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[edit] Random featured portals

Hi. I leveraged (also known as 'stole') the past 'portal of the month' entries from this page to set up display of a random featured portal at Wikipedia:Featured content. However, only about half the existing featured portals have been showcased as 'portal of the month' (or week prior to that) so far. Should we wait until each featured portal is showcased before adding it to the list of those randomly displayed on that page, pick out images for the remaining featured portals and add them now, or do something else entirely for portals on the featured content page? We used to show the full list, but it was getting too big and not as 'neat' as the other featured sections. --CBD 18:54, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

I must be missing something, because I can't find any "display of a random featured portal." In any event, I wouldn't worry about what's been displayed here. If you still intend to do it, just pick the ones that work for your porposes there. Rfrisbietalk 03:37, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
The pink box, right next to the featured article ;) --Quiddity 04:48, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Oh, that pink box. My pointless comment still stands! ;-) Rfrisbietalk 11:29, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Is Portal:list considered as the portal for Category:Portals?

?--Hillgentleman 07:50, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

No. It isn't a portal, it's a list. Rfrisbietalk 12:10, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Then is there a portal for Category:Portals?Hillgentleman 02:18, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
No, just this list and the guidelines page, Wikipedia:Portal. From Category:Portals, "A portal is a focus page which highlights a particular subject, to complement the main article on that subject. Portals feature articles covering the portal's theme, and generally provide lists of related articles, and thus provide an alternative means to browse on Wikipedia." Because portals focus on a specific topic, it doesn't make sense to create a portal of all portal topics. Rfrisbietalk 02:39, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

I added a portals navigation footer that shows how this relates to other general portal pages. Rfrisbietalk 15:05, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Randomized featured portals here?

How about using the Wikipedia:Featured content/Portals page to randomly show featured portals here? I made a random featured portal test and it seems to work just fine. (In order to see it operate, you need to edit the test page, then "Show preview" to see the changes.) What do you think? Rfrisbietalk 16:23, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

  • And lose the monthly? How will we get new featured portals? How about placing a random feature on the Wikipedia:Featured portals page instead? It doesn't have any graphics at all.   The Transhumanist   18:26, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
    • As Transhumanist notes, I've been taking the content for the 'random featured portal' from the 'portal of the month' images here. Still, it wouldn't be a big deal to just come up with an image for each portal as it is elevated to featured status and add it to the random list. I'm fine with whatever. --CBD 19:12, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Replies to above comments: The box for displaying the "Monthly" isn't "lost," it's just updated every time the page is loaded. The "Portal of the Month" is just an arbitrary selection from the Featured portals list anyway. The process for selecting new featured portals isn't affected at all. The nomination process is described at Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates. The randomized displays for featured content appears at Wikipedia:Featured content. I already added all the remaining featured portals to Wikipedia:Featured content/Portals, the page that actually ramdomizes the display. Adding any new featured portals to this display page is a very simple process. I've already shown how straightforward linking them here would be. Rfrisbietalk 19:45, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

I think that would be a good idea, having it change once a month (which didn't even happen that often a lot of the time anyway) stops a lot of the FP's from actually be recognised. Randomising it would make much more sense. chris_huh 19:53, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
I like it. :) Support. --Quiddity 20:08, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
I made the randomize feature live to show more easily how it works. If you revert it, please give your reasons here. :-) Rfrisbietalk 21:13, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Looks very nice. The purge link right under the portal is a good addition as that's the only item on this page which changes. --CBD 10:55, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Sounds good to me.  The Transhumanist   16:06, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Going for featured status

Now that this page has failed the featured list nomination, I would like some feedback here. The nomination was disqualified for two basic reasons. First, it wasn't in article space/was in portal space. The consensus was that it then must not be a "list"/must be a "portal." Second, it didn't have a references section. The only suggested addition was to an atlas that confirmed world geography.

The "not a list" issue resulted in two recommendations, submit it at featured portals or create a new "other featured content" process. IMHO, neither suggestion should be pursued. A more plausible remedy to the disqualifications would be to move the page to List of portals and add a references section. Then the nomination could be resubmitted to the featured list process and get another hearing.

Is anyone else interested in pursuing featured list status for this page? Rfrisbietalk 20:25, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't think it really belongs in mainspace (as "list of portals"). If anything, it would make more sense in projectspace, as its format and intent is nigh identical to Wikipedia:Categorical index. But, I'm also not sure it needs any kind of featured status, primarily because it's already linked very prominently on the Main Page, and so doesn't really need any extra "promoting". Sorry :(
Ditto for the rest of the Contents pages, with the possible exception of List of academic disciplines which might be eligible as a featured list after a lot more work. The rest are too meta for me to think of them as articles. --Quiddity 20:45, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
I see no point in pursuing featured status. It's a directory, not content.--cj | talk 07:48, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, there's no point in spitting into the wind on this one. However, it is a mystery to me why "support" pages like this shouldn't be subject to the same types of quality considerations as "content" pages. Rfrisbietalk 23:09, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

I suppose because they verge on meta-data.--cj | talk 09:44, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] portals

shouldn't this have a link to cross wiki portals? or something to that end? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.31.197.38 (talk • contribs) .

[edit] If you have the time and know-how

If you have the time and know how to do it, please add to the list some of the countries that have their own pages but aren't on this one. Example: Nauru. 204.95.23.122 22:35, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Featured Portal stars

Anyone else feel the profusion of Featured Portal stars – though a good sign re quality! – detracts from the quality of this page...?  Perhaps featured portals might be indicated by (say) italic or bold-italic typeface...?  Regards, David Kernow (talk) 00:38, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree they're a bit much. I'll try bold-italics. Also, do you plan on doing anything about all the redirects and out-of-date page name references you created by moving the page? :-) Rfrisbietalk 02:26, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for trying the bold-italics. I think the page has now lost that slightly overloaded feel, but (yes, but...) I'd sympathize if someone said the featured items are now too underplayed... Maybe each section's featured portals could be featured along the lines of the following (hopefully without overloading the page again), i.e. using a single FA-star...?:

Arts and Culture


In lieu of other ideas, though, I guess I'd prefer underplayed to overloaded.

Re redirects, I thought there were a few too many to update (semi-)manually, but if something/manything's broken, please provide pointer/s and I'll attend to it/them. (Alternatively, I suppose I could try post a request here...)

Yours, David (talk) 13:40, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Considering the FP box in the upper right-hand corner has a link to the FP page, I think understatement here is just fine. I'd support the bot request too, but changing things like page & template titles probably has to be done manually. Rfrisbietalk 13:59, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Curiosity

Out of my own curiosity, where can I find info about how often the portal namespace is frequented? It seems to me that the namespace if not visited too often by too many people, as they are not publicized a lot. Anyway, I just wanted to know the popularity of the pages in this namespace. Thanks. → JARED (t)  02:27, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikicharts gives an approximate hit count for pages in the Portal namespace for the current and recent months. The major subject portals and the List of portals are linked from the main page, at the top, next to the "Welcome to Wikipedia".-gadfium 02:56, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Idea for Portals

The Dutch wikipedia has some cool photographs at the top of all their portal pages. Any chance the english version could have these. I don't have the expertise to do something this compicated. This adress gives an example of what I am talking about. http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portaal:Kunst_%26_Cultuur Gollum45 17:03, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

They seem to use images consisting of several photos joined together, with the portal name superimposed on top. It's certainly a possibility for this project – though it would require a consensus that changing the layout of the portal to improve it is a good idea, for some of the more popular portals. I'm not sure where best to find someone with the skills to do these images, though; I guess you could ask at Wikipedia:Requested pictures – Qxz 20:47, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why is it that the Portal:Nigeria isn't featured on the list?

I put it up there twice, but it was removed both times as well. It's already finished, so I'm putting it back up. --Toussaint 17:09, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

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