Talk:Lady Anne Stanley

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In the front page, someone (in the start) had confused two cousins. As the obvious intent was to write about THAT Anne Stanley who was potential heiress of Elizabeth I, the result is crap.

The correct heiress was:

Anne Stanley1 (F) b. May 1580, d. circa October 1647, #47549 Anne Stanley was the daughter of Ferdinando Stanley, 5th Earl of Derby and Alice Spencer.1 She was born in May 1580.1 She married, firstly, Grey Brydges, 5th Baron Chandos of Sudeley on 28 February 1607/8.1 She married, secondly, Sir Mervyn Tuchet, 2nd Earl of Castlehaven, son of George Tuchet, 1st Earl of Castlehaven and Elizabeth Noel, on 22 July 1624 at Harefield, Middlesex, England.1 She died circa October 1647 at Ruislip.1 She was buried on 11 October 1647. - Through her marriage, Anne Stanley gained the title of Countess of Castlehaven on 22 July 1624.

    Child of Anne Stanley and Grey Brydges, 5th Baron Chandos of Sudeley:
   Elizabeth Brydges   b. b 1619, d. c Mar 1678/79 

Citations [S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume III, page 86. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage. 217.140.193.123 19:08, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Heading

I believe she was not universally always known as Lady, and I believe she is recognizable without it. Therefore "Lady" shuld not be included in the article title (as the requirement for such inclusion is: person if universally recognised with it and their name is unrecognisable without it). It seems to me that recently, there has been sort of campaign by some users to put titulary into headings, without any solid support from naming conventions, and this here apparently is a part of such campaign. 217.140.193.123 02:33, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] A possible pretender today

Who is Lady Anne's senior living descendant today? He/she would be a potential pretender to the throne of England. Jess Cully 12:36, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

She has no living descendants. According to Arrigo, the heir-general of the Duchess of Suffolk is Michael Abney-Hastings, 14th Earl of Loudoun, who also happens to be the heir-general of George, Duke of Clarence and hence a pretender to the English throne twice over. Odd. I redacted that from his edits to the article — he has a tendency to stick in long recitations of the heirs-general to dubious claims — but if you want the info back in here, maybe I should revert that part of my edit. IMO the info would be best confined to the Earl of Loudon's page, and maybe Elizabeth I of England. Choess 05:19, July 26, 2005 (UTC)

Apparently no living legitimate descendants. We do not know of illegitimates. However they usually are not regarded as eligible to inherit. Regarding the question of heir general of Duchess of Suffolk, actually there are the two alternatives: whether Seymour (Beauchamp) was illegitimate or not, the heir general is either his heir or Stanley heir. The "heir general" of Anne Stanley is heir general of only Eleanor Brandon in sufficient certainty. re location, page of a person who actually was not very noteworthy without her more or less recognized claim, deserves to include to where that claim then evolved. Remember that that claim actually made this as an article. Arrigo 08:36, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

So is the Earl of Loudoun Eleanor Brandon's heir general? Jess Cully 11:13, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Neutral POV?

"lasciviousness and gross immorality" doesn't sound like a neutral POV to me.