Talk:La Fille Mal Gardée

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1 Concerns regarding fair use images
2 what is the big deal?
3 OH MY GOD
4 Figaro

[edit] Concerns regarding fair use images

Comments have been raised at Wikipedia talk:Fair use regarding the use and quantity of images used in this article under a fair use rationale. The concern is that many of the images may be unnecessary or redundant to one another, and if they are not each serving a separate and substantial informational value for the article, they do not comply with our fair use policies. Source information for some of the photographs is also not clear, making it ambiguous as to whether the fair use rationales are only for the performances depicted in the photographs, the photographs themselves, or both. It would be great if the article's regular contributors, being familiar with the subject matter, could help resolve these issues and explain the need for each fair use image. Thanks! Postdlf 21:06, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] what is the big deal?

This is an absolutely ridiculous argument. This seems like more of an issue of opinion to me than anything else - so what if there are alot of fair use images?

I am the sole author of this article, though some of my fellow wikipedians have done copy-edits and other corrections. I added the photos not for cosmetic purposes but for the desire to help elaborate on the subject matter. I'll for ahead and discuss my rationale for using these fair-use images in the article -

- These are the first dancers to perform the role of Lise and Colas (the lead roles of the ballet) in the important 1960 revival of the work by the choreographer Sir Frederick Ashton. The particular pose, costumes, and prop ribbon are almost looked at as being iconic to people familiar with this ballet, and I found it the perfect photo to start this article out with.

- This is a rare photo of the Kirov/Mariinsky Ballet's last production of La Fille Mal Gardee. This ballet company, known in Tsarist times as the Imperial Ballet, had the foremost hand in making this ballet an enduring member of the modern classical ballet repertory. The company's final prudction of La Fille Mal Gardee is discussed in the article and this image helps to elaborate on this.

- this photo is of the Royal Ballet's 1960 production of La Fille Mal Gardee. The photo show the part of the ballet known as the Fanny Elssler Pas de Deux, which is discussed in the article. The photo illustrates well the discussion.

- this photo is also from the Royal Ballet's 1960 production of La Fille Mal Gardee. It is of a part of the ballet known as the Clog Dance which is discussed in the article. The image illustrates the subject matter well.

- this photo is of dancers in the Paris Opera Ballet's production of La Fille Mal Gardee. This production is also discussed in the article, and the photo was added to help illustrate this.

- This photo is of Sara Lamb and Marin Hervey as Lise and Colas in the Royal Ballet's production. I added this photo to show dancers of today performing teh same number as the dancers in the old photos provided in the gallery. I suppose one could delete it, but I dont see why.

- This photo, along with the following two in teh gallery, illustrate the Royal Ballet's decor for their production which I think is a nice touch to an article which discusses this production in the considerable detail it does.

--Mrlopez2681 20:57, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Please do not lie. You are not the sole author of the article, nor have you been the major editor of the article — you merely swamped the article with your own edits, and, it would appear, attempted to make the article your own property.

Actually, I created the article, plus wrote the plot summary and added the characters list as well as the track listing for the CD (as well as donating the CD cover image for the section).

I am not impressed that you have taken credit for the article. The history of the creation of the article, plus the edits which have been made to the article, are clearly visible. Figaro 23:43, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] OH MY GOD

If anyone wants to to go through to see who wrote the bulk of the text of this article IT WAS ME.

You may have put in the track listing (it doesnt take much to copy a track listing from a CD), and the character list, and the plot summary.

The entire history of the ballet was put in by me. I apologize, I should have been more careful with my words, but 90% of what is in this article was put in by me.

I added in all of the details concerning the score, the history of the ballet, what recordings are available, all of the photos (with the exception of the CD cover......did you get that from amazon.com? If you did, I am the one who put the photo up on that page - before that I myself could never find an image on the web).

So anyway, before I did anything, all that was on this article was the plot summary, the track listing, and the characters. Look at the history Figaro. And yes, I have been the major editor of this article....look at the history. This article would be merely your track listing, character list, and plot summary. Anyone can find any of that info in a search engine.

--Mrlopez2681 04:18, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I had not intended to get into an 'edit war' with you. I merely commented on the fact that your claim to be the sole author of the article was false, and mentioned some of my contributions to the article. Like it, or not, the history of the article is available for all to see.

I did not say that you did not write the bulk of the text — in fact I said otherwise.

Because I dared to tell the truth, you have personally attacked me, and have also made defamatory comments against me — something which is not allowed on Wikipedia.

To comment on your slurs against me, I did not get my information from Google or from any search engine, as you have been accusing me of doing.

I wrote the plot summary from personal knowledge of the ballet. I have seen the ballet personally, live on stage, and I also have two different productions of the ballet on DVD (an English production and an Australian production). I also own the CD of the ballet and scanned the cover of the CD for the article, as well as typing the list of tracks from the CD information.

On a final note, the reason why I created the article in the first place was because I love the ballet, and I wanted to share the information about the ballet with other people because of this. And, it was for the love of the ballet that I also wrote the plot summary for the article. Figaro 06:29, 23 January 2007 (UTC)