Talk:La Liga

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I have tired to improve this article as has been suggested. I changed the intro and added some history. I think there is still room for further improvements. Some of the info tables are too long and hard on the eyes. I think La Liga de Fútbol Profesional would be a more correct title. However there are some language fascists who object to using Spanish titles. I can't understand why when the article is connected to Spain. Djln--Djln 21:58, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

1) Please WP:AGF, also, it is convention that forgein languages are not used on the english wikipedia, except for nouns, since they are not really expected, but you are welcome to use such a page structure on the spanish wikipedia. Should you want the article moving, it will need to be moved by an admin (cut and paste moves violate GFDL), and all double redirects corrected. Ian13ID:540053 22:04, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

I still don't understand why Spanish and or/other language names cannot be used as titles, especially when they are in common usage by English speakers and particularly when they are better known by these names even to English speakers. There are already numerous articles with Spanish language titles. Why is there an objection to this one. English is my first language but I still think these titles are more accurate. This applies particularly to articles on sports, e.g Copa del Rey, Copa del Rey de Baloncesto, Copa Libertadores, but I'm sure its relevent in other areas as well.Djln--Djln 22:45, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but they are as I have already mentioned nouns. La Liga is okay, or Spanish football league - however using a spanish name in the english Wikipedia for articles where english is accurate (ie. not a noun) just makes the harder to find and scearch for. Ian13ID:540053 16:57, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

yeh i agree, la liga as the title is fine, everyone in english calls it that

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[edit] Laudrup in 1990s

I've reinstated the Laudrup mention - there are numerous player mentions throughout the section (and article), then there's place for him too. After being voted 12th best Real Madrid player through 100 years, he certainly made an impact that year. Poulsen 23:50, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Laudrup

Laudrup was never elected European Footballer of the Year. Removed name from sentence.Djln--Djln 22:36, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of football clubs in Spain

I have transferred table with current La Liga clubs to above article. I think it is better placed there rather on this page. Djln --Djln 20:49, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Season 06/07

Anybody know ehen the new season start --Jaysscholar 16:18, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup needed

The article is a mess at the moment, and needs cleaning up. The lists of players are completely unnecessary. Having a separate subsection for every paragraph disrupts any notion of flow. The list of winners should be broken out into a separate article like Swedish football champions. Oldelpaso 20:24, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

  • This is one of the top leagues in the world, I believe a list of past and present players is more then appropriate. A list had already developed in paragraph form and it was just becoming longer and longer, at least this way it does not look cluttered. How can you have an article about La Liga without including a list of players and past winners ? However I think an article about La Liga Clubs in Europe might be a good idea and improve the flow. Too many articles have no subheadings at all and this makes them unreadable. At least this way readers can find what they are looking for with ease. Djln--Djln 22:34, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Primera Liga"

The term Primera Liga is not used in Spain, it is known as Primera División (note the paralelism with lower leagues). IMHO (please, point me to any WP conventions/rules this might break) using the form Primera División instead and adding a note regarding the Primera Liga usage in other countries/languages. --Outlyer 15:36, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stop deleting

Since it's inception, La Liga has been home to some of the world's best players and still currently does. Here is a breakdown of the past and present stars who have played and are currently playing in the Spanish La Liga.

who keeps deleting that line above, it's true la liga has been home to "SOME" of the worlds best players its obvious, its not a biased opinion its fact la liga has had some of the worlds best players, i could easily say IT HAS HAD THE BEST PLAYERS WHICH IS TRUE BUT I BEEN IMPARTIAL AND SAY "SOME" SO STOP DELETING.

and also stop deleting la liga clubs in europe from the front page, i understand their is a main article but that is for the list of finals, it is ok to have the main piece on the front page.


thank you :) sorry for shouting, but someone keeps doing it :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.210.23.47 (talk • contribs) 22:50, 4 December 2006 (UTC).

In 2006, all 3 nominees for the award were all La Liga players, Real Madrid defender Fabio Cannavaro came first, the now retired Real Madrid star Zinedine Zidane came second and Barcelona star Ronaldinho came third.

[edit] Respone to above

Since it's inception, La Liga has been home to some of the world's best players and still currently does. Here is a breakdown of the past and present stars who have played and are currently playing in the Spanish La Liga.

  • The above is poor editing, is badly written and adds nothing to article. This statement could be written about any of the major European football leagues and not just La Liga.
  • La Liga Clubs in Europe is a separate article. This article is about La Liga itself. There is no problem mentioning the fact that La Liga features two of Europes most successful clubs or that all three European trophies are currently held by La Liga clubs, but anything beyond this is excessive and should be confine to the main article about Europe.

In 2006, all 3 nominees for the award were all La Liga players, Real Madrid defender Fabio Cannavaro came first, the now retired Real Madrid star Zinedine Zidane came second and Barcelona star Ronaldinho came third.

  • I have no particular problem with the above although it goes into excessive detail. I did not remove this. Djln--Djln 16:19, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
  • PS. Please avoid leaving insults. This is not nice and makes Wikipedia look unprofessional.

ok just wanted an explanation. thank you.

[edit] Notable former star players

  • Beckham shouldn't be on the list as he still plays in the league. Maybe instead Figo and Ronaldo should be there? Drogo 21:55, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Figo and Ronaldo are already mentioned in section for award winners. That is why this list is called Other Notable.... Djln --Djln 14:10, 27 March 2007 (UTC)