User talk:Lholden

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Archives January 2006 - November 2006

Contents 1 Thanks 2 Hello 3 Your guides 4 Colin James article 5 Key 6 Asset 7 Image:John key.jpg 8 RCES 9 Well! 10 Wikipedia:WikiProject New Zealand/governments 11 New Zealand constitutional crisis, 1984 12 Orphaned fair use image (Image:Star times logo.gif) 13 Random Smiley Award 14 Party colors 15 New Zealand Bill of Rights Act 16 The undo button 17 Flags 18 Passenger train edits and so forth 19 DM, EM, ADK, and ADL class page titles 20 License tagging for Image:Johnkey.jpg

[edit] Thanks

For the nice job on the CYFS entry page. It needed a good clean up since it was being used as a recepticle for National Party press releases instead of a semi-informative entry.

[edit] Hello

Hey mate! I love your new tables I'm seeing round the Locomotives of New Zealand articles. They are a real nice contribution, and helps keep up on the current status on the stock.--GCFreak2 05:17, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your guides

I was just looking at some Year Tens Politics Social Studies work, and to be dismay, your site has been cited as a source! (Mainly your guides, but on kid had a bit about Republicanism) Brian | (Talk) 23:45, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Colin James article

Hi there. I just noticed that the article you started on Colin James (journalist) with this edit appears to be copied verbatim from the bottom of his official website. Unless you had permission for copying the text, this was a violation of copyright. You may use web pages as sources, but the text may not be copied exactly—in the future, can you please write articles in your own words?

I've removed the text, and unfortunately the article is now quite empty. If you have time to re-add important facts using your own words, that would be great. :) -- SCZenz 09:36, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Key

I was looking for one as well :). I would suggest that [1] be used, as its a 'offical' photo that appears to be for release, until a free one can be found Brian | (Talk) 03:35, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Asset

Interesting line in the Cabinet Manual "the Queen and Governor-General...may assent - or not - to Bills passed through the House" Brian | (Talk) 03:46, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:John key.jpg

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[edit] RCES

Thought you might be interested to know that the Royal Commission on the Electoral System's report is now available online at http://www.elections.org.nz/royal-commission-report-1986.html --Midnighttonight (rendezvous) 21:55, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Well!

Congratulations and good luck. Hope to see a republic down there in the south in the next decade, personally. ;) —Nightstallion (?) 15:19, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry, he will have a lot of competition :) Brian | (Talk) 22:29, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

We'll see, we'll see. :) —Nightstallion (?) 23:51, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Nightstallion. It'll probably reduce my Wiki-editing time though. --Lholden 22:24, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, there can't only be good sides. Good luck, once more! —Nightstallion (?) 17:42, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Good luck and well done. Any idea as to when you'll achieve your aim? --Midnighttonight (rendezvous) 01:32, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Midnight: in about 2 or 3 century's :) Brian | (Talk) 02:10, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, that depends on a number of factors... one of them being whether or not the ALP wins the next election in Aussie, and their leader commits to a new republic process (which I think is likely if a Rudd-led Labor govt lasts more than one term). More than likely the Aussie republicans would suceed second time around if the multiple plebicites model is used (as proposed by Howard in 1998, ironically), as they won't be as divided as they were back in '99. If Locke's Bill is drawn here we may see it go to a referendum, but I don't expect NZ Labour to push the issue so long as they're still a minority govt. The Nats won't as most of their liberal conservative (and republican leaning) MPs are silent on the issue, whereas reactionary conservatives like to make lots of noise about it. Beyond that... who knows. Bolger said in 94 he thought NZ would become a republic by 2000, and he was very wrong about that (sadly). --Lholden 02:17, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject New Zealand/governments

Hey Lewis, given that Wikipedia:WikiProject New Zealand/governments has been set up (well, kinda), would you still have copies of your guide to Prime Ministers that was on your website? I can't seem to find them at the moment. Cheers, --Midnighttonight (rendezvous) 02:22, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Okay, cool. Well, hope you can help on working on the governments. --Midnighttonight (rendezvous) 02:31, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

That looks like what is being aimed at. I am about to have a scavenge around to see what is being included in other country's articles. --Midnighttonight (rendezvous) 02:58, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Zealand constitutional crisis, 1984

I've put a snippet about this article up for DYK at Template_talk:Did_you_know#January_22. My wording is a bit clumsy; feel free to improve it.-gadfium 02:37, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:Star times logo.gif)

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[edit] Random Smiley Award

--TomasBat (Talk) 23:51, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Party colors

Hello, I noticed that you reverted my color changes to New Zealand general election, 2008. However, the colors are visually distracting and ugly (to be frank). Certainly you have been putting much more work into the article than I have, but I would appreciate if you consider other options... Perhaps color the party names their accurate colors, but soften up the rest of the table? Any other suggestions would be appreciated... sorry for any inconvenience, and thanks. Gracenotes^T § 03:25, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Zealand Bill of Rights Act

An anon has suggested that section 4 of the Act has a meaning exactly opposite to that given in the Wikipedia article. My lay reading of the Act suggests that they're right. Could you please respond to the issue at Talk:New Zealand Bill of Rights Act, and tidy the article as necessary.-gadfium 20:49, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The undo button

Please be careful using the undo button, and check the article page history afterwards. Undo only operates on a single edit, and a vandal often makes several consecutive edits to an article. An example is the vandalism of New Zealand around noon today. Because you are a well known and respected editor, any article for which you are the most recent editor will get less priority when I check my watchlist, and so any vandalism you have missed is less likely to be noticed by me. I would imagine many other editors, consciously or otherwise, use similar reasoning when checking articles for vandalism.-gadfium 01:19, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Flags

I suggest you take a break to read Wikipedia:Don't overuse flags. Hesperian 04:18, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Passenger train edits and so forth

It seems that anonymous user has taken a hint on the matter of whether or not the train names should be italicised. I agree, though - if they return to make the changes again, some sort of rule really should be invoked because this borders on thorough silliness. It adds nothing to the article, and in some cases was completely illogical.

For a little while, I've thought of more firmly establishing some style guidelines for NZR articles, and this incident has prompted to me to start a very rough draft for an NZR Manual of Style. I initially didn't think it was required by any means, especially as the only really contestable issue, that of how to properly write class names like DA and A^B, was essentially defined in the main Locomotives of NZ article. However, I'm now thinking some more broad guidelines would be helpful, especially as the group of NZR editors is expanding. As one of the well-established members of the group, what do you think? - Axver 08:52, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Righto. I'll aim to post a draft of the style guide later today for consideration and comments, or perhaps tomorrow if I get busy. I'll let you know when it's up. - Axver 00:29, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Alright, here's my rough draft: User:Axver/NZRMoS. It's not really complete, but it's late and I'm tired. Plus, it's pretty comprehensive as it is and addresses some current issues. I'd like to hear your thoughts. One part that could cause trouble is my stipulation that New Zealand has railway stations, not train stations (I certainly find the former to be far more natural terminology and it shows up with much greater regularity in text sources), as the vast majority of Auckland and Wellington station articles are currently named "Wherever Train Station". If we do adopt a policy of favouring "railway station", I feel sorry for whoever gets stuck with the task of fixing all the redirects. - Axver 15:07, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DM, EM, ADK, and ADL class page titles

Hey there,

You'd think that I would've noticed beforehand, but I just realised that these four classes are at "NZR xx class (Diesel/Electric Multiple Unit)" rather than simply "NZR xx class". I checked the history and saw that you created three of these pages and moved the fourth to its current name. I was going to move these four pages to "NZR xx class" to conform with standard practice, but as you're someone familiar with the standard practice, I thought I would ask first to see if there is actually a reason why these four classes have Diesel or Electric Multiple Unit in brackets in the title. I'll leave the pages alone if there's a good reason.

By the way, any thoughts on the proposed Manual of Style linked from my last comment? - Axver 10:36, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

• I don't see why ADK and ADL should have (Diesel Multiple Unit) in them as they are non standard NZR classifications and not likely to be used again. I can see why DM and EM though.--GCFreak2 05:41, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

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