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AMR

AMR is in need of your leadership. Please be on the coucil. This[1] is its site. Peace. Sir James Paul 23:15, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for letting me know about AMR. --♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ Walkie-talkie 08:58, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
I understand. A drop of pain in your heart is an ocean in mine. Please, let me help with this article. Nina Odell 15:02, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Welcome template

Machan I created a welcome template we could use to welcome Sri Lankan newcomers to Wikipedia. You can see it here Template:Welcome-lk.
Any suggestions to improve it? I thought maybe we could start it off somwthing like

Ayubowan, Hello and Welcome to Wikipedia

If you like it, can you create the Ayobowan text or jpg image, cos I cant make Sinhala fonts right now :( --snowolfD4( talk / @ ) 16:26, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Sure --♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ Walkie-talkie 09:03, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Licensing on images

You seem to have an issue with English or copyright laws or something. There are certain things you should notice when it comes to uploading images and tagging them with their copyright information.

  1. You cannot license copyrighted images as GFDL simply because you feel like it. I've seen through most of your uploaded images, and you license them all as GFDL until someone fixes the license for you.
  2. When others, like myself, fix your licenses on images, or remove incorrect ones, you often just revert them back without giving any edit summary or reasoning anywhere. This is highly disruptive. Please state the reason for what you're doing in that little edit summary box below.

Please correct your behavior so that I won't have to take this further to WP:RFC or similar.

I will revert your faulty revert on Image:Czech_RM70_02.jpg again, and the next time you revert back, please offer a reason, either here or in the edit summary. Thank you.

DarkPhoenix 16:29, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Just to let you know I am undergoing a similar thing at wikiquote simple english. If you want I will tell you more about it. Happy new year. --Sir James Paul 05:38, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Shoe Zone

In December last year you reverted deliberate advertisments on the article Shoe Zone. I've just reverted another advert on it. Also I've categorised it under the category, shoe companies. So it's all sorted out now. Rasillon 11:28, 1 January 2007 (UTC)


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Hi Lahiru

Please remove the pictures from Gongala Massacre. Among other things, it's highly disrepectful of the dead to be used in such a manner. I appreciate your attention in this. NinaNina Odell 16:54, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

I realize that these pictures are elsewhere, but they do not belong on Wikipedia. If people want to see them, let them go to those sites. Thank you. NinaNina Odell 16:58, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Being disrespectful would be the last thing i do. I have up most respect to the dead innocent Sinhalese and that feeling led me to post these pictures. --♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ Walkie-talkie 17:06, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Okay. One, with the soldiers. Please. NinaNina Odell 17:05, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Currently, there are as many pictures as text. There are an inordinate number of pictures for an article of this size. Also, the article needs to "move on" as it were, to describe any potential aftermath, response from the Sri Lankan government, etc. I understand completely your desire for the inclusion of these photographs. Please consider Wikipedia. Sincerely, Nina Odell 17:10, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
I really appreciate all your efforts to help the overall quality of this article. You fixed things I don't know how to fix. Thank you. Nina Odell 17:13, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
You are welcome Nina, I have removed two pics on your request but please do not ask from me to remove other two as well because you have to understand pain in my heart. 17:23, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

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I do understand

A drop in your heart is an ocean in mine. I do this for the sake of us all. This article and others must be neutral. Nina Odell 15:05, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

I have no intention or desire to rename this article. It's in the body of the article that neutral language must be used. As I understand it, this is a rebellion, and not yet a civil war. So even the phrase war crime cannot as yet be used. Until the Sri Lankan Government openly declares war on the LTTE, these are murders. Read the article you gave me again and look at the language. Nina Odell 17:16, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Remember too, that all these events are relatively current, and such can open fresh wounds for the victims' families (even distant family members). Please consider this in relation to the photos. Nina Odell 17:20, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Fundamentally, I disagree with no one here. There may be a mis-communication. What is your remedy? Nina Odell 17:40, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Frankly, I misread the situation. I had no idea that there were multiple editors here. I also think that this may be our fork in the road. I won't get into edit wars. I've done all I can, and trust Peter with moving forward. Best of fortune to you, Nina Odell 04:42, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

A request

I think you are following my edits, there is a policy against it. Please read it before I escalate this. Thanks RaveenS

No, actually I didn't. If you look at carefully on my userpage you will notice an userbox called "This user is a newpage patroller." --♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ Walkie-talkie 16:14, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
It is a damn good excuse:))), one even I would use but I will keep an eye on this situation in the future but as needed in resolving conflicts I have made my request to you. Thanks RaveenS

State terrorism in Sri Lanka

Hi Lahiru_k you had reverted a link in this article saying its spam, probably you didn't watch the video. Its a BBC documentry on JVP insurrection and other humanitarian issues in Sri Lanka. No worries I have restored the link. ŇëŧΜǒńğëŗ 14:13, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Good for you that you corrected this deletion. — Sebastian 09:29, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

add this link to whee neccessary

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FutureSinhala —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dasiths (talk • contribs) 19:33, 7 January 2007 (UTC).

sorry but learning as i go

hey machan i now knw it is not acceptable. I am new to wiki and only grabbin the concept. please look over the edited article FutureSinhala and make chnages if neccessary. if required even remove my name.

i went to the page u asked me and voted. read dat if u can. Dasiths 20:50, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

i didn't put ugg boot on there. i don't know what you're talking about

Work for you Pal

I have a suggestion for you. That is to create the following articles List of massacres attributed to the LTTE, Terrorism by LTTE' because the second article will balance out the State terrorism by Sri Lanka article and the first one will balance out an article that I am going to create. Awaiting your reply. My idea is that one day we can cobine all these into singular articles such as Terrorismn in Sri Lanka and Massacres in Sri Lanka but for now seperate ones will do. Thanks RaveenS 13:56, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Lahiru

I don't understand what you're doing. Please talk to me. I'm free to help now that the Neutrality Project case is closed. I want to support everyone in these matters. Nina Odell 16:50, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry I had to do this

I opened a case because I think both you are the same [2] if not my apologies. ThanksRaveenS

Yeah no need to apologies, you are trying to make sure what you are thinking and you are just follow the basic actions. But I know who I am and I hereby I ask from you to take back that request and post it after the TFD was over with along the Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser. Because its says "Vote fraud on ongoing vote - Wait until vote closes before listing".
We all have been vote there and and if you ask for a checkuser now they will decline that. Checkuser is the easiest way to prove me that we not sockpuppets. I hope that you will reconsider about my above requests. Thank you --♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ Walkie-talkie 21:24, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Machan if you can see what I wrote on User talk:Iwazaki. --snowolfD4( talk / @ ) 21:35, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Yeah machang I saw it. Thanks --♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ Walkie-talkie 21:47, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Widhrew the case for the time being because of your request on my user page. Thanks RaveenS 22:16, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Image:SFriendly.gif

Hi, as you can see, someone has changed Image:SFriendly.gif and, apparently doesn't know how to fix it (the border line is uneven now). Would you be will to give it a go? Rfrisbietalk 22:46, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind. It has been fixed. Rfrisbietalk 15:47, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Bye

It was nice knowing you. --Sir James Paul, La gloria è a dio 01:10, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I was a bit distracted for sometime due to some articles regarding the terrorist attacks that was carried out against innocent civilians in my country by one of the bloodiest terrorist group in the world in the name of their liberation. By reading whole of this section brother what I can see is, you have had a dispute with someone and you thought to retire from editing Wikipedia. Giving up what you are doing is your decision but, once Martin Luther King Jr. said as on my userpage, "We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope". We all die someday as we were borne to this world. And what we have collected from this world, we have to leave behind including our loved once and what we can take is only the respect we collect from others for the good work we have committed. May be you don't know there was a Wikipedian called RickK. He was fighting against vandalism in Wikipedia long time ago (nearly two years ago) and now he is fully retired from editing, but still some Wikipedians respect what he has done to the betterment of Wikipedia. As a result, the Barnstar For Fighting Against Vandalism award was named after him. I saw during the past months that you were trying to do some thing like that for the community with some of your friends. And you also invited me to the council of that, but unfortunately i was distracted for some other work as i mentioned above. As you know, I am fighting against the LTTE's propaganda campaign and spreading bias campaign on Wikipedia. There are also such campaigns regarding your country too and what I suggest is that you too should fight against those because as I mentioned earlier, you can only carry the respect you collect from others and we all have a responsibility to work towards them. As other users, I too ask from you to do not give up what was you are doing, don't take back your step that you kept forward and take the strength from all the obstacles that you have to face and go for the goal and we are always with you. --♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ Walkie-talkie 04:44, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Amen, brother! I felt a bit disillusioned, too, from the ongoing edit wars, but your words here make me want to stay. — Sebastian 05:54, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Ooh thanks brother . I never did think that you were disillusioned because of the edit wars on Sri Lankan conflict related topics. I have been here nearly 4 n half months and I always had to face such experiences. RaveenS has been here for 11 months and both of us and every other user have been facing such problems and none of them gave up editing. Why? That's because we all have an infinite hope that we regret to lose. But some people like Elalan, after they have been confirmed as sock puppets of another user, became a blatant vandal and I was accused as a sock puppeteer for some thing I didn't do and I was blocked for one week. Have you ever been accused for some thing you didn't do and punished? At least on your school days? I have been once and with this incidence the count was raised up to two. Ater that I was really disappointed and I thought to give up editing but I didn't give up my infinite hope. So there's no point in doing something like giving up editing for a simple matter. --♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ Walkie-talkie 07:29, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Reply

saving you some time from checking my talk area. ::In reply, though I stated TamilNet, I believe I also mentioned a pattern of behavior, for example look at this, now not only is this edit somewhat inflametory and is certainly controversial, it was quickly reverted by another individual, at which, the Anon user snubbed his nose at the proposal for discussion and the warning posted on his page by simply re-adding the word terrorist. I have been through the majority of his contributions and he has all the wholemarks of a vandal and has periodically came onto Wikipedia to make snuff edits and then not justifiy himself nor make any attempt to improve his editing over the 7 months that he has been making such edits on Wikipedia among such criticism. I stand by my warning and if removed I hope that you will replace it before I do. I also find it somewhat disturbing how you might of found of such a warning, which leads me to believe that you watch my contributions, which is tantamount to cyberstalking, which is just weird and creepy if true.

Happy Holidays --Sharz 10:11, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Huh, look here, there's nothing a bit important and valuable I see in your contributions, than destructions, that makes me come behind you. For your information, I've been having Tamilnet in my watchlist for a pretty long time and I have a right to go through its edits and I certainly don't need any instructions from you regarding that. Happy Editing!!! --♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ Walkie-talkie 06:52, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Reply

Look at the lead in now, any comments welcome RaveenS 03:04, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

I have did some corrections in there and now seems its okay to me, and try to find some neutral sources for the Roman Catholic bishop's comment. Happy Editing!!! --♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ Walkie-talkie 11:43, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Glad Sri Lankans on Wikipedia can reach consensus on these issues. Longer we stay in Wikipedia more neutral we have to become, is'nt it

RaveenS 13:48, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

--♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ Walkie-talkie 07:10, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
What I learned from Nagerkovil article is that what we can and not use Tamilnet, Tamilcanadian and Tamilnation as sources for. What we can use is when they are the primary sources of information but if they are secondary sources for such notes as UN reports etc then it is better to use the primary source if it is available. Look at what Shuniker had left from Tamilnation and what he took out. I learned a valuable lesson from the effort. He took out Federico Mayor quote because it is secondary but he left the letter to Australian Federation of Tamils by an Australian minister in because it is primary. Hence Tamilnet quoating the Bishop is not only primary but is also WP:V] verfiable because his Tamil speech was attached to the news report. It may not be a neutral WP:NPOV source because most sources are biased including BBC (remember SL government complaint against it) but a WP:RS source for this article. Neutrality comes into play when we look at the overall article itself. Is it written from a neutral point of view or just gives one point of view only ? Each segment can balance each other out not that ecah sentence has to be neutral. Infact in the Bishops comments I included that he was accused by the other side of being pro rebel just to balance out the whole artcle. Your comments please. I want to solve this without needing eloborate mechanisms. Thanks RaveenS 01:13, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
what we can and not use Tamilnet, Tamilcanadian and Tamilnation as sources for. What we can use is when they are the primary sources of information but if they are secondary sources for such notes as UN reports etc then it is better to use the primary source if it is available.
Yeah, I agree with you. Biased sources should use only when primary sources unavailable. But if any one use the independent sources to start the intro/article and biased sources as the allegation, I'm not agree with that. Most of the time even us (you know who I mean by us) try to use independent sources always than using the defense.lk.
Look at what Shuniker had left from Tamilnation and what he took out. I learned a valuable lesson from the effort. He took out Federico Mayor quote because it is secondary but he left the letter to Australian Federation of Tamils by an Australian minister in because it is primary.
Hmm yeah I saw it. Give him a Barnstar, I'll sign it too.
Hence Tamilnet quoating the Bishop is not only primary but is also WP:V] verfiable because his Tamil speech was attached to the news report. It may not be a neutral WP:NPOV source because most sources are biased including BBC (remember SL government complaint against it) but a WP:RS source for this article
Mmmm... I'm partially agree with you. Hope you have notice the Iwaszaki's argument with Sebastian. He noted that, Bishop's holy mouth is not a reliable source for him. I'm not insulting to the bishop but I like to agree with Iwazaki.
Except those sections, Nagerkovil school bombing article is an excellent example for neutrality .(for me). --♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ Walkie-talkie 07:09, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Happy King Day

I'm fulfilled in what I do... I never thought that a lot of money or fine clothes — the finer things of life — would make you happy. My concept of happiness is to be filled in a spiritual sense. - Coretta Scott King (attributed)

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Neutral coverage of the Sri Lanka crisis

I love the idea of a WikiProject for neutral coverage of the Sri Lanka crisis. There already exists such a project, Wikipedia:WikiProject NCSLC, and I'm considering joining it. This would be an ideal forum to discuss issues of general interest, such as User:SebastianHelm/Sri Lanka#Recommended guideline for editing Sri Lanka conflict related articles. So far, I have hesitated because I wasn't sure if it would be perceived as being neutral, since the member list seemed to have some bias. However, if you could join, too, then I think we can really improve things there together. Please reply on User talk:SebastianHelm/Sri Lanka#Wikipedia:WikiProject NCSLC. Thanks! — Sebastian 18:52, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

72.10.96.197

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I had to issue that warning because someone who access from this IP vandalized this page[3]. If these acts of vandalism are random students messing around, the officials of the school should take necessary actions to increase the discipline of students. --♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ Walkie-talkie 13:58, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

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Your Editing

Hey, You were hell-bent to delete my article's on the AFD discussion, but suddenly you have changed your mind and expanding my article. I know the nature of Kandyan Sinhalese. Even my step-grand mother is a Kandyan Buddhist Sinhalese. But in wikipedia I have to argue a lot things even in the future. So you might feel still I am an uncomfortable person. Thanks for your editing. Rajsingam 07:32, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Well yes I was hell bent to delete your article because you are not notable in Sri Lanka. I would have certainly known about you if you were notable. Anyway, I will definitely help you maintain the quality of your article. By the way, how did you guess I am a Kandyan Sinhalese. --♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ Walkie-talkie 08:09, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
O.K. you forget about the AFD issues. I went through sometime back your user profile their I have seen something about "Trinity College", that made me to guess, you might be a Kandyan Sinhalese, Am I right in my guessing?Rajsingam 08:23, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
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