Talk:Languages of Argentina
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[edit] Expansion
Theres lots of additional information on the Ethnologue page on Argentina and the subpages for individual languages, some of which do not have direct links and you have to do a search on them specifically. Furthermore there is a LOT of information and content on the Spanish version of this article.Qrc2006 00:03, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Shitty
Since the article is so shitty, please clean it up. I however find that there were also shitty edits added after mine, including clearly POV issues calling Quechua a langauge with a poor socioeconomic connotation, totally baseless and unreferances.Qrc2006 00:25, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] WPCD
I would like to nominate this article for the WPCD, any one second that?Qrc2006 23:50, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] InterWiki
It is inappropriate for the right-hand side of this article to be overrun with {{InterWiki}} templates. I've removed them. Melchoir 03:06, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] German
I believe that the swissinfo 1.8 million figure sounds like too much, and the source is just taken from a comment by a Martin Jebsen (after all, its an economics related article).
There are very different sourced numbers of German speakers in Argentina. Because of this, we should preferably say between X and Y German speakers citing both the lowest and highest figures. It would be not only more correct, but would also let the reader know that such an uncertanty exists. --Mariano(t/c) 14:14, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- Don't be silly Mariano. German is heard very often in Argentina. It is used very often in Bussiness so this would be a very good source because of that. Don't be bias because it sounds like you are. (XGustaX 14:38, 5 April 2007 (UTC))
Your line of reasoning left behind the most important part of my message: more than one linguistic-related source claim that there are less than half of the German speakers the SwissInfo article suggests. We cannot just ignore this fact.
My comment on the number of German Speakers been too high has its root on the figures that state there are around 1.5 million Italian speakers; thus some 300,000 less than German speakers, what seams to me incoherent given the number of Italian immigrants compared to that of the Germans, and the similarities of the Italian language with Spanish.
Again, it's not my opinion on the number of German speakers, its about the incoherence in numbers between the sources; Why choose the SwissInfo over the ethnologue or WorldLanguage ?? Doing so consist on Bias; commenting the incompatibility of the sources is not.
By the way, comments like "Don't be bias because it sounds like you are.", specially from a user who has used sockpuppets to push his point of view, are unnecessarily aggressive, since I came to the talk page to settle the issue before doing any modifications to the article. --Mariano(t/c) 15:05, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
I wouldn't be talking when you are also agressively pressing your point of view. That is what I mean. In any ways the Italian speakers is wayyy to low you are right. I have found most sources that say the Italian speaking population is 6,9 precent. So you are right. Just because two sources say they are low doesnt mean they are right because they could be citing the same qoute. In any ways it German is heard often in Argentina and you should know this.It is deff. more the Arabic. Comon that I don't believe that what so ever. Arabic in deed is rare to hear, but the article says there are 1,000,000 speakers?. I can tell you that much. However, you are right I believe that there are many many more Italian speakers then 1,500,000 and 1,000,000 Arabic Speakers. No no, there is no way there are that many Arabic speakers especially since Arabs came in realtively small numbers to Argentina. The italian figure sounds too low to me especially when 60 precent of Argentines are of Italian descent. The source tho seems creditable. The fact of the matter is German is a very common language to hear in Argentina and 500,000 sounds too small. Especially when business use it often also. You are right you came to talk page first which is good, however It seems like all you do is like to revert peoples edits and thats why I felt that you were being bias. I am sorry if I was ""attacking you"", but then again talking about my pervious actions on wikipedia doesn't help either. Let's try to be civil here. Thank You.(XGustaX 20:11, 5 April 2007 (UTC))
- Again, since different sources give very different numbers, I suggest we rephrase such cases as "There are between X and Y numberos of Z speakers", sourcing bouth figures. It seams to be the only way to avoid judging a source better than the other. --Mariano(t/c) 20:39, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
That makes sense. Normally your right I would not trust such sources normally, as you pointed out, but since German is a language heavly used in Business also, I would guess that businessmen would know there numbers (or have to know). I changed the article to reflect the changes we discussed. Good chatting with you.(XGustaX 16:12, 6 April 2007 (UTC))
