Talk:List of British Jewish entertainers

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[edit] Orlando Bloom

I think we need to remove Orlando Bloom. His surname comes from his stepfather, he has no Jewish ancestry, and has never practiced Judaism (he's currently a Buddhist). See his Wiki article for more details. Indisciplined 20:46, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

How do we know that he has no Jewish ancestry? I've seen nothing on his (biological) father's ancestry at all. In any case, the sourced cited, The Jewish Chronicle, refers to him as Jewish, which passes the criteria at the top of Talk:List of British Jews Mad Jack 05:47, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

How old is the Jewish Chroinicle source quoted? It may now be out of date considering the recent revelations about Bloom's parentage. Indisciplined 18:16, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, the citation says September 15, 2006 - fairly recent. Mad Jack 18:22, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

It's an interesting point. I'm not sure that this source is factually correct given the information about Bloom's parentage that has now come into the public domain. If the definitions used for the list become this broad, it's in real danger of becoming meaningless. Do we have any other sources that could clear the issue up? Indisciplined 18:33, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Actually, the only criteria we have (and should have) is listed on the top of Talk:List of British Jews. Which is that we have a reliable source that explicitly says someone is Jewish (and British), as opposed to their father, mother, etc. Mad Jack 18:44, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Evan if the source quote might be factually incorrect? Sounds like a hostage to fortune. Indisciplined 18:47, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

But how do we know if it's factually incorrect? Besides, WP:V means verifiability, not truth, so I guess all of Wikipedia is technically a "hostage to fortune" in one sense. Mad Jack 19:22, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree with indisciplined. that source is assuming Bloom's of the same religion as his stepfather but we have no proof of that. even so "celebrity jews in the news" doesn't sound very reliable. we don't know what his biological father was. (Unsigned statement by User:Linestouch)

We do know that the Jewish Chronicle, one of the World's oldest national newspapers, regards him as Jewish. Nobody has ever produced a source that says he isn't Jewish, so it violates WP:NOR to speculate about what religion his father is.--20.138.246.89 15:20, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

there is doubt being expressed if this be true then maybe we can find some other place supporting this no??? i know what the jewish chronicle is. the same article also mentions kate bosworth and uma thurman in the article as orlando bloom. are they jewish now too??? this is possibly wrong information so i am removing it until it is known for certain. lines touch (how do you sign?)