User talk:Kvasir

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Put your signature here to be bookmarked! --Kvasir 06:08, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi!! I just placed one of your new year's day pics (sydney 2005) at the Society portal. --Mark 19:44, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Thankyou! What an honour! :) --Kvasir 02:30, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

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oi, sorry about that please Re-edit you prempted me so I put the older version wikified. GrazingshipIV 18:07, Apr 7, 2004 (UTC)

Hi. What work of fiction does Fyksland come from, I wonder? Morwen 18:20, Apr 7, 2004 (UTC)

- Hi. Yes it's a fictional country I've developed over the years with a constructed language. The language has been linked from the "Toki Pasiki" in the toki pona wikipedia page, so I figure I should write an entry for Fyksland and Fyksian. Just starting now. --Kvasir 18:49, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Right, well thanks for acknowledging that. You'll note I've listed it on Votes for Deletion. Wikipedia does have articles about fictional things, but this tends to be in a factual way, and we tend to try to discourage people writing their own original fiction here. Morwen 18:52, Apr 7, 2004 (UTC)
Ah ok, sorry about the spam then. Just read the article on fiction and will move the content to wikifiction asap. --Kvasir 19:05, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Thanks for being so reasonable about this. You wouldn't believe the trouble we get [sometimes people insist their palpably fictional things are actually real]! Morwen 19:09, Apr 7, 2004 (UTC)

Actually, since you know something about it, could I get your opinion on whether Toki Pona language should have an article? It's only three years old... so I'm wondering if it's a notable conlang or just someone promoting their work here. Isomorphic 19:13, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I'm the last person to be asked when it comes to wikipedia policy. I don't know what the policy is for conlang. There are a few conlang projects on wikipedia already. --Kvasir 19:26, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Hey, Ksavir, don't you want to vote to save your article at VfD? Wiwaxia 13:00, 30 Apr 2004 (UTC)

WOW looks like there are interest out there to keep Fyksland alive, at least in the Wikipedia world. What I don't get is why is this back on VfD after 1 or 2 weeks. --Kvasir 19:24, 1 May 2004 (UTC)

[edit] HKWNB, HKCOTW, Current events

Hi. I noticed you have edited some Hong Kong-related articles. You might be interested to take a look at HK wikipedians' notice board, HK Collaboration of the Week and Current events in Hong Kong and Macao. Happy editing! — Instantnood 05:57, Apr 21, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Portugal

I didnt delete your info, it was changed to Portuguese Empire were it should be. Angola, Mozambique etc. were made has part of Portugal during Salazar's regime. Portugal do Minho a Timor (Portugal from the Minho Region to East Timor). Are you sure that list is the complete Portuguese Empire? -Pedro 13:44, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

This list is from info i gathered from the World Statesmen site, there could be more that should be on the list. An independent check needs to be made. Where possible i usually checked with related wikipedia articles in terms of dates and status. Where wikipedia lack info i could only go by what world statesmen says. --Kvasir 13:48, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Sorry for not explaining. I wouldnt delete all that useful and correct info!!! that would be vandalism. But it was clearly missplaced. -Pedro 14:03, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
No problem. But yeah that was my initial impression heh. Didn't know there was a Portuguese Empire article when i added the stuff and couldn't find a good place for it. It is in a more suitable home now. --Kvasir 14:09, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Fyksland as been deleted!

Sorry, I've done my best. Anyway, it temporarily moved its contents to http://conlang.wikicities.com/wiki/Fyksland . Just to let you know. Best, IJzeren Jan 14:17, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your interest and support. I'll try to add more content there though. I've always been afraid to add stuff on the wiki article in fear that people would put it back on VfD again. But seems like this time it was a non-issue. When was this decided anyway? --Kvasir 22:42, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
Three days ago. Look here. Note that this VFD came as part of a whole series of conlang VFDs (apart from Fyksland, against Aingeljã, Brithenig, Breathanach, Verdurian, DiLingo and my own Wenedyk. Look at the various discussions, they are pretty interesting. Anyway, Fyksland, Breathanach, Aingeljã and DiLingo didn't make it. Especially interesting is the way the votes were counted: in the case of Fyksland it was 14 for Delete and 11 for Keep. But four of the keepers were discounted for IMO doubtful reasons, thus giving 14D/7F, the lowest possible margin for "rough consensus" and therefore deletion. Note that all Aingeljã, DiLingo and Breathanach are currently on Wikipedia:Votes for undeletion. Frankly I think Fyksland should be in there, too. The reason I haven't put it there yet is that I managed (only fifteen minutes before the articles was deleted, imagine) to copy its content to the Conlang Wiki. --IJzeren Jan 07:14, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
I just issued an undeletion request: Wikipedia:Votes for undeletion#Fyksland. --IJzeren Jan 08:33, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Special member state territories and their relations with the EU

  • Good work on the table- it really improves the article! Astrotrain 16:28, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, and thanks for fixing some of the typos and mis-information from copy and pasteing the rows. --Kvasir 23:32, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 五, 伍 etc.

Hello, I was wondering what source you saw that says 五 is pronounced as [m̩] and not [ŋ̩] ? It seems to me that most if not all of the dictionaries out there say that both are pronounced as [ŋ̩]. -- KittySaturn 23:12, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

I think that *I* am part of the great phonologic shift happening in HK and overseas Cantonese speakers. Many Hong Kongers make no distinction between 五 and 唔 except in tone. I do, however, distinguish between 五/唔/伍 and 吳. See Standard Cantonese under Current Phonological Shift. I should put a note on the HK government Cantonese Romanization article. I think that particular 五分州 example is still relevant though since the article does deal with HK pronunciation. I believe some dictionaries do list both [m̩] and [ŋ̩] as possible pronuncations as well. www.cantonese.ca does show [m̩] as a pronunciation for 五. Unfortunately I have no access to a printed dictionary right now. --Kvasir 04:26, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
I know about the phonological shift, of course. I have seen many Cantonese dictionaries in Hong Kong since I grew up reading them all the time, and I haven't seen one that lists [m̩] as a pronunciation, though I wouldn't be surprised if a very small number of them do list it. Also, I have not heard people distinguishing between 五 and 吳; if someone says 五 as [m̩] they would also say 吳 as [m̩]. I say both as [ŋ̩] and only 唔 as [m̩].
As for the cantonese.ca site, I must say that one would not use it as a reference: I think it is a sloppy site. A year or two back, I had chatted online with the author of that site, and she herself is a foreign learner of Cantonese who imitates the few Cantonese-speaking friends she has around her. She told me that she wanted to learn Cantonese as young people speak it (I think it also says so on the site), but she seems to believe that, for example, all the "young people" pronounce 國 as gok3 (8) instead of gwok3 (8), which is definitely not true. Only a few of my friends say it as gok3, even though almost all of them say the sloppy 你 as lei5.
In any case, even if a source or two says so, I would say that [m̩] is not mentioned in most publications. At least in Hong Kong, dictionaries have not incorporated sound shifts in pronunciation guides: 你 is always nei5 (not lei5), 國 is always gwok3 (not gok3), 五 is always ng5 (not m5). -- KittySaturn 16:16, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] bounty from bounty-hunting?

Can you document the assertion you put on the HMS Pandora page? That numbered IP is not the only one who is skeptical. I am skeptical too. There are a bunch of explanations that sound plausible, but aren't true. POSH == Port Outbound Starboard Home. That "Cold enough to squeeze to balls off a brass monkey" has a nautical connection. This sounds like another plausible sounding explanation that can't be substantiated... -- Geo Swan 10:40, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Calgary Wikipedia Meetup Reminder

The first Wikipedia Meetup in Calgary is this Monday, May 15, starting at 5pm(ish) at the Good Earth Café in Connaught (1502 - 11 Street SW; Just down from 17 Avenue on 11 Street). —GrantNeufeld 20:32, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Macau Separation barrier

Hello,

I noticed you added the fact "340 metre border" to the Separation barrier article again. Are you absolutely sure that the border is only 340 metres long ? - 340 m seems extremly short. Travelbird 21:34, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

See Geography of Macau which seems like it's extracted from the CIA world fact book under Land boundary. https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/mc.html --Kvasir 23:41, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for providing the source. I'm still a bit sceptical, but since I can't find a better source, I'll leave the arcticle as it is for the time being. Travelbird 02:54, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
I would suggest checking out maps with the scale provided. The northern front is no more than a few kilometres (at most 5) long anyway. Most of that distance are delimited by a body of water which may or may not have been reclaimed recently. --Kvasir 03:58, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] cOMPLIMENT

NICE PHOTOS!

Thankyou, whoever you are. :) --Kvasir 06:08, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Celine Dion

Hi. I noticed that you reinstated some of the information into "Celine Dion." I have reverted it because I find the additional infomation superfluous. It would work well in an article about Air Canada and endorsements, but not in "Celine Dion." As a featured article, it needs to stay clear of unnecessary detail and unsourced generalities.

I also noticed that you italised a song title: you changed "You and I" to You and I. However, the former is the correct format, and on this note, I have also reverted this edit. Thanks for your contribution to the article. I urge you to continue. Orane (talk • cont.) 02:41, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Well it's unsourced because most of the mainstream news articles are now out of date given it's been 2 years since the event.
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So there, it's sourced.
On the point of it being superfluous, I would have to say this controversy directly related to Dion herself. For the airline, it wasn't controversial because they had a celebrity endorsement but the fact that they chose Dion, whose appearance doesn't come particularly cheap. So yes, this has everything to do with her. Whether it's superfluous or not is strictly one's opinion. Let me remind you the paragraph was in the article at the time it was featured. That means that bit of information contributed to the fact that it was featured.
I also question why we are having this discussion here in my personal talk page instead of the article talk page. To limit others from participating I suppose? --Kvasir 03:02, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
First, I did not state that the controversy did not affect Celine Dion herself. I stated that it was unnecessarily explored in the article. There are many things that have affected Celine Dion in her life time, but that does not mean that they deserve to be placed in her biography. Yes, it may have been there at the point of promotion, but as you can see, the article has improved/changed much since that time, and I have realised that the point is simply "unnecessary detail" (which is against criterion number-four in the featured article clause).
Second. I raised the issue on your talk page because I thought it was appropriate. I use article talk pages when there are major issues with the article, with no clear indication as to who made the edits etc. In this case, I reverted some edits that you made, and I thought it would be polite to personally notify you. Nothing more. If you want to move our discussion to the talk page, then be my guest. But don't assume anything about my actions. Orane (talk • cont.) 14:11, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:010105 fireworks2.jpg

Just to let you know I've uploaded your image to Wikitravel. I know it will definately be used on the German and English language versions. -- Sapphire 02:20, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Sorry to hijack an already existing section but it fit :) anyway, in regards to this image I have had to revert back to the public domain license, since according to Wikipedia:Image copyright tags and Wikipedia:Granting work into the public domain public domain release is irrevocable. If you dispute this, please comment at Wikipedia talk:Image copyright tags#Licensing issue (Wikipedia talk:Image copyright tags/archive8#Licensing issue when it finally disappears into the archive). --WikiSlasher 07:10, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Would it then be possible to upload a different version of the image under a new license? --Kvasir 07:44, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
I think it would be OK. But you should probably upload it under a different name. --WikiSlasher 09:04, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Calgary Wikipedia meetup

Just a reminder that the Calgary Wikipedia meetup is this Sunday, 2pm, at Haymarket Café (1101 Macleod Trail SE). —GrantNeufeld 03:26, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please clarify or reword a Multiple citizenship edit

It may be that I am especially dense today, but I can't figure out the final sentence of Example 8 in Multiple citizenship. The sentence reads "Controversially, this would have contradict his PRC citizenship.", and has survived unchanged since you added that example (then numbered Example 9) several revisions ago. -- Boracay Bill 03:36, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Ah yes, this would require an understanding of Political status of Taiwan. Also see Legal status of Taiwan. Basically, both PRC and ROC regards itself the only legitimate government of China legally speaking, and has claim to the WHOLE of China. But for almost 60yrs neither governments has acted formally towards separation or reunification. Perhaps you would like to include link on the Multiple citizenship article to clarify this. --Kvasir 04:03, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chinese kinship

Hello. It is an honour to meet the person who created the "Chinese kinship" article. I have re-changed the information on the "Chinese kinship" article to its state before you edits. It seems that it is lacking maternal relations when it comes to extended family members (e.g. mother's mother's sister's daughter) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Daniel Hu (talk • contribs) 18:06, 12 March 2007 (UTC).

Thankyou for your interest in the subject. However, please do not indiscriminately revert all edits. The section are currently organised according to the western cousin chart as it is an English article. Grandnephews, nieces, uncles and aunts etc are beyond the 1st nine cells on the cousin chart and as such has been in the Larger extended family and terminology section. All these infomation were already in the article when 74.112.94.86 did his/her reorganisation. If you have other suggestions for the organisation of these terms, please address them in the Talk Page of the article. Thanks. --Kvasir 18:26, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chinese New Year discussion board

You should be looking at what was deleted. It was too cluttered and disorganized. Some postings were dated back as old as 2005. Deleting postings that no longer invite response should be justified.Dat789 23:00, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually it is customary to archive old postings. See Wikipedia:How to archive a talk page. They provide reference and the reasons behind some of the improvements that were made. If they appear to be disorganised, go ahead and organise them and it's ok to reorder them. I have actually read some of the deleted postings, some were constructive criticism about the article and are still very much relevant. --Kvasir 23:38, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
As you the article have mentioned, '...provide reference...behind some of the improvements that were made'. Do you think asking help from fellow Wikipedians how to cook or inform him/her about Chinese cultures is helpful to the purpose of Wikipedia especially in this article of Chinese New Year? Some of those postings are not even relevant to the article at all, what more about being outdated. If you see Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines#How_to_use_article_talk_pages, you'll notice one or more items listed says stay objective, or deal with facts, keep on topic, etc. You'll get the drift. I've stated my points, but if you insist in reverting to the originals I will insist back. It is archived anyway in Wikipedia (in the History tab)!-- Dat789 10:19, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Hong Kong Invitation

Dear User:Kvasir,

Thank you for your contributions to Hong Kong-related articles!

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Looking forward to working with you! Luke! 03:27, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

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