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[edit] Userbox

Lisa If anyone wants this user, they'll be in their room...
What kind of userbox is that?




[edit] Lisa's saxamaphone (saxophone)

It says in the article that she plays a Baritone Sax - based on the sound. I believe she has only ever played the Tenor Sax and once or possibly twice the Alto sax. I think this should be based on shape not on 'sound'. Tanru 08:09, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Baritone sax is an awful big instrument for a girl her age and size as the article mentions. I don't recall them saying what kind of sax she played so baritone seems like an odd supposition unless this is official in the show. Now if she does play baritone she might be the most famous baritone player currently out there. I mean there are real baritone saxophonists who are famous in jazz, but most of the jazz saxophonists who are known to the public are alto or occasionally tenor.--T. Anthony 08:27, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
She's a fictional character and doesn't have to abide with reality. I doubt the creators payed exceptional attention to the type of saxophone she played.--|K.Z|Z.K| Do not vandalize... 04:46, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lisa's email address

I have sent mail to that address it uses invalid characters.

  • That's mentioned in the article. They purposefully used invalid characters.

[edit] Lisa's IQ

From the episode with Frank Grimes, wasn't it revealed Lisa's IQ is 156? (Although, I do remember a separate 159 IQ reference) Q0 09:38, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)

  • Yeah, it's mentioned in Smart and Smarter from season 15 that it's 159.
  • [1] mentions that Lisa's IQ was stated to be 156 in the episode "Homer's Enemy". So Lisa's IQ appears to be two different scores in two different episodes.
    • I guess that's just a goof on the writers' part, the same way Homer's age is both 36 and 39 in different episodes. -- Kaizersoze 02:00, Dec 22, 2004 (UTC)
      • Actually it was stated on a commentary they intentionally raised Homer's age as they thoght 36 was way too young for his physical apperance.
        • I think it's possible for someone's I.Q. to change 3 points. In a span of one year, mine went up from 129 to 136.
um... IQ never goes up... it actually gets lower as you get older... and as far as Lisa's IQ goes, anyone that watches the show should know better than expect any number for anything to stay the same from one episode to another... - Adolphus79 21:59, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Wrong, mate. You are imprecise in your assessment re: IQ: it doesn't get "lower" (theoretically), it norms to a more standardized grade. As I'm certain one with your level of expertise knows, there are variables that produce controversy within the validity of IQ (Gaussian distribution; Stephen Gould's beliefs, etc...), so its difficult for even trained professionals to produce a clear assessment of intelligence. And as far as your "anyone who watches the show" statement re: numbers, please note that Frink's and Comic Book Guy's IQ have remained constant (199 (the "198...197..." was there for comedic effect...)and 170, respectively.) Thanks for the note, though.... --206.40.119.252 10:05, 21 July 2006 (UTC) Aaron 7.21.2006

[edit] Middle Name?

Middle name of Marie.. Source??

  • In Lisa's Wedding, the wedding invitations indicate her name as "Lisa Marie"
  • It is also confirmed that her initials are LMS in The Monkey Suit... - Adolphus79 09:58, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
  • The Simpsons trivia game uses her middle name as a sample question on the box, giving the answer as "Marie."

[edit] Simpson Gene issue

The old version of this article, concerning the simpsons gene, is incorrect. It is revealed that the gene is located in the Y chromosome in one episode; Lisa does not have one, thus she cannot have the gene. I have added a link to the Y chromosome article.

Interestingly, very few disorders are caused by defects on the Y chromosome as it has very few genes. Most are linked to the X chromosome. Women are usually protected from suffering them by having two copies of this (one of them normal). Its hard being a male:D--ChrisJMoor 00:04, 26 May 2005 (UTC)It's especially hard being a male that likes other males and dresses!

[edit] U.S. Character

She is a character in The Simpsons, one of the TV shows made in the U.S. --ZachKudrna18@yahoo.com

  • Um, duh. tregoweth 03:03, 16 December 2005 (UTC) E-mail MATT GEROENING AT damnyouasholes@yahoo.com

[edit] Intro length

I think the intro, before the contents, on this article is way too long, being more than half the article. Could this be shortened to give a brief description, just like with Bart?

[edit] Lisa's braces

how come noone ever mentions lisa has braces? an entire episode revolves around it!(last exit to springfield)

Very few of the per-episode developments ever show up in canon. Most (or at least many) of the storylines that would change the dynamics or add info to the show ongoingly are just dropped after the episode in question.--Anchoress 13:05, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
But actually, now that I think of it she got those invisible Calvin Klein braces, so maybe they're just invisibly doing their thing.--Anchoress 13:09, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject: Simpsons

OK... Anyone interested in helping cleanup the Simpsons information, join the WikiProject... if we can all work together, instead of different editors working on different pages, we can get all the Simpsons information on all of Wikipedia organized... - Adolphus79 10:08, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Smoking

I don't know that it's entirely accurate to say that Lisa tried smoking with older girls in the 'bad girls' bathroom'... to my recollection, when they gave her a cigarette, she tucked it behind her ear and said she'd smoke it in class. Her hesitation to take the cig and reluctance to smoke it with the other girls right then suggested that she didn't intend to smoke it at all. Although it's impossible to prove a negative (that she didn't smoke it), I don't think she's ever been depicted actually smoking.--Anchoress 13:03, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, in the episode where Moe's bar was closed and Homer re-fashioned his own home, he shoved a cig into Lisa's mouth and also lit it. Lisa doesn't look very happy. I'm not sure whether this already counts as smoking. -- Prorokini 17:41, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Massive cleanup of Lisa's profile

Dear lord.... I didn't realize how much of a beating poor Lisa's wiki's taken these past couple of months. I'm going to personally concentrate cleaning up...expanding...and at the same time condensing this page as best as I can within the next few days (I'm quite busy at the moment so I have to do it little by little).

Here's some glaring things I want to take care of:

-Proper condensing of information among the sections. Lisa's vegetarianism gets a whole section but its less than two lines long? Meanwhile...that giganormous section over her religion...I'm going to look it over and try very hard to keep as much of the relevant...juicy info as I can. But so far it looks needlessly long...I'm thinking Lisa's "belief's" can all be properly shortened and put into on category.

-Her Profile isn't nearly as descriptive as it could or should be.

-Her acomplishments list has got to be shortened. She does a lot of things...but its not necessary to list absolutely everything. Maybe her most notable actions...and then a blurb about how she does many other things

-Now I like to keep interesting information if I can help it...but there's some stuff on this wiki that not even I can vouch the validity of.

-Lots of grammar, cleaning up of red links, splitting etc.

-Add some additional info here and there to flesh things out if its not too long.

I re-added the Future catagory. I have no idea why this was removed...I had to go really far back to retrieve it. Sounds like zealous, unflattering wiki-cleaning...but regardless its back. I'll clean that up to. I'll maybe add an additional screen shot or two in the end if everything looks nice. I'm basically going to rewrite this whole thing...because this wiki really needs it.--Kiyosuki 00:04, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Whew, Lisa's a complicated character....this'll take longer than I thought. Heh, give me a bit longer.--Kiyosuki 09:49, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] shes 9

she has had both her 8th and 9th b-days in the show

  • Lisa has had several birthdays, but after her eighth they stopped counting.

[edit] Language

I'm not sure what "non-canon" means, but the "swedish" Lisa is supposed to use in "Treehouse of Horror XIV" makes no sense at all and can never be used as a proof for her fluently in swedish.

  • Non-canon means that it isn't considered as really having happened. There's also the fact that she was reading from a script in the Swedish film, and that the scene was deleted.

it was not swedish, i speak swedish, in that halloween episode it did not sound like swedish, belive me swedish sound much more like english than you think.

[edit] Ambidextrous?

Wearing a watch on the hand you write with is not proof of cross-dominance. Is there any specific time they mention her ambidexterity? --Onorem 18:09, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Well...I asked 2 months ago and there's been no response. I'm going to take the ambidextrous comment out of the trivia section for now. Feel free to add it back in if there's evidence to support it. --Onorem 11:26, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lisa is plump?

Where exactly is it said that Lisa is "exceptionally plump?" The episode where she thinks she has a weight problem? I thought the point of that one was to illustrate the problem of young girls who think they are obese and have weight problems, when in fact they do not. I can't think of any example of where Lisa has been called "plump."

There is the episode with Alison i think her name was, (played by that actress from Friends), where she told Lisa she could "Lose five pounds". But I doubt that's important. Guitarhero91 00:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] scary.

lisa get a+ in evry school parts, plays an instrument (possibly more) can speak many langues and seems to even smarter than martin (his iq is 216) and more mature than any adults seen in the show, all that in just one little pre-pubertal girl is scary, in fact i like lisa least of all main characters in the simpsons because her completly non possibly skills and behavior. If she had any kind weekness i would like her.

Ok mate, several things wrong with your argument.
  1. Did you not see "Lisa on Ice"? She was failing gym, and sucked at every sport she did, apart from Ice Hockey.
  2. In "Kamp Krusty", she got a B in conduct.
  3. She is smarter than Martin.
  4. Where did you see Martin's IQ? Because I doubt its 216.
  5. If it is then you've defeated yourself because in "Homer's Enemy" her IQ is apparent 156.
  6. I always thought that Professot Frink was the smartest character, as his IQ IS 197.
  7. She's intelligent!
  8. She's a child prodigy!
  9. She's meant to be more mature than most adults

And most importantly....

10. She is a FICTIONAL cartoon character. It doesn't have to make complete sence. By most standards Lisa is incredibly believeable. I mean does bats talking and bears wearing hats seem normal to you? Gran2 14:56, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

In addition to that, there's the aforementioned self-righteousness Lisa has, her antisocial tendencies, and her sometimes over-the-top rivalry with Bart. She has plenty of weaknesses, and intelligence is no reason to dislike someone, fictional or not. Also, this isn't a message board for the character, it's for her page. If you want to spill your hatred for a character, find a fan site where it's actually suitable. Raenbow

[edit] Eating disorder

Does Lisa have an eating disorder? If not, remove her from that category because being vegetarian doesn't count. - Ndrly 04:22, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

She had one, but only for one episode.--AmitTheSomthing 22:16, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

but at the end she sayed it would take a long time to go away after homer was trying to get her to say its all ok before the end --Sailor cuteness

And besides, being a vegetarian does count.=P--AmitTheSomthing 20:55, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mensa

Yes I know she is a fictional character. But wikipedia must be truthful. Lisa is not really, in reality, in Mesna. She doesn't pay dues, never took an IQ test etc. Please discuss this before I edit that category (member of mensa) out. Thank you.Tstrobaugh 01:00, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I believe that you should remove her from that category, at least she should be portrayed as a "Fictional" member of Mensa as with other categories. An user 2 PM February 2007

God you people are nerds.

[edit] "I'm piss!"

Any backup for this claim?

[edit] Repetition

Doesn't this article repeat itself a bit? --Taraborn 21:07, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

This has to be one of the worst wiki pages ever. F- material. A total rewrite is neccessary. I wish the people who did the Jack Sparrow wiki page (which is just incredible) would come and fix this up.

[edit] Aspergers

Lisa does NOT have Aspergers. If she did, she would be perfectly happy with her lack of friends, not to mention she would have an all-consuming hobby, but she has frequently been unhappy about her lack of friends. Unless you've got official data on this with somebody from the show saying so, don't put it in. Harley Quinn hyenaholic 22:23, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

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