Talk:Leonardo da Vinci's relationships
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[edit] Dispute tag added
At least one of the editors for this article has an established Wikipedia history of adding unsubstantiated rumors of pederasty to biographies and then passing them off as "fact" (the editor apparently has made it his Wikipedia mission to insert the topic of pederasty to Wikipedia articles of all kinds). This link pretty much puts the lie to much of the article's current "information". This article should probably be nominated for deletion, as its sources are extremely suspect. J.R. Hercules 06:24, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you for lowering the discourse to the level of "The People's Almanac." And for the personal compliments, of course. If you could bring some more serious materials to the discussion perhaps we could include them into the article. I will not speculate on your own motives, it should be clear why. Haiduc 06:50, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- I want to concur with user J.R. Hercules. I have pointed out that Haiduc added the Pederasty labels to Francesco Melzi. The evidence for this is based a line of text. I can assure you that if you look at the letters of Giuseppe Maria Crespi to his patron in Florence, and others trying to ingratiate themselves with patrons in that time, you would see the flourishes of words which Melzi addressed to Leonardo. There is no, I repeat, no evidence that Leonardo and Melzi had a pederastic relationship. This is not worth discussing. I happen to believe that there is contemporary evidence that Leonardo was accused of homosexuality as a young man. If someone feels this is of value to state with regards to Salaino, and can work out the difference in age, so be it. I doubt there is any conclusive dating to when the relationship between Salaino and Leonardo became carnal, thus I wouldn't jump to the notion that it was pederasty.
I vote this article for deletion. I strongly insist that the statements of pederasty be excised from the text of the entry for Leonardo. CARAVAGGISTI 23:13, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Hanging blinking paragraph, again!
I really hate it when someone deletes a paragrph or sentence and leaves the dependent sentence with nothing to refer to.
If you are going to remove the quotation from Leonardo concerning procreation then please remove the statement of Freud's opinion that is based on that quotation otherwise the latter makes no sense
This type of sloppy editting really annoys me!
What would be a really good and helpful idea would be if the person looks for the source instead of just deleting a quotation from the man himself and replacing it with an opinion.
The author's opinion is a valid one to quote. But it is not top line intro stuff.
--Amandajm 23:14, 28 February 2007 (UTC).
[edit] Can't do that!!
I have just discovered that a large amount of info re Salai and Melzi has been lifted directly from [1].
That is really not on! Thinking it was written by a wiki editor, I've chopped it about a bit, without realise it was someone's non-wiki work!
O damn! it's gunna hafta be entirely rewritten! Need coffee! --Amandajm 08:15, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] OK!
Having looked back through the history of Leonardo da Vinci I have concluded that the Coppens at [2] is quoting Wiki rather than the other way around, which is legitimate.
--Amandajm 09:41, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Novel
Your structuring of interpretations of his love life seems to have little to do with either history or Leonardo. What led you to set it up that way? Haiduc 11:05, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
