Talk:Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement for the Propagation of Islam

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I believe the correct Urdu title would be احمدیہ انجمان اشعاتِ اسلام, but I'm not 100% sure on the spelling of انجمان and اشعات. Mustaqbal 02:36, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

Will add the Urdu script. It is not Arabic. --Anas Salloum 09:05, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Beliefs of the Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement

Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement uses a different interpretation of prophethood as compared to the Ahmadiyya Muslim Comunity. The Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement believe Prophet Muhammad to be the last prophet. The Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement also does not declare other muslims to be "kafirs". "Mirza Qadiani" did not declare other muslims to be kafirs, it was his son who did so after his death. Please visit the Lahore movements official websites (http://www.aaiil.org/index.shtml and http://www.muslim.org/) for confirmation and further details.Nazli 06:18, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

The majority of Muslims consider Ahmedi Muslims to be outside the fold of Islam. However not all Muslims do so. Also both Ahmedi movements reffer to themselves officaill as "Muslims" and "Ahmedis". They hence need to be reffered to using these terms in wikipeida. The Qadiani is a colloquial term that has come into use and has derogatory connotations . The usage of this term is adequately mentioned and explained in the "Ahmedi" article.Nazli 07:03, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Qadianism

Anybody that gives any honorable status to Mirza Qadiani whether as prophet, nabi, or mujadid, messiah, mahdi, etc, is follower of Qadianism. You cannot believe in Mirza Qadiani in any shape or form and be a Muslim. The Lahoris are also followers of Qadianism.

Siddiqui 07:31, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

That may or may not be the case. From a Wikipedia standpoint it is immaterial - Its one point of view. You are free to perpetuate it, however not at the expense of opposing povs. Your point of view receives full attention and time in all articles related to Ahmedism/Qadianism. It it only fair that the opposing point of view be given as much importance.Nazli 08:03, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

--69.157.116.219 17:18, 4 January 2007 (UTC)== Ahmadi muslim movement in Islam should not be called quadiani ==

--69.157.116.219 17:18, 4 January 2007 (UTC)This is because it is not fair to call the other sect of ahmadi's quadiani. IT is obvious that all of the ahmadis in the world are from one town , theyre spread all over the world thats why it is disrespectfull to call all of the ahmadis quadiani.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.157.116.219 (talk) 17:16, 4 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Pro and Anti Ahmadiyya references are not NPOV nor are they entirely relevant.

This article seems to be about the Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement. However, most of the anti-ahmadiyya links are general to the Ahmadiyya movement as a whole, and there are a whole bunch of Ahmadiyya Muslim Community related links here, adn it seems very awkward.

I propose removing any links from the reference sections that are not specifically related to the Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement, and moving them to either the main Ahmadiyya page, or the AMC page, as appropriate. The references that stay should either be LAM sources, or AMC and other Muslim sources that specifically deal with LAM. Otherwise, this page is overwhelmed by a confusing mass of references that don't really relate.

This page should certainly not be a place to hash out the validity of the Ahmadiyya groups vis-a-vis the majority of Muslims. That can certainly be addressed on the Ahmadiyya page. --Christian Edward Gruber 21:06, 19 January 2007 (UTC)