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Contents 1 Comments 1.1 Comment 1.2 Etymology and False Information 1.3 How it's served 1.4 Names 1.5 Types of Lahmacun 1.6 Lahmajoun / Lahmacun is an Armenian food?! Please! 1.7 Pizza

[edit] Comments

[edit] Comment

A simple water and flour mixture which is the most primitive way to cook flour is a greek bread ? People like who edited this article are ruining wikipedia... Stop your desperate cultural disinformation attacks !

This page is rudely vandalised by 24.205.27.237 Lahmacun is not an Armenian food, not an Armenian word, and has not an Armenian cultural history. It has nothing to do with Armenia. Please WIKI do something to this brainwashing vandals who links everything to the Armenian Diaspora and tries to get attention. Even with articles about FOOD !!!!!

It's a fact. Lahmajoun is served in many places in the diaspora and called Armenian pizza by some, while called Turkish pizza by others. For example, in Laval, Quebec there is the Arouch "Pizza Armenienne" Bakery. Are you sure you're not the one who's trying to remove any evidence of Armenian contributions, history, and existence, even on articles about food? Hakob 03:06, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Yes.... but keep in mind only Armenian people call it an "Armenian Pizza". So, if that would be correct, than the Greeks are also right, because they say "Greek coffee" instead of "Turkish coffee" and "Dolmades" instead of "Dolma". But I'm not shocked by your reaction, Armenians are used to take over 'things' and 'places', like 'Karabag' for example which has even not an Armenian name...

No, not only Armenians call it that. As for Nagorno-Karabakh (which itself is a mixture of Russian and Turkish), we call it Artsakh. I'm afraid you've opened up a can of worms: Nakhichevan, which is controlled by Azerbaijan, is an Armenian name. Ani is an ancient Armenian city (and name) located within present day Turkey. Constantinople, Smyrna, Adrianople, Antioch, Alexandretta... I won't go on. :-) Hakob 10:21, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Yes, and the Armenians were one by one dropped by God from the sky to the place which is now known as Armenia... :p

You said it, not me. However, your argument concerning Nagorno-Karabakh (as well as lahmajoun) was weak and I pointed it out. Anyway, there is an article for Nagorno-Karabakh if you wish to contribute or make claims of vandalism. This article is about lahmajoun. Hakob 05:49, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Etymology and False Information

Lahmacun(macun=paste) is a persian oriented word. Has nothing to do with armenia or someting. Lahmacun has spread to the countries which were provinces of ottomans like ARMENIA. This does not make it armenian even they know and eat it.

Please, don't spread your false info here, we have enough POV pushers as it is.--Moosh88 00:37, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] How it's served

From my experience Lahmacun has been served rolled up (making the picture somewhat deceiving, although not incorrect). Perhaps mention could be made that it is served by rolling it up. Equating it with pizza will probably make people who haven't had it, assume it is eaten like pizza as well.

The place where I get Lahmacuns here in North London (the place where I took the picture) serves them rolled up with salad inside, sort of like a durum wrap. KennethJ 17:06, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Actually it's not served rolled up, since the person himself should add spices, lemon juice and vegetables and then roll it up himself. --GeorgeTopouria 08:58, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

it depends where you get it not in all places you can top them yourself ;)

[edit] Names

It would be great if someone could include the original Armenian and Arabic spellings (together with scientific rather than impressionistic transliterations) for the Armenian and Arabic words on this page. Angr/talk 13:27, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Types of Lahmacun

I am not exactly sure if there is an Armenian type of cooking but in Turkey, there are at leats two types of cooking (I only know the two). In my opinion these types should be mentioned and if there is Armenian type of cooking it should also be mentioned. I know Urfa style and Antep style. So new contributions are necesseray.

• Note on ingredients and preperation: I will welcome people who find my mistakes in language. Ugur Olgun 18:47, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lahmajoun / Lahmacun is an Armenian food?! Please!

Lahmajoun is NOT an Armenian food by any means. It is widely served in the Middle East countries such as Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Jordan, Egypt, etc. There are small Armenian communities in those countries which is how they picked it up. Some Armenians opened up pastry and bakery food shops in the West and started serving Lahmajoun. And what would you know? They began to take credit for it as being an "Armenian Food" -- please stop!

And for the record, Lahmajoun is an Arabic word not Armenian which really is pronounced like so "Lahm-bel-Ajoun" which means "Lahm" meaning "meat", "bel" meaning "with" and "Ajoun" meaning "pasta".

I know this because I am from the Middle East and speak both Arabic and Armenian.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.33.1.37 (talk) 14:32, 4 January 2007 (UTC).

What does this have to do with anything food can be served anywhere do you have any proof if its not Armenian? Nareklm 22:19, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Of course food can be served anywhere, but that's not my point. If Sushi is served in an Armenian neighborhood, can you claim that it is an Armenian food? Of course not. This Wiki article about Lahmajoun is doing just that, suggesting that Lahmajoun is an Armenian food when it is not. And since you asked "do you have any proof if its not Armenian?" then please tell why in the world the Armenian people decided to call this food "Lahmacun / Lahmajoun"; clearly an Arabic word?!

You need to re-read my earlier comment and the Wiki article about Lahmajoun. On Wiki, about Lahmacun, you will see the following, "sold in Turkey and Armenia" and "with sizeable Armenian and Turkish community". This is all false information because it implies that you will find Lahmajoun ONLY where you would find Turkish AND Armenian community. The truth is, you will find Lahmajoun ANYWHERE you find Middle Eastern community of ANY ethnicity, not just Armenian.

My problem with this Wiki article is that it is promoting "Armenia" instead of talking about Lahmajoun. It does so by linking Lahmajoun with Armenia and it categorizes this Wiki Article with Armenia. This Wiki article doesn't do any service to Lahmajoun. Just Google for "wiki lahmacun" and you will get hits of other Wiki pages in different languages; translate those pages and you will see the right information: no link or mention of Armenia.

This Wiki page needs a correction; to highlight what I said above. At the very least, the two quotes that I mentioned, should read: "sold in Turkey and the Middle East" and "with sizeable Middle Easter community". If you are going to mention Armenia, then you also have to mention other ethnicity of the Middle East community.

• You need to understand Lamajouh is served mainly to Armenians and Turks the word doesn't matter it means nothing you need references to claim whatever origin it is no one is claiming anything. Nareklm 19:59, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

No. What you just said is flat out wrong. Lahmajoun is served mainly in Turkey and the Middle East by and for Arabs, Turks and other Christian community beside Armenians. Your claim of "served mainly to Armenians and Turks" is totally false. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.33.1.37 (talk) 23:51, 18 January 2007 (UTC).

Thats wrong? through out Los Angeles and Boston most restaurants that serve lamjoh are Armenians or run by them ands its popular you need to state your references not your experiences. Nareklm 01:16, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes it is wrong, and did you just say "through out ..."?! Please, get real!! There are more Arab and non-Armenian Christens who make and sell Lahmajoun at Middle Eastern restaurant and bakery shops then there are Armenians once. In fact, even some Greek restaurants and bakery shops sell Lahmajoun.

You are asking me for fact, but you haven't shown your own facts or even your personal experience; you are the one who is making wild claims like the one you just made. For the facts, just Google for Middle Eastern food in the Los Angeles and Boston area (you picked those cities) and scan the hits.

I speak with personal experience and facts; and since you mentioned Boston, I will tell you that I live in Boston, who immigrated from Syria. In Syria, Turkey and the Middle East, it is very hard to find an Armenian owned restaurant or bakery shop. In the Boston area, of the many Middle Eastern restaurants and bakery shops, the once owned and operated by Armenians do sell Lahmajoun but so are virtually all other Middle Eastern bakery shops owned by non-Armenians. If you live in MA, check out Watertown and Winchester they have a good number of Middle Eastern bakery and most are not owned by Armenian. In fact, there is an Israelian restaurant in Winchester, MA that sells Middle Eastern food including Lahmajoun.

The fact remains, Lahmajoun is not an Armenian food, has nothing to do with Armenians and it can't be labeled as such. This Wiki page doesn't do justice to Lahmajoun at all.

Than it shouldn't label Turkish either its common for the term armenian or Turkish so chill no one is claiming lamajouh is Armenians. Nareklm 20:19, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Heres a reference "Arab Detroit: From Margin to Mainstream By Nabeel Abraham, Andrew Shryock" "Armenian Lahmajoun ("Armenian-style open face meat pie")" Nareklm 20:22, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

This would all be easier if the article just said it was from the Middle East. Also, where did you get that "reference". This is the internet, we need links, or at least a bibliography of a newspaper/book you got it from. CanbekEsen 20:36, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

That "Reference" is directly from the book i stated and that is a reference. Nareklm 20:44, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pizza

How is it differento from a pizza?--Error 17:13, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

It is very different, the article its self is self explanatory its just named pizza sometimes in some Middle eastern countries. Suroik 19:32, 14 February 2007 (UTC)