05:28, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Tesla is already on the page of List of famous children of Orthodox priests. Tell you what if you want the names on that to be here, regardless of their public beliefs in adulthood, I'll add the merger template to that page. Until then you need an actual source that Tesla was himself Eastern Orthodox.--T. Anthony 02:12, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sources

Is there any good source that says Jennifer Aniston is Greek Orthodox? I'm pretty sure she isn't Mad Jack O'Lantern 06:22, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

I think she might have been baptized in it as several sources say Telly Savalas was her godfather. One Source says of Jennifer Aniston, "There is a Greek Orthodox Church in LA. I have never heard of her faith or religion. I know she attended this church but only for a funeral of the late Telly Savals, who is Jennifer's Godfather." That's the extent of the connections I find between her and Greek Orthodoxy. I took Marina Sirtis off even though her connections were a good deal better as her upbringing and wedding were Greek Orthodox. However she indicated she only had a Greek Orthodox wedding because her husband couldn't get remarried in his church, Catholic I'm guessing, and I think added she hadn't been to church in years. Anyway I think it was a good call, but Aniston might fit a "Eastern Orthodox background" segment.--T. Anthony 02:24, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

The statement just says she went to Savalas' funeral. So, if she went to a funeral of someone Catholic it would make her Catholic? I'll remove the name until someone cites a source that she is Greek Orthodox. Mad Jack 17:14, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

And the article says her father was Greek and that Savalas was her godfather. That she's at least nominally Orthodox is a reasonable inference. TCC (talk) (contribs) 06:40, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Athletes

To the person who brought up this issue, most of these football players cross themselves before games so it is evident which are Orthodox (for example, Andriy Shevchenko) MK013 05:53, 22 July 2006 (UTC)