User talk:Latorilla

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Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! We're glad to have you here. Just wanted to let you know--the image you just uploaded appears to be from a copyrighted source. Please add source information by going to the image page (type Image:NAMEOFIMAGE in the text box) and editing it to add source information. If your image is in the public domain, or licenced under the GFDL, then it's OK to use; if not, you have to claim fair use, which may or may not stand up. See Wikipedia:Copyrights for details. Best wishes, and ask at Wikipedia:Help desk if you have any questions. Yours, [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]]

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[edit] Vote for deletion

Hi Latorilla, don't take my adding your article to VfD personally - it's just that generally, articles written by people about themselves are viewed as vanity pages, and there is a general consensus that people must be notable to some extent before meriting their own article - not every contributor to every Open Source project should get their own article, or Wikipedia would quickly fill up with lots of articles that are of interest only to the people who wrote them. I've had a look at your contributions to Maitum and T'boli, and they lok pretty good - hope we keep you as a editor here :p -- Ferkelparade 12:27, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I moved the page to User:Latorilla, where it belongs. We should probably leave it on WP:VFD until the end of the period (I think). David Remahl 12:35, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Dont wait for the end of the period. Please delete it now I'll vote for instant deletion. Latorilla 12:37, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Philippine Tarsier

Hello Latorilla, I'm afraid your article is a copyright violation. I think it's an interesting read, but you can not copy text directly from another source. Please feel free to rewrite the article, see Philippine Tarsier for instrcution. Best regards. -- Solitude 11:08, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

About those copyright violations. I've found more of your articles that contain them, please rewrite content you find on the internet. I also noticed you uploaded several images that seem to be copyrighted. I did notice you thanking someone for the image, did he give explicit permission to use the images for wikipedia under the GNU Free Documentation License? If so, please note this in the images descriptions using: {{GFDL}}. Thanks. -- Solitude 11:24, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)
In reply to User_talk:Solitude. When you submit material to the wikipedia, it needs to be copyright free, wether you are in the process of editing or not. You can use the 'show preview' button, or write the article in a text editor on your local pc first. If you really want to upload the article before finishing it, please use the {{inuse}} tage to explicitly let us know that you are working on it right then. The copyrighted URL's were indeed broken, my bad, but I assume you know where you took the content from. Regards. -- Solitude 11:27, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)
By the way, you can find the original content back in the history of the copyrighted pages, if you want to rewrite the article, follow the instructions in the copyright boiler plate text. -- Solitude 11:33, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Note that the article content is still available in the page history, for one week. However, it will be extremely difficult to remove the "taint" of the original article from the text without doing a full rewrite. Unfortunately. -- David Remahl 11:33, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I can understand all your emotions here. But I also sense the tendency to knee-jerk reactions. As far as I understand, a wiki was developed for constant editing. So why explode after just few minutes of suspecting. Latorilla 11:39, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • I can sadly sense of certain air of paranoia here. Please show me that it is not true Latorilla 11:42, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Copyright paranoia is bad, however when an article is an obvious copyright breach, then it poses a great threat to the Wiki. Legally, Wikipedia is liable for the content on the web site, although some protection is granted for online bulletin boards. However, that protection is only granted if reactions to copyright violations is immediate. Even if you are editing the page and make it free of copyright-infringing material, the original article will persist in the page history. Because of this, it is very important that the page is deleted and recreated. -- David Remahl 11:46, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Well, then there's a simple solution to that. Delete the history with the supposed "dangerous" material. I am amazed by the level of emotions, really :-) or :( It could be good or bad, not yet sure at this moment though. But ok, I will try my best to clean up the articles. I have emotional relationships to them because I grew up in those municipalities and feel obliged to prevent their stories being reduced to oblivion. Latorilla 12:01, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)
    • We're really not that emotional about it. Solitude acted efficiently in accordance with policy. It is great that you are adding information about the area where you grew up, and I must say the copyvio was wikified very well! — David Remahl 12:17, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Not paranoia Latorilla, it is very easy to spot the copyright violations using Special:Newpages. The sooner copyright violations are found, the sooner they can be removed or rewritten. Don't underestimate the amount of rewriting needed for articles that use a large copyrighted text. -- Solitude 12:01, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the action. But IMO, the posting was premature. You could have contacted me first and discussed it with me. I am not a crook that must be reported right away to the proper authorities. Anyway, I have not understimated anything. If you still like to check the article of Maitum, please do it. I am now going to rewrite the article about the tarsiers. Contrary to your probable suspicion that I cannot write my own articles, I will notify you once the tarsiers article is finished. Plagiarism is one thing, but taking information from one source and using it in another article is not considered plagiarism. As to the images, I will temporarily blank them out until I have sent to wikipedia a solid evidence of copyright permissions because you might "raise" the bars and demand such things. If you like, send me a real email address and I will send you the permissions privately. Your action was honorable and wikipedia needs people like you to maintain high quality. But the fast reaction has almost backfired. Everything around us is a compromise. Latorilla 13:37, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyrights

ALso note that you cannot take images from other sources without permission (and even then it may be discouraged, since all Wikipedia content should be GFDL, ideally). For example Image:04tarsier.jpg. Please list all images of which you do not own copyright. David Remahl 11:21, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

This issue has been cleared now. I got the permissions to publish the images. The permissions were given to me personally by the original copyright holders Jun Ramos <junram@gsc.weblinq.com> and Gene Boyd Lumawag. Latorilla 09:10, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Tarictic Hornbill

I've edited this article to bring it in line with other bird articles - please see my comments on the talk page. The English and scientific names don't correspond to the list at hornbill, but I'm not sure which is correct. thanks jimfbleak 06:11, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Sorry, I obviously wrote that bit in a hurry. As I understand it, the various (former) subspecies are now mostly considered to be full species by HBW. I hope my latest revision makes more sense jimfbleak 05:27, 31 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Sarangani articles

I was going through and fixing links to corn which is a disambiguation page. For a number of articles including your articles on Sarangani, I didn't know for certain if corn (maize) or corn (wheat, barley, oats) was meant. Could you tell me or change them yourself. I usually use [[maize|corn]] where the original author wrote corn but meant specifically maize. Rmhermen 18:48, Aug 10, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Philippine Tarsier

Not sure wether this comment belongs here - feel free to delete or move it if it doesn't.

I saw your article on the tarsier, and read the discussion about it. All I want to say: thanks for making those beautiful pictures available to the users! --Djadek 15:06, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Care2x

Hi Latorilla. I've done something that is certainly going to annoy you: I have listed Care2x for deletion. In the present form, the page does not explain in what respect Care2x differs from many other (commerically) available HISes, apart from the fact that it happens to be open source. I'm leaving this message because it is only fair that I warn you about its listing. JFW | T@lk 20:52, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)


[edit] Unverified images

Hi! Thanks for uploading the following image:

  • Image:Devteam.jpg

I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use {{gfdl}} if you release it under the GNU Free Documentation License, {{fairuse}} if you claim fair use, etc.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know at my talk page where you got the images and I'll tag them for you. Thanks so much. [[User:Poccil|Peter O. (Talk, automation script)]] 05:40, Dec 11, 2004 (UTC)

P.S. You can help tag other images at User:Yann/Untagged_Images. Thanks again.

[edit] Tambayan

Kumusta ka?Are you filipino? Baka gusto mong tumambay? Maybe you'd like to hang out?--Jondel 02:38, 8 September 2005 (UTC)