Talk:Lipstick lesbian

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[edit] Derogatory to Bisexual Women

It can also mean a person who isn't actually lesbian but pretends to be, for various reasons such as pornography. The term can also be applied to bisexual females.

HOW DEROGATRY TO BISEXUAL WOMEN-THE PRETEND TO BE LESBIANS!

I am not entirely sure of the purpose of this comment. Do you mean to say that because the sentance which mentions bisexuality follows a mention that the term can be used to refer to non-lesbians pretending to be lesbians, it implies that bisexuals are pretending to be lesbians? I'm not sure that is the case. I note that this comment was mentioned a while ago, so I am not entirely sure I will receive a response from you, but I would like to keep discourse on this matter open if it is in fact an issue for people. --Scandal 07:52, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

In any case, I don't see any necessary connection between the term "lipstick lesbian" and "bisexual female". If "lipstick lesbian" means (in part) "feminine woman attracted to other feminine women", well a bisexual woman need not be feminine, and a bisexual woman need not prefer feminine women either. Of course, a bisexual woman could be "lipstick", but then she's not a "lipstick" lesbian, she's a "lipstick" bisexual. But, I don't think that's a common term. Thus, "The term can also be applied to bisexual females" is not true. --SJK 12:17, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Contradiction

Currently (August 2006) this article is highly self-contradictory. In the opening sentence: "Lipstick lesbian is a slang term for a feminine homosexual woman who is attracted to another feminine woman, rather than a lesbian who is attracted to a more masculine woman"

Then later: "A lipstick lesbian is a homosexual (or bi-sexual) woman who exhibits feminine gender expression... ...The term applies to a multitude of women, regardless of their preferences in partners. A lipstick lesbian may be attracted to more 'butch' or masculine women or may be attracted to other femmes but is not solely attracted to feminine women."

Any sources or similar stating when the expression was first used, or how it is most widely used now, to help clear this up? --Justynb 16:38, 3 August 2006 (UTC)