Talk:Lady Godiva

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Lady Godiva is also the patron saint of engineers - does anyone know more about where this comes from and care to add it to the article? -lommer 23:58, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Actually shouldent this be moved to Lady Godiva? G-Man 00:14, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)

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[edit] Domesday Book women

Godiva wasn't the only female landowner mentioned in the Domesday Book. There are two Anglo Saxon woman mentioned together in Wiltshire. Leofgyth, who was the widow of a citizen of London and later married Otto the goldsmith held Knook and another widow,Aelfhild, held Hartham.I'm sure there are others.

Queen Edith, Einarr's stepmother, Countess Judith, Queen (Matilda?), Siward the Priest's wife, Wulfgeat's wife, Wulfgeat's wife's mother and Wulffaed - Wulfgeat's mother, for example. This is without looking for feminine names such as Gytha and Leodflæd, or leaving Lincolnshire. (RJP 10:10, 26 July 2005 (UTC))

Is there actually more than one Godiva being discussed in this article? Surely the same Godiva who is alive in 1085 is not the same as the naked horse-riding Lady Godiva...I mean, "Godgifu" is probably not a rare name. Maybe I'm just confused by all the birth- and death-dates that currently appear in various places. Adam Bishop 05:29, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I too, have trouble with the dates. Chambers Biographical Dictionary gives her date of death as 1080. Hereward, who was not her youngest son, was born about 1035, which would make her about 55 at the time, if she was born in c.980. (RJP 10:10, 26 July 2005 (UTC))

Godiva did not have a son called Hereward, (I'm guessing you are referring to Hereward the Wake), she had a son Ælfgar and a daughter, (I have never been able to find conclusive evidence for her name). (Saliaria 21:35, 10 August 2006 (UTC))

Could anyone tell me the source for a daughter? Thanks.Liam guilar 23:29, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Historical Importance

Where is the historical importance of Lady Godiva? This should be a necessary part of the article. 12/21/05

Apart from her role as benefactress, wouldn't that be two fold? 1) In the family politics of Eleventh century England, although lacking the flamboyant dysfunction of the Godwines, her family played a crucial part in the events leading up to 1066. Her Grandaughter is the last Queen of Anglo-Saxon England, though Harold is thought to have married her to keep her brothers on his side and their inactivity (Godiva's Grandsons) after Hastings probably contributed significantly to the Norman take over. 2) The earliest latin version of the story of her ride could be used as evidence for how quickly Anglo-Saxon assumptions about the legal and financial rights of women had not only disapeared from the writer's culture, but were unknown to him. (The story of the ride makes no sense in the light of what is known about Godgifu's historical legal situation.)Liam guilar 23:44, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Patroness of Engineers?

What? Is this something particularly Eurpean or something? RJFJR 14:50, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

    Many Canadian engineering faculties use the Lady Godiva song (U of A and Waterloo for example).

[edit] Music Section

I notice a number of recent edits to to the music section of this article. Many of these are unclear, unspecific or sentence fragments. I also wonder how noteworthy a number of them are. An article probably shouldn't consist of a catalog of every time a mythological figure is mentioned.

Since a number of the citations appear to be very minor mentions of Godiva within a song, I would like to propose a removal of all songs other than ones which make major use of the Lady Godiva imagery. At this time this Appears only to be the Velvet Underground and the Peter and Gordon songs. (If any of the other songs are more significant, someone would have to elaborate to make their significance clear).

Thoughts? ~CS 22:27, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

A week and a half later and there have been no objections -- I'm going to be bold and go ahead and remove them. ~CS 01:50, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Looks like they're starting to creep back in :-/ --Co149 17:18, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

It's pretty difficult to discourage people from adding bits of trivia like this. I think that a bulleted list is an acceptable format; if it's unacceptably long it can be put into two columns or even broken out into a "List of musical references to ..." article. Think more in terms of channeling water, than damming it. ;-) --Dhartung | Talk 22:40, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
No, no, the real solution is to stop making songs about Lady Godiva :-) Seriously, I'm with you on the rechanneling idea. Maybe we can let it go for six more months or so to see how it develops, and just try to keep the punctuation in line. Godiva's pretty popular, maybe we'll get enough material to branch out by then. There's more than just music, too, and not yet any mention of a famous Dr. Seuss book. --Co149 03:09, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
...Except under "See also", where it might not belong. --Dhartung | Talk 04:00, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
I put it there because I recalled it was more of an original story than a retelling of the (one) Lady Godiva tale. I could be wrong. Powers 11:18, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Think it's time for another cull here? not only is the music section bloated again, but the other misceleny are filled with non-notible one-line references to the character. This article shouldn't be a depository for every reference ever made to Lady Godiva. ~CS 17:57, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Godiva ride"

What specifically does the École Polytechnique massacre have to do with the decline of "Godiva rides"? If I understand correctly, the perpetrator simply went into a building and started shooting. There is no indication (at least in the École Polytechnique massacre article) that this was during such a ride, that the EP ever held such rides, or that the resulting rise in Canadian feminism led to any specific action against such rides, either at the EP or elsewhere. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 151.204.105.10 (talk • contribs) .

[edit] Giddyap!

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I actually thought of putting this picture in there, as an example of a "Godiva ride", but it appears someone else beat me to the point with a painting of Godiva herself. — Rickyrab | Talk 00:49, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lady Godiva's Horse

Does anyone know the name of Lady Godiva's horse? This question appears in a crossword puzzle and we have not found the answer. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 208.251.36.2 (talk) 21:38, 25 January 2007 (UTC).

Aethenoth ClemMcGann 09:15, 12 February 2007 (UTC)