Talk:Lebensborn
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[edit] Suggestions for improving the article
- The article says that "parents and children were examined by SS doctors before admittance." It would be informative to know, what exactly were the criteria for admittance?
- Newsweek is one of the media organizations accused of participating in "post-war sensationalism." This is a little difficult to believe, as Newsweek is generally a reputable source. Perhaps someone could review the cited article and re-evaluate whether it belongs in this category.
[edit] Major update
OK, major revision done to this page. I'm also the one who updated the Children of the Nazi era article as ano a couple of days ago (more work remains on that one). In this article I'm not quite sure what to do with the last section about the kidnappings in Poland. It's an important part of the war history, but it was not a Lebensborn project AFAIK. -- Steve Hart 23:01, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] POV moved from article
In reality, no evidence is found, so far, of any breeding houses. Further, the idea that the Lebensborn project was ever intended as a program to carefully breed selected humans is disputed, at best. No written material has been discovered stating such goals. There are no recorded statements, and no woman or man has stepped forward with reliable claims. The trial against the leaders of the Lebensborn organization after the war did not reveal any plans to breed humans.
The only reference to such a plan can be found in Felix Kersten's book The Kersten Memoirs, 1940-1945 (1956), where Kersten, Himmler's physical therapist/masseur, claims that Himmler told him that he had let it be known, privately, that unmarried women who longed for a child could turn to the program for conception assistance of the "revolutionary kind".
- If part of the above can be reworded, we can restore it to the article. Sam Spade 23:42, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
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- Sam, let me know what lines you are thinking along. I was battling moving this part in its entirety to a new section or to the Post-war sensationalism part. Do you feel it should be rewritten? Steve Hart 19:34, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] recent article
I thought this article [1] may have some facts useful to this wikipedia entry. Remember 04:29, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] The kidnappings
Hm... While most of 200.000 Polish children kidnapped during war had nothing to do with Lebensborn, there are however quite a few examples with Lebensborn participating in such activities. I will add the info back into the article, with corrected numbers, though. "Very soon now(tm)" :) Szopen 16:49, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] eingetragener Verein
At the head of the "Background" section I found this: The Lebensborn e.V. (eingetragener Verein{what does this mean in English?}) If the person who wrote that sentence sees this note, please learn that all you need to do is place a wiki link around the term and press the "Show preview" button. If a good link apears in the preview your question is answered. That is what I did. So the source of for the article now reads: The Lebensborn e.V. (eingetragener Verein)
If that fails a google search of the term eingetragener Verein found a dozen correct tranlations including the first hit. Nwbeeson 06:25, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
