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The assertion that Sappho ran a girls' finishing school was debunked in the Sappho article. This should be reworded to reflect current academic opinion (of which I am no expert). Kat.reinhart 03:35, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

The island`s Turkish name should also be mentioned in the beginning part. It is called as Midilli in Turkish.

Is there a non-chauvinist reason to support this request? Miskin 16:18, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

I think Turkish name should be added. Turkish era occupies a long portion of the history of this island. This is an encyclopedia for providing correct information to people. It’s correct that the island have once had a different official name. Its Turkish name is an indispensable part of the history of this island. It is the same reason why many place names in Turkey and in other places in the Mediterranean basin are also given in their Greek equivalents as the Hellenistic influence is the part of their history. Let’s don’t make this an arena for nationalistic arguments. Let’s give all the available information to the readers. I can’t see any reason why the Turkish name should be hidden.(Hakankaan 09:00, 27 May 2006 (UTC))

I don't see a reason why the Greek name is not mentioned in the head of any Turkish cities. Rebognise the Armenian and Pontic genocide, add the Greek name in the head of Instanbul, Izmir, Ankara, Trabzon and all the Greek cities whose original names were Greek (which is not the case with Lesbos), and I promise you to add the Turkish name in Athens. Regards. Miskin 16:53, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Interpretation 2 Took this out 3 more information. 4 Removed material cut/pasted from copyrighted site 5 she weren't no lesbian

[edit] Interpretation

Rather "victorian" was the interpretation, that only "platonic" love was object in the poems. While there are no sex scenes or direct references to sex understood nowadays, the invocation of Aphordite for example is not a suitable one for mere "platonic" love. Open to debate is, wether there literary "I" of the poems is female or male; there is not much saved of her poems, and from what is left, there is not a single participle or similar word, which gives clue to the sex of the speaker, which is not contested in modern science. So whereas someone would to be have undecicded just based on what is saved from the literary work, ancient reception already point out that she was a "lesbian" (in the modern sense of course), or would search for different interpretations as to "defend her". This is not to mean though she didnt have a husband. antiphon--84.175.78.139 12:37, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Took this out

Maybe its true but this is NOT the way to include it in the article

(This was at least partially a misinterpretation: the Victorians likely invented the idea of Sappho running a girls' finishing school, although Sappho may have had homosexual interests.)

[edit] more information.

my grammar are not so good to edit this page, plse help me put information for this page because my father was born in this island and i been there most of the time for summer holiday.

-Lesbos is related to the word lesibans, i dont know why it started this -Lesbos is the origin and main producer of all ouzo production and are supplied all over greece and other island. -Lesbos is believed to be the founder of the main production of extra virgin olive oil. in the past before ww2, lesbos was the main suppiler of olive oil to egypt

[edit] Removed material cut/pasted from copyrighted site

The geology section was wholesale cut/pasted from here, a copyrighted site, with no attribution or record of permission. I removed.

Here's the preserved text: == Geology of Lesvos Island == The [[geology]] of Lesvos Isl. has been described by [[Hecht]] ([[1971]], [[1974]], [[1975]]), [[Pe-Piper]] ([[1978]]), [[Katsikatsos]] et al. ([[1982]], [[1986]]). Hecht ([[1971]],[[1974]]) presented the [[geological map]] of the island (1: 50.000 [[scale (ratio)|scale]]). [[Lesvos]] [[island]] belongs to the [[Pelagon]]ian geotectonic [[zone]] (Mountrakis 1983). According to the published data and our survey, the geological structure of Lesvos island consists of the following rock-units: * An [[autochthonous]] unit of [[Permo-Triassic]] age, including [[schists]], [[quartzites]], metasandstones, [[phyllite]]s and [[intercalation]] of [[marbles]] and [[crystalline]] [[carbonates]]. These [[Rock (geology)|rock]]s are widely extended at the South-East part of the island, while in the North-West part they have a rather small extension. * An [[ophiolitic]] [[nape]], comprising basic and ultrabasic rocks and associated deep-sea fine-grained [[sediments]], as well as [[metamorphic]] rocks, [[amphibolites]] and [[amphibole]] [[schists]], [[metabasites]] and [[metasediments]], parts of the sole, overthrusting the metamorphic basement. All these [[alpidic]] and pre-alpidic rocks were covered later by post-[[alpine]] [[volcanic rock]]s and [[Neogene]] [[marine]] and [[lacustrine]] [[deposit]]s such as whitish [[marl]]s, marly [[limestone]], [[silts]] and [[sandstone]], as well as [[Tertiary]] deposits. The Neogene volcanic rocks, dominate the central and western part of the island. [[Lesvos]] is part of a belt of late [[Oligocene]] - middle [[Miocene]] calc-alcaline to [[shoshonitic]] [[volcanism]] of the northern and central [[Aegean Sea]] and western [[Anatolia]]. In the central part of the island there is a series of [[volcanic centre]]s, situated along a SW-NE direction. Several volcanic rock units can be distinguished. The oldest [[igneous]] rocks are [[andesites]] of the Lower [[Lava]] unit, dated by Borsi et. al. ([[1972]]) as 18.0 m.y. The [[Acid]] volcanics unit overlies the former, comprising the [[Sigri]] [[pyroclastics]], [[ignimbrite]] and [[ryolite]] [[domes]]. Sigri pyroclastics are connected with the development of the [[Petrified Forest of Lesvos]]. The [[Skoutaros]] Lava unit, consisting of [[basalt]] and andesite, overlies the acid volcanics. The [[volcanic activity]] was continuous into the [[Sikaminea]] unit of andesites, [[dacite]]s and [[rhyolitic]] [[pyroclastics]]. The younger volcanics, [[Eressos]] andesitic dykes, dated by Pe-Piper ([[1978]]) at 16.2 m.y., are widespread in western [[Lesvos]]. The last volcanic manifestation took place later with the local basaltic-shoshonitic lavas of eastern [[Lesvos]], in [[Mytilene]] area, around 11 m.y. ago (Pe-Piper, [[1978]]). The intense volcanic activity in the area resulted in a large number of active [[surface]] thermal [[manifestation]]s (hot springs, various geothermal fields, etc). [[Kinematic]] analysis carried out in [[Lesvos]] showed that several successive [[tectonic]] events took place during [[Cainozoic]]. The neotectonic stress pattern in the area was determined by [[quantitative method]]s, using tectonic striations and other kinematic indicators. Taking into account published results of regional neotectonic studies in the North [[Aegean]] (Mercier et al. [[1989]], [[Pavlides]] et al. [[1990]]) as well as local studies ([[Dotsica]] et al. [[1994]]) we conclude that [[Lesvos]] suffered at least three post-volcanic tectonic events since [[Miocene]]. The first one produced E-W to ENE-WSW trending [[sinistral]] strike-slip faults in Late [[Miocene]]. The second during [[Pliocene]], caused NW-SE trending normal faults and NNE-SSW trending sinistral strike-slip faults. Finally during [[Pleistocene]] the [[orientation]] of the strain [[ellipsoid]] changed and an extentional event in the N-S direction took place. It produced E-W trending normal faults and the reactivation of the pre-existing structures. This tectonic regime seems to be still active in the area ([[Papazachos]] et al. [[1990]]).

[edit] she weren't no lesbian

The word "lesbian" is derived from the Victorian misinterpretation of the poems of Sappho, whose poetry was taken to mean sexual love rather than emotional or Platonic love between her and other women. Because of this association, Lesbos and especially the town of Eresos, birthplace of Sappho, are visited frequently by lesbian tourists. The ancient story related about the women of Lesbos is that they objected to the constant warfare and decided to withhold sexual intercourse with their husbands in order to prevent the birth of more warriors to provide for the armies as a way to force their husbands from participation in the waring. The Victorian misinterpretation of the poems of Sappho and ignorance of the ancient tale about the behavior of the women led to the garbled contemporary use of the term.

This needs some major cites if it's to remain. - Montréalais 16:23, 26 February 2007 (UTC)