Talk:Lanier Middle School (Houston)
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Re: Sidney Lanier Middle School, Houston
Just another middle school. RickK 23:54, Jul 13, 2004 (UTC)
I was thinking of listing this one too, but was intrigued by the alumni list. Rhymeless 00:22, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- Delete, delete and delete. We just have stand firm on including middle schools here. - Lucky 6.9 03:21, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. Cite other cases we've seen, with comparable alumni lists, & i will reconsider. --Jerzy(t) 04:46, 2004 Jul 14 (UTC)
- Keep! What's the harm in keeping it? Walter Cronkite went there! Neutrality 04:47, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. Why oh why isn't there a SchoolWiki to put this rubbish in? Noisy 07:28, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- We don't need to stand firm on not including middle schools, we simply need to stand firm on not including anything not notable. So Delete--Samuel J. Howard 07:31, Jul 14, 2004 (UTC)
- Keep (marginally). We don't need to stand firm on not including middle schools, we simply need to stand firm on not including anything not notable. (Even if it happens to be, say, a high school. Or a university). However, two of the "notable alumni" are really quite notable—Denton Cooley being the other one. The two others are governors of Texas and are notable enough to have Wikipedia articles about them, and, I just checked, those articles were not created by the author of the Sidney Lanier Middle School. So I think this article meets my personal criterion for acceptance, which is that the article, as created, include reasonable evidence of notability. Dpbsmith 12:39, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- Delete: I'd love to see a notability rule involved in the keep/delete decision, but notability can't really go to alumni. If it does, as I've said elsewhere, PS1, PS2, etc. in NYC will get articles simply because of their population base and age. Simple statistics will tell you that schools in Hollywood and NYC will have matriculated notable people. Did the school create the person, or was it just school? Is the school referred to in the work that's notable, or was it just school? That's all hypothetical, though. The line as I understand it is (ugh) high schools stay, and middle schools go. This is a middle school. Geogre 14:08, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- I've argued against the inclusion of schools, but I fail to see why high schools are in and middle schools are out. What's with the half measures here? If we're going to include schools, then we should include all types of schools. Exploding Boy 14:21, Jul 14, 2004 (UTC)
- FWIW, I agree with you. I'd like to see a definition of notability, though, before the door opens. As I argue all over the place, now, alumni should be included only if the alumnus pays tribute to or could not have been notable without the school's effects (and no, that doesn't mean "couldn't have gone to college if she didn't finish this kindergarten"). Geogre 15:04, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- Keep: Notability due to alumni. WhisperToMe 08:42, 16 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- Keep: If it's notable enough for someone to write an article about like this one, it's worthy in my humble opinion. newkai 17:29, 16 Jul 2004 (UTC)
end moved discussion
[edit] James Harrison link
The link (in the alumni section) points to a disambig. page with 5 James Harrisons. Which is the right one? Gimboid13 06:53, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
- If no-one actually knows I suggest removing the link or even removing the name from the list. Being on the list of notable alumni requires notability. Actually if they're going to stay on the list a lot of those names should probably have a line about why they're notable. Gimboid13 22:08, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
