Talk:List of Degrassi: The Next Generation episodes

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did a five year old write the summaries for the current season? jesus christ, learn how to spell! someone edit this before i lose brain cells


No, it's vandalism and wasn't in the show I'm editing and removing. SirGrant 17:11, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Some of today's edits sound like a joke. Can someone confirm any of it was really on the show? Art LaPella 06:09, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Cleanup!

This page needs desperate cleanup! The lists are all screwed up, there are countless dead links and typing errors, and that "plot rule" device should be removed at once imho, because I don't see how this would add to the article. Please, someone do something about this! Mobylon 00:46, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I am responsible for the formatting for the lists however, somebody else has used it and thus, it has resulted in messed up table formatting. I will try to change and fix the formatting wherever needed. The Summaries really need work but the dead links are there because I plan on creating individual pages for each episode. I've only done it for Season One so far but eventually, it'll be created for every episode and thus be automatically linked from the list page.
It is my opinion that the plot formula adds significantly to summarizing information in the article. It provides specific information partaining to each episode in question while identifying the main plots. It was inspired by the Lost page: (List_of_Lost_episodes) where they attempt to outline the centric character of an episode for informative purposes. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Xallium (talk • contribs) 01:33, 4 February 2007 (UTC).
Ok. The formatting for Season 4 needs to be fixed and some Air Dates, Episode Numbers, and Titular Songs need to be added. I will gladly add all of these but not until the formatting dispute is resolved.

[edit] Edits

I took off four artists from the "Episode name is based off the song by" part because they were not 80s references:

1. Celine Dion from "The Power of Love" because her cover of Jennifer Rush's song was made in 1995.

2. Destiny's Child from Mini "Hey Ladies" because they weren't even a group in the 80s

3. Alanis Morissette from "King of Pain" and replaced it with The Police becuase she covered it in her 1998 MTV Unplugged

4. Whitesnake from "Queen of Hearts" because their song with that title was released in the late 70's.

Actually, Huey Lewis & The News had a hit in the 80's with a song called "The Power of Love," The Beastie Boys had a minor hit with a song called "Hey Ladies" in 1989 and Juice Newton had a hit song called "Queen of Hearts" in the early 1980's. So, whomever listed Celine Dion, Destiny's Child and Whitesnake songs as the inspiration for Degrassi titles was probably mistaken. -- Gerkinstock 03:12, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
Ok if someone has better references based off 80's songs then I say go ahead and replace them, but keep in mind I think some songs really are based off 90's songs so that not all episodes HAVE to be 80's references SirGrant 18:11, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Does anyone know where the episode title "Going Down The Road" come from????

I checked in both Doc Watson and The Greateful Dead's bios and none of them released a saong named that in the 80's. This other group The Barra MacNeils released a song named exactly that, but in the 90's. Then I read that there's Canadian movie named that, but it was released in the 70's. If anyone knows anything about this episode, please help.

  • Who said everything was named after an 80's song? The introduction says exactly that. Royboycrashfan 20:24, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Agreed MOST songs do come from the 80's but not all. But since the majority do I think it's semi safe to assume that if there are two groups that did it, one in the 80's and one in the 90's or even 2000 it's safer to assume the episode is referencing the 80's song. SirGrant 21:52, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Behind the Scenes show & Degrassi Unscripted

Should these be included here or not? -- Gerkinstock 01:42, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

  • Degrassi Unscripted: Turn it into an article and include information about the specific episodes.
  • Behind the Scenes: Unencyclopedic. WP:NOT. Royboycrashfan 20:17, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Episode Descriptions

To all editors this was removed from the introductions but should still be kept in mind. "NOTE: This page has been deleted once before due to copyrighted information being posted directly from another site. If you add episode details, please do not copy from any other site, or risk losing your work. Contents" SirGrant 22:32, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Edit: April 19, 2006 -- I edited Season 1's episode description for "Jagged Little Pill." The title of the episode is based upon the album name by Alanis Morissette; it is not a song title. This should be changed in the introduction as well. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.60.36.204 (talk • contribs).

  • Done. Also, for future reference, you may also edit pages on here. You don't need to ask someone else to edit something for you (unless it's a protected page). Royboycrashfan 18:57, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Adding links to songs

I know it may sound like too much work or irrelevant, but do you guys think we should link the titles of the episodes to the articles of the songs they were named after (when possible, of course)? That way, anyone who wishes to learn more about these songs and maybe try to figure out why they were chosen for the episode's title will not have to look through all of Wikipedia for them. Tell me if you think that's appropriate because I'm kind of new at this and don't know if that may be unencyclopedic. --Andresg770 15:23, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Picture Use

Can we use the pictures on here on other pages, like on actor or character articles? I am not sure about the copyright... Brainboy109 Oct 4th, 2006 11:47 am (UTC)

I don't see why not...--CyberGhostface 20:34, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Well I just don't understand the copyright, like it says those photos are used to promote the show, so putting it in actor's article wouldn't be promoting the show...I don't really know anything about the rules on photo use --Brainboy109 Oct 5th 2006 16:00 (UTC)

Actually, come to the think of it, I think fair use images CAN'T be used altogether like this. However, they're normally okay for indivial episodes' articles. If the episodes ever get their own articles, then we should probably move all the pics there instead. -→Buchanan-Hermit™/?! 01:29, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Numerous episode guides have employed photos in similar manners.--CyberGhostface 01:48, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
True, but they have been removed en masse in these situations as well due to fair use violations. Fair use calls for limited use of such images. -→Buchanan-Hermit™/?! 07:22, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Here Comes Your Man

According to the iTunes Music Store and The N's website (http://www.the-n.com/ntv/shows/episodes.php?id=67), the sixth season premiere was not two parts. It has been mistaken for this because it was as long as two episodes. Because of this, one screenshot needs to go; and the summarries need to be merged. I haven't made the edit myself because I didn't upload the separate screenshots, and there should be consensus on which will stay. —Cliff smith 02:19, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Don't You Want Me

The 6th season finale has also been set-up as the series finale. In other words, there are two different versions/endings to that episode (s). According to Cassie Steele, Christina Schmidt, Mastrionni and Stacy Mystsyn all return as well as 3 Degrassi: TOS alumni mostly likely Yick, Stephanie and BLT.

[edit] Season Six Episode Descriptions

About half of them appear to be fake since they detail what would be important plot developments and are written in poor grammar. mochi 12:31, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I went back through the history, and it appears that the anon user's IP has been logged several times as spamming and "vandalizing" other wiki entires. I'm not sure what to do about this, or how to go about reverting the edits, so I'll leave it to someone more capable. mochi 12:41, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Moichi, shut up. They are not fake. Just compare them to the ones for season 6 at TV.COM. JT does in fact die.74.195.3.11 23:22, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

TV.com isn't an official source. It has had blatantly false information in the past, like one time with an episode titled "JT and Manny in love". As such, I'm going to remove it until A.) it airs in Canada (if it has already, I apologize) or B.) a notable source has it.--CyberGhostface 02:45, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
CTV is behind The N this season because the season start was delayed until November 28th. They are however airing two episodes a week and will be caught up with The N the week of December 18th. More to the point of this discussion, TV.com summaries can be edited by anyone with an account (which is no harder to get than a Wikipedia account). Until someone comes up with incontrovertible proof, I think we should get rid of the summaries in question.JimboMaloi 23:31, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
I tried removing them before but some anon user reverted my edits. Could you remove them again?--CyberGhostface 00:06, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Done. JimboMaloi 04:02, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Bullshit. TV.com is always reliable.18:02, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

First off, I would recommend WP:CIV, but it looks like several people already have. Also I regret to inform you that you are completely wrong. More importantly, anyone who meets the level 2 requirement on TV.com can alter episode summaries, and they are examined under far less scrutiny than articles on Wikipedia. Please stop your vulgarities. JimboMaloi 19:36, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

It's already been revealed in a promotion for season six on The N that "somebody" will die in the season. I think we should stop the descriptions at "Rock this Town", since the episodes "What's it Feel Like to be a Ghost?" parts 1 and 2 seem to have their storylines pretty summed up in the promos running right now. In other words, cut edit-able, online, "reliable" sources out altogether and go with what is released from the network showing the episodes in America. 67.72.98.94 06:55, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

The episode descriptions for the upcoming season 6 episodes have been added again. First off all, shouldn't these descriptions be added after the episode airs? As I don't live in the US or Canada, I'm not familiar with all the airdates, but I'm almost certain that several episodes have not yet aired. Secondly, most descriptions are different from the teaser descriptions from several other internet "resources", and even then, since the episodes have not aired yet, it's not certain that the descriptions actually match the episode content. In my opinion, they should be removed until the episode airs. Mobylon 23:09, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Need individual pages

Ok... like all the other television series with extensive content, we should make a seperate page for each episode giving a summary, extended overview, cast/crew details, and trivia. I'll be glad to write to the extended overview for each episode however, we must first actually make these pages and I can only do it when I have free time. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.229.220.235 (talk) 03:25, 15 January 2007 (UTC).

Actually, that might not be a good idea. WP:EPISODE has more. A lot of episode articles are being deleted or merged since they're nothing more than plot summaries, rather than having some kind of impact on real life. -- Ned Scott 00:58, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps make a page for each season instead. Like what was done with The Simpsons. Click to see what I mean. Cliff smith 01:51, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
That would be better than episode articles, in my opinion. -- Ned Scott 03:35, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, I think the best course of action would be to make this LOE like that of The Simpsons LOE, but shift all of the specific info—plot formula, screenshots, episode summaries, titular song, etc—to each respective season page. The only major addition I could think of would be a section for Seasons, which is exemplified by the Featured List LOEs for The Simpsons and The Sopranos. Cliff smith 06:37, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] How Soon is Now? and Tears Are Not Enough episode descriptions

These two episodes have the same description, could someone please check this. It doesn't seem right to me. Tinkstar1985 01:03, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Season 4: 2004-2005

This section is all out of whack, I got no idea how to fix it. Can someone please fix the formatting. Also, looking back through the page history I see that it this section hasn't followed the format used for previous seasons - this should also be corrected. Moreover, can people please stop making edits that sound like advetisements for episodes. Simply outline the story line, do not make it cryptic. "Craig won battle of the bands and something much better" - give me a break, say what you mean, THIS IS NOT A TV GUIDE! Please use the correct encyclopaedic style. Tinkstar1985 12:07, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Overhaul

I'm hoping by starting this page anew it can leave it's old ways and become a good LOE. The previous version used several different tables was a mes, had broken code, etc, hopefully now with season 1 completed (mostly) as an example others will proceed to do the following for other seasons. I personally don't watch this show so can't do very much to help. Also things like the math equations show really be avoided unless cited. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 00:03, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I've reverted it back to the old version as it had more information which should be fixed itself instead of entirely removed. I will fix the entire table formatting for all Seasons but will not touch its contents. As for the Episode Naming section, I think that should be moved to Degrassi: The Next Generation Main Paige. The plot formulas should be kept (see above) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Xallium (talk • contribs) 01:36, 4 February 2007 (UTC).
That's fine. I don't think that plot formula thing is going to pass WP:OR, though, so it should go, unless you have a reference that spells out who is A, B, C or whatever. It seems like the titular song would be better on the episode pages since not every episode has one. I also prefer the writer there too, but that's up to you. What I do recommend is that you continue converting this page over to using Template:Episode list. It's way cleaner if someone comes along and wants to edit, without learning a super difficult table. - Peregrine Fisher 01:47, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Well the table right now... (or before.. kinda confusing now) was styled to include summarizing information applicable to most if not all of the episodes. The template for the Degrassi Episode pages has been created to include the Titular Song field and most episodes titles are based off songs (with the exception of most from Season One). The information for the artists w

as already there prior to when I changed the formatting so I just decide to transplant it.

The addition of the Episode formula was not intended to act as original research to present and advance personal theories but purely for defining, identifing, and summarizing episode information. I'm not sure what the the Template:Episode list but the page shouldn't be that entirely difficult to edit as each constituent per column and row are properly sectioned off, though I do agree it can be a bit clustered and hard to edit at times —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Xallium (talk • contribs) 02:07, 4 February 2007 (UTC).
The episode formula is good info, but belongs with each episode, not the collective list of episodes. Checking out some featured list LOEs would be a good idea to see what this one should look like. Like List of The Sopranos episodes. Cliff smith 05:14, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Also, there's a couple other things that should be addressed in this overhaul.
First, as mentioned above, the LOE should probably just be converted to Template:Episode list, since this is exactly what the template was meant for.
Secondly, some episodes are being listed here as two-part episodes when they're really just one that was an hour long. Here they all are:
  • "Shout"
  • "Holiday"
  • "Ghost in the Machine"
  • Note that "Holiday, Part 2" is on this list currently in season 4, but isn't at the official episode guide at The N.com
  • "Venus"
  • "The Lexicon of Love"
  • "Here Comes Your Man" (also see my previous note of this above, from November last year)
Episode numbers and the numbers by season should be corrected accordingly. To verify this, go here. Cliff smith 06:33, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
I think that keeping the formula on the table successfully summarizes information. But it perhaps may not be suitable for the LOE page. Maybe on a new page (for instance if we end up making separate season pages).
I've created separate pages (erm... or plan to create) to avoid AfD criteria. I think it's only listed as an hour long special as they episodes follow after one another. The episodes in question have different credits for each part, respectively. If it needs to be changed, it can be easily done with now fallout as the episode pages have not been created yet...
The formulas are good information, without question, but they really do belong with each season. They just don't belong on the LOE.
Cliff smith 22:14, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Agreed. So I guess our number one priority for the episode page should be creating an actual list and moving the tables we have now to individual season pages.
What do we do about the Webisodes? Where do they fit in.
Well, I'm not 100% on whether or not the Minis are actual episodes. They probably aren't, so they'd go with their respective season article. As for the current tables, they'd go to their respective season articles, yes. This LOE would switch to the Episode list Template and wouldn't use screenshots—those would also go to the season article. This LOE could have one sentence per part of the plot formula. Each part of the formula would be described in more detail in the season article. I recently made an LOE that uses the template and has everything except the short summaries, so you can check it out to see what I mean. It's the List of Everwood episodes. Cliff smith 04:58, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Ok. So I redid the LOE page and replaced it with a really retarded rough template page which also links to each of the Season pages. I kept the Minis at the bottom as they occur outside continuity and won't fit in on one of the Season page and it would just be pathetic if they got their own page. Or something —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Xallium (talk • contribs) 05:09, 5 February 2007 (UTC).
That's fine. Once all the info is into those tables, it can be converted to Template:Episode list, or whenever. The seasons section looks good. Maybe the Minis should just have their own article. Cliff smith 05:50, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
I don't get what you mean by converting it to the template.. =/ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Xallium (talk • contribs) 12:09, 5 February 2007 (UTC).
Oh, well, I meant the Template:Episode list. But the current tables would probably work. Good job. Cliff smith 19:09, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Oh ok. Thanks btw. Oh and I just wanted to see how indented our responses could get... lol
Lol. Thanks to you also, for working so dilligently to fix this LOE. Cliff smith 03:09, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Episode Summaries

OK. The episode summaries need a major revision. Some have bad grammar, some are too long, and some improperly illustrate plot details (it should basically inform about the plot details which occur [per story arc]). As WikiProject:Degrassi is planning to create articles for each episode, the summaries should only be a synopsis of events which occur in the episode and be no longer than three lines. If the previous summary was useful, it should be moved to the new episode page once created.

[edit] Original Airdates

It's unnescessary to create an additional original airdate column. It creates redundancies and you don't need to add all original airdates for each and every country. Perhaps for each separate article page would be more suitable but not for the list.

Oh and the formatting gets screwed up.

The airdates are something that is existential to any LOE. If any column should be moved to another article (like the season articles) it should be the Titular Song column, since this is something that is unique to this particular TV series. Cliff smith 22:17, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
I know that the airdates are needed. I just don't think you need to like add each and every one for like every country.
Oh, yeah, I totally agree. Cliff smith 04:52, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
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