Talk:Lakes United/talk/Archive1

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[edit] The article has been nominated for deletion. Discuss, don't vandalize.

The article has been nominated for deletion. You are encouraged to discuss the merits of the article at the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lakes United page, and to add to the article to remedy the omissions noted there. However, blanking the page and removing the AfD notice 1) does not help the cause of the article and 2) is considered vandalism, an offense that can have you blocked from Wikipedia during the discussion time period! Please, I invite you to make a useful comment on the AfD page (as opposed to looking at my edit history and making non-useful comments as at Talk:Chick-fil-A Bowl. Thank you. —C.Fred (talk) 05:02, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

I have added information in an effort to establish notability. Capitalistroadster 09:01, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Quoting from one of the added links: "Wikipedia says 'Chief' was was raised in the Newcastle suburb of Kurri Kurri, and played for Lakes United in the Newcastle competition. He joined the Newcastle Knights in 1988 and made his first grade debut in 1989 against the Balmain Tigers." What I read from that is that Lakes United is below the first grade. What it doesn't tell me is whether Lakes was his junior club, a second-grade pro club, or what the club is. And that's the problem: neither does this article or the one on the Newcastle league. Without that context, the article does not demonstrate that the club is of sufficient level to be included.
I mean, I could explain where the club I followed growing up fits in the ladder. The Raleigh IceCaps were a fully professional hockey team in the ECHL, which is two levels below the NHL, the premiere hockey league in North America. Is Lakes United fully professional, and where is their league in relation to top-level rugby league in Australia? —C.Fred (talk) 00:58, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Repeating what I said on the AfD page: I'm going to ask two more pointed questions: are most/all of the players on the club paid to play (professionals)? Does the winner of the Newcastle Rugby League go into a knock-out tournament which ultimately crowns the champion of the NSW Rugby League? If either of those statements are true, I'll agree that the club is notable. —C.Fred (talk) 02:38, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

To answer your question, the Newcastle Rugby League is purely a local competition and the teams that compete in it are at best semi-professional. I don't think it's really relevent, it was added before i had a chance to read the guidelines and was really just a rough stub. Perdy80 03:04, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

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