Talk:Leaving Las Vegas

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Leaving Las Vegas was a good article candidate, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. Once the objections listed below are addressed, the article can be renominated. You may also seek a review of the decision if you feel there was a mistake. Date of review: 2007-01-16

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Contents 1 Failed GA 1.1 Second nomination 1.2 First nomination 2 Rolex 3 DVD release has additional unrated content?

[edit] Failed GA

[edit] Second nomination

This article failed good article nomination. This is how the article, as of January 16, 2007, compares against the six good article criteria:

1. Well written?:

• "Leaving Las Vegas has been filmed in super" should be "Leaving Las Vegas was filmed..."
• This sentence "Nicolas Cage received an Oscar for his role, while Elisabeth Shue and Mike Figgis received nominations for their work in this film." is redundant and poorly worded.
• The cast section should come after synopsis, and "VHS and DVD releases" should come after reception.

2. Factually accurate?: A little light on references, but probably passable for a good article. I didn't notice any errors (although I have never seen the movie).

3. Broad in coverage?:

• The "Reception" heading needs more information on box office performance.
• There needs to be a section on the soundtrack.
• The "Difference from the novel" section is only one sentence; it needs to be expanded or elimated. Since this is just a good article (and not a featured article) I would just eliminate it.

4. Neutral point of view?: Good job here. The article remained POV with no endorsements or detractions of the film, just general commentary on critical response.

5. Article stability? Good here. No edit wars.

6. Images?: Although in my opinion, it is unecessary, Image:Leaving Las Vegas DVD cover.jpg doesn't have any source information, and so could potentially be deleted.

When these issues are addressed, the article can be resubmitted for consideration. Thanks for your work so far. --Esprit15d (talk ¤ contribs) 16:17, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] First nomination

Problem: whilst this article is well written, most of the references relate to the film reviews. Not a lot of production or home release information is referenced. Please do so and resubmit the article. Wiki-newbie 20:02, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Could you please point out what production info is unreferenced using the {{fact}} template. Thanks, --Crzycheetah 00:41, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rolex

In this article in the Cleveland weekly newspaper Free Times ("Before the Court of Wikipedia. Why the People's Encyclopedia Ain't All It's Cracked Up To Be"), Erin O'Brien (sister of John O'Brien) writes about the deletion of the article about herself and then:

Let's move on to accuracy. [...] Then there's this gem in the Leaving Las Vegas article: "It is interesting to note that Nicolas Cage, who basically played John O'Brien, wore O'Brien's actual watch, 1993 Rolex Daytona." (Nice syntax.) Now then, John purchased his Rolex Oyster in 1988. Someone from the L.A. County Coroner's Department removed it from my brother's dead wrist in 1994 and sent to my father who wore it around his wrist until he died in 2002. It is now in my possession. Unless there was some clandestine transaction between Cage and my father, which is about as likely as no one noticing the Goodyear blimp landing on the front yard, this is another heaping helping of tripe.

This information was added on September 2006 by User:Eraserhead72, who most probably copied it from the IMDb trivia section about this film.

For the moment, I have removed it. IMDb is a renowned and widely used resource, but errors in IMDb entries do happen and a second source should be cited before adding this back into the article.

Erin O'Brien goes on:

I tried to edit out the erroneous statements on both sites [i.e. in this article and in John O'Brien (novelist)], but some Kiss-the-Hem-of-my-Purple-Robe Wikipedian Lord apparently usurped my efforts.

However, I can't find any such edits in this article. Her account has made no article edits. Maybe not all the information found in Free Times articles is trustworthy ;)

Regards, High on a tree 00:34, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

I was thinking of deleting that sentence myself...I think her edits were deleted and that is why we are not able to see her contributions.--Crzycheetah 00:57, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, at least they were not deleted by an ordinary admin - this would be visible in the log. regards, High on a tree 03:56, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Erin O'Brien here. I did the editing before I had the account.

I checked for edits by other accounts and anonymous users too. (You can verify it yourself if you first view this edit where Eraserhead72 added the bit about the Rolex, and then keep clicking "Newer edit →" to see what was changed in each new revision, until you arrive at the current one.) Maybe your edits got lost due to connection problems?

Regards, High on a tree 15:00, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DVD release has additional unrated content?

The DVD box claims "uncut, unrated version featuring explicit footage not seen in theatres" [1] but it's unclear whether this is true. Is the original theatrical release available on VHS? If so it would be interesting to get a comparison. --Mathew5000 07:12, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Incidentally, it looks like the film will be released in HD-DVD on 2007-03-26, but only in France, presumably Region 2 PAL: http://www.amazon.fr/Leaving-Las-Vegas-HD-DVD/dp/B000L42JQ8/. --Mathew5000 08:01, 18 March 2007 (UTC)