Talk:List of Archbishops of Canterbury

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[edit] WP:FLC

This is a good list - is there anything that needs to be done before it is nominated at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates? -- ALoan (Talk) 15:28, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Done it now :) -- ALoan (Talk) 10:06, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
It's now made it to featured status! jguk 11:56, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ramsey vs Ramsay

How is the last name of Arthur Michael Ramsey spelled? After googling both versions it would seem that RAMSEY is correct based on the list of places using that spelling (leaving out the Wikipedia and mirrors entries) but there are severl sites that have RAMSAY. CambridgeBayWeather 07:57, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Well, the official website thinks it is "Arthur Michael Ramsey". -- ALoan (Talk) 09:45, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
Duh! That'll teach me to play late at night when I should be sleeeping. CambridgeBayWeather 13:16, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] "Anglican" Terminology & Reformation

"Anglican" has rightly become a less-favored catch-all with no clear descriptive value. E.g., it lumps Laud w/ Grindal and Parker, etc., whereas Cranmer is "Roman Catholic." "Anglican" clearly cannot refer to even a broad consensus on theology and church policy. Why isn't there a break or special table for the period after Henry VIII's break with Rome, then the Marian era, and then everything after? Warham, Cranmer and Pole present the main problematic area. Might also mention when England was under interdict in the middle ages--when was that---under King John? Dan Knauss 00:10, 27 October 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Current break confusing

I don't think the division into "Roman Catholic" and then "Anglican" archbishops is useful. Prior to the great schism in about 1050 "Roman Catholicism" didn't exist anyway per sae and between 1533 and 1570 it is misleading and includes prominent protestants as Roman Catholic. It is also not NPOV, since from an Anglican perspective prior to the schism they were still Anglican archbishops, just ones which happened to be in communion with Rome. When Perhaps "Pre-Schism" Archbishops is a better term? --BozMo talk 11:20, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

"Catholic" and "Protestant" seems to get the job done. - Nunh-huh 22:25, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Clumsy Infobox

Not every list is a potential Template for an Infobox. Look how clumsy a complete list of archbishops of Canterbury becomes when it is pointlessly repeated on each individual's page. A 'See also: List of Archbishops of Canterbury would serve just the same purpose. --Wetman 19:45, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

I agree. When this template was added, the succession box was removed, which leaves the strange situation where there can be boxes for all other offices such as Archbishop of York, but nothing for Canterbury. My preference would be to remove this infobox and replace with a standard succession box. JRawle (Talk) 21:26, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Retired

Comment moved from article: Archbishop Michael Ramsey passed away several years ago. The Rev. Canon Rick E Hatfield, Nashotah House Episcopal Theological Seminary, Class of 1980 canonrick (talk) 2006-06-01 01:53:01

Yes. Archbishop Cosmo Lang is also deceased. I don't think this list notes deaths unless the archbishop died in office. Do you think it should? --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 13:11, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Until Randall Thomas Davidson, they always stayed in office until they died. The list isn't intended to give dates they died, it doesn't gives dates of birth either, it's just that for most of the archbishops the former is the same as the date they left office. So we can see how people might be confused. "Retired" could be taken as meaning "he is now retired", whereas it actually means "left office through retirement". Perhaps it wouldn't hurt to make it: "Translated from York; retired; died 1988" JRawle (Talk) 14:00, 11 September 2006 (UTC)