Talk:Lasith Malinga

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Contents 1 "Slinging" 2 Double hat-trick 3 Dud Link 4 Photo

[edit] "Slinging"

Anyone watching this page...?
Happened to see this bowler for the first time during coverage of the current World Cup and (along, I suspect, with many other casual spectators) was surprised to see his bowling action seems to be accepted. I realize I'm no expert, but it appears to be some form of fast-paced chucking, i.e. neither overarm nor underarm. Given the trouble I've heard his colleague Muralitharan has experienced, I imagine Malinga must've drawn criticism...?  Regards, David Kernow (talk) 01:45, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

"Chucking", aka throwing isn't at all the same thing as roundarm bowling. Notice he merits a mention at the bottom of the latter article! It does indeed look basically halfway between roundarm and overarm. My understanding (such as it is) is that any angle of the arm at the shoulder is fine, but excessive bending of the elbow is illegal. Alai 06:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. Whatever the legality, I can imagine the look of his unusual action gives him an edge (as well as the wig he seems to wear!). Best wishes, David (talk) 12:28, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, a pace bowler can be accused of chucking if he bends his elbow at a lower angle than 20 degrees.DragonOfLegend 13:31, 22 March 2007 (UTC)DragonOfLegend

A bowler (of any style) is guilty of chucking if the bend is more than fifteen degrees. Alai 02:06, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

It's not actually bending; it's straightening. You can theoretically bowl with a bend in your arm if you can hold it in that bent position the entire time. You can also bend to a greater and greater degree as you progress through your action, which is effectively what any bowler does from the point of release. What constitutes a 'chuck' is when you straighten the arm from a bent position. Some controversy has arisen from bowlers such as Brett Lee and Shoaib Akhtar because, at the express pace they bowl, backwards hyperextension of the elbow can occur. MrAngy 07:02, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

As Alai and MrAngy have very eloquently outlined, Malinga's action - while unorthodox - is not illegal in the sense of chucking. I search but could find no reference to anyone doubting his action, which is great news as he is an exciting young player. ROxBo 23:56, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Double hat-trick

Surely a double hat trick would be taking 6 wickets in 6 balls and not 4 in 4? Lugnuts 11:15, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

removed it. Tintin 11:58, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I wouldn't suggest putting it that way in the article (so good call on the removal), but in a sense it is a double hat-trick: i.e. wickets 1-2-3 being a hat-trick, and 2-3-4 being a hat-trick. But since "double hat-trick" could mean any number of different things (like say, two (separate) hat-tricks in an innings or a match, not necessary in six successive balls), unless there's a generally accepted sense in which it's used... Alai 14:50, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

No, sorry, Alai, you are wrong. No reference book refers to a double hat trick as 4 in 4 - they all say four in four. If you can cite one, feel free to put it up for discussion, but even then there will be more reference books that do not describe it so, so you're unlikely to succeed in gaining consensus. Will E at work 164.36.142.217 16:04, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't see how that contradicts what I actually said. Alai 19:09, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

It does, because Double Hat trick DOES have a specified meaning - 6 in 6. 164.36.142.217 09:06, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to see a source for that claim, which contradicts how the Australian media seems to be using the term (look at the refs added to the hat-trick article). But again, you're asserting that I'm wrong, without making it in the least clear what I'm supposed to have said that's wrong. Alai 20:14, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dud Link

Could someone with more Wikinouse than I correct the dud link to the BBC article.Far Canal 23:23, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Photo

This page needs one - can anyone help? ROxBo 05:26, 9 April 2007 (UTC)