Talk:Lake Baikal

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what happend to the lake baikal

No worries, it's still here! 71.65.54.92 20:13, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Proposed changes

This article includes all measurements in both kilometers and miles. For more standard internationalization, it should include information only in kilometers. Marcos Juárez 19:05, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

That goes against Wikipedia's Manual of Style for units of measurement. We need to have both included in the article, otherwise we Americans will get confused. --Lethargy 01:22, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Because the lake is so large in surface area, you should also provide information about which place to visit the see the best part of the lake.

  • 1) This part is strange: In Russian, it is traditionally called a sea: О́зеро Байка́л (Ozero Baykal), and in the Buryat and Mongol languages it is called Dalai-Nor, or "Sacred Sea".

I've never heard it called a sea in Russian, and in any case, "озеро" means "lake".Palefire 09:30, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

  • I can see maybe because maybe "Dalai-Nor" (actually Nuur and Dalai meaning ocean or sea) is not a literal translation of Baigal Nuur (Baigal meaning nature). Sacred Sea is more of a figurative definition because most Mongolian's won't refer to it as sacred but it's esteemed as such. If that makes sense.

The following points were suggested by me, Em3rald, a new user. I do not have reliable references for this information, so I am hesitant to post it in the actual article. If I have time today, I will find what I can to cross-reference within the Wikipedia (such as specific fish species, etc).

  • 1) More information (or at least an internal wiki link) should be added referring to the lake being a central crossroads for 2 old cultures: Sayats and Buryats. 09:30, 29 March 2006 (MST)
  • 2) Should add a reference to location: 51 29'N and 55 46'N latitude and 103 41'E and 109 57'E longitude. 09:30, 29 March 2006 (MST).
  • 3) Some information regarding the topographics of it's floor should be included. This article doesn't touch this yet, so it almost seems like the lake is uniformly "V" shaped, which it is not. It has 3 underwater holes or depressions: South, Middle, and North. As well, some reference to the Academic Mountain Ridge which also adds character to the lake bottom. 09:40, 29 March 2006 (MST).
  • 4) Some information regarding ice formation in winter should be included. In this article as it stands, one might think the ice blankets it 100%. I don't know if this is true, I believe ice only covers the bays and shallows. Some unofficial reference I have mention the ice reaches 1 metre thick (which is apparently not very thick for lake ice?). Plus average temperatures and related information seems valuable to this article. 09:45, 29 March 2006 (MST).
  • 5) A photo of the Nerpa would REALLY be an asset to this article, but I am too unsure of copyright infringement to confidently link any images. I guess I have to go read the rules and guidelines with image posting in mind. 09:45, 29 March 2006 (MST).
  • 6) More information regarding the fish indiginous to the lake would be good. For example, the 20 some odd species of Gobi, the rare Golomyanka, and other more common fish species. I suppose it would be easy to cross-link these to and from other wikipedia files. Also, crayfish and other related organisms and their impact on the lake as an ecosystem. 09:50, 29 March 2006 (MST).
  • 6A) I seem to recall that there is a species of fresh water dolphin endemic to this lake. The article mentions the Baikal Seal as the only mammal.
  • 7) Information regarding the Irkutsk Dam and it's impact on the lake should be included, such as damage to the Omul population (more and smaller), the Baikal Bullhead (fewer and less robust), and overall water level. 09:55, 29 March 2006 (MST)
  • 8) History: Atsagat datsan (Buddhist Temple), Ghengis Khan, Fortresses, etc.

That's it. I appologize if I am not following specific posting structures ... I am still unfamiliar with the editing procedure. -Em3rald 17:02, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What improvements are needed?

If anyone knows of improvements that are needed, please add them to the to-do list so we can focus our efforts. --Lethargy 01:36, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tried to make citation method consistent per tag at top of article

I tried to fix it all up. One link did not work, so I commented it out in the code -- it is still there but hidden. I couldn't figure out where the links under References went. I put a few in the article but I was not convident about placement. Therefore, I left the whole list intact under References, even though I converted the first three to the Notes format. Please contact me about any problems or anything you want me to fix. Thanks! Mattisse(talk) 01:30, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A few inconsistencies

In the second paragraph is states that Lake Baikal is the oldest lake in the world, while later it lists its age at 25-30 million years. However, in the article on the Caspian Sea it lists the age of that "lake" as 30 million years old. Perhaps it should be changed to "one of the oldest".

Also, later in the 2nd paragraph, it states that "Olkhon, by far the largest island in Lake Baikal, is the largest lake-bound island in the world.". However, it you check the article in Manitoulin Island in Lake Huron, you will see that Manitoulin is a much larger island.

Is that all verified with reliable sources, though? --Lethargy 21:31, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sediment

What is the meaning/significance of this statement? If all the sediment were scoured from the lake, the water from above would replace the scoured sediment so the depth of the lake itself would not change.

I'm confused. Unschool 19:01, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Meaning of the Name

I heard once that Bay-kal actually means big lake in Turkish and it makes sense. Can someone familiar with Turkic languages confirm this? 85.99.161.82 09:04, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Not the Largest lake on Earth by Area

Lake Superior covers the most area at 82,4142. Lake Baikal is approx 31,5002. I updated the sentence that said it was largest by area and volume to mention only volume.

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