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    [edit] Peer Review

    Well documented, well linked to the other wikipedia entries; no comments there. Biography needs improvement, as she would have been 9 years old in 3rd grade (1989) and the biography doesn't resume until 2000. One question arrose for me while I was reading the article: Why did producers stick with her even though her singles continually flopped? -- Nictius 14:59, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] When editing this page

    When you are trying to add some useful information to this entry, kindly check that the page has not been vandalized so that we do not later have to reverse it to the page it was before the vandalization took place. Thank you. Chsf 11:47, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

    [edit] Discography

    At the moment separate pages for the singles are under construction. --Chsf 19:49, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

    [edit] New singles

    When posting titles of yet-to-be released singles, you must state whether the title has been confirmed or not - and if hasn't, then you must quote your sources! Chsf 13:23, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

    [edit] Music stub

    How is this page still a stub? Robaato 09:54, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

    Good question, how much more crucial information is there to add about her, if any? Anyone else in favor of removing the "music stub" tag? Chsf 17:28, 10 December 2005 (UTC)


    [edit] New Singles' Names

    On her official website you can find the names to some of her new singles. - ShinigamiNiko 15 December 2005


    [edit] Single Sales

    I suggest adding the single sales to the main page. I have all of Koda's album and single sales number according to Oricon, but is it suitable for the page? -M_C

    Do you mean the total or the single by single? Because the latter is to be found on the individual singles.
    chsf, 19 December 2005

    [edit] Chart positions

    For the last time, the information presented is for weekly rankings, not daily. Daily sales do not mean anything in the long run. Please refrain from mentioning anything about daily sales in the discography from now on. Soulsteelgray 00:56, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

    On Ayumi's page we just made it so there is a part of daily and weekly ranking for albums, why dont you guys do that? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Impracticable (talk • contribs) 23:20, 3 April 2007 (UTC).

    [edit] More Complete Biography and Profile

    I've added a more complete Biography of Kumi from her childhood to the release of "Secret", I put all the info I know about her in here, I'm sure it helps to her article.

    I've also added some info from her profile which is in her official website. Clouded 02:03, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

    Profile moved to Trivia and I removed information that was already repeated once or twice in the article (statistics like date and place of birth, artist and given name etc.). I also added the original quote, now I only wish someone could verify that the translation and the original Japanese quote are saying the same thing! - chsf 12:54, 2006/02/28 (UTC)
    Well, if you wanted to change "Profile" to "Trivia" I guess it's Ok, but that information has to before the biography, not at the ending of the article next to the discography, that doesn't make sence, and also must have those info like her real name and birhdate and birthplace. The "Favorite Quote" i guess it was wrong, even the translation, sorry about that. When I know the correct meaning i going to put that again. Clouded 20:01, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
    No, it makes perfect sense, "Trivia" goes at the end of the biographical part of the article, and what is the use in repeating the same information trice? — chsf 00:03, 2006/03/02 (UTC)
    chsf, well, this is a free encyclopedia, so if you want to change it, change it. But you deleted her real name from the whole article. Clouded 16:50, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

    In March '06 Koda Kumi recieved artist of the month from MTV JAPAN (http://www.mtvjapan.com/music/aom/) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.13.99.2 (talk • contribs) .

    [edit] Get It On -- not a single

    Get It On is not an officially released single. It's available only for download via cell phones. Soulsteelgray 21:51, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

    I'm not too into Kumi's career, but a saw at her homepage that "Get It On" it is a single, but a virtual one, marked as the "00" single of the ~12 single collection~. I don't if this info helps. Clouded 15:30, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
    "Get It On" was credited as single, because it is one (but an "online" one) ;). Clouded 00:50, 6 March 2006 (UTC)


    [edit] Name

    Once again, someone has been changing around Kumi's surname. Seems some people aren't aware what her actual surname at birth was. Would be good if someone could once and for all clarify what she was born as and then keep a look out in future for people changing it.

    The person who wrote this, needs to read this Manual of Style (Japan-related articles). Please read that. The Kōda must be used instead of the Kouda. When you romanizes Japanese names of that kind you don't put the full extrict pronunciation (Like in Ootsuka Ai you only put Otsuka Ai ~(and so does she) -- or Itou Ichirou writes his name (himself does that -- and everyone does also) Ichiro Ito . Clouded 00:32, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

    So her name should be written as Kumi Koda, her name as a performer (geimei/芸名), as it is in the title of the article, but shouldn't she be referred to as Koda instead of Kumi? That's like referring to Prime Minister Koizumi as Junichiro instead of saying "Koizumi was born in..." Or like saying "George" instead of Bush, and so on. Keipop 21:20, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

    The article was written by her fans, that's why. I changed "Kumi" to "Koda." Annoying stuff. mirageinred 19:23, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
    You are confusing fans with otaku. -- Chsf 17:18, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
    I see. Well, they're so friggin annoying. mirageinred 19:30, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] Great article, but...

    It has no references! I see unsourced claims in nearly every sentence. This article is very well written but it has nothing to substantiate it. Axem Titanium 00:44, 4 September 2006 (UTC)


    [edit] Musume Audition

    This page list Kumi as auditioning for Musume's fourth generation however, the Musume page said she audition for third...Anyone know the correct version? --TheReverendDoom 15:09, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

    Okay I referenced the Japanese wiki and it says she auditioned for the third generation. I will make the edit. --TheReverendDoom 15:17, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] Dating Shingo?

    I'm watching the August 24, 2006 episode of "Utaban" right now and there's a significant mention of Koda Kumi dating Katori Shingo from SMAP (by Shingo himself and the other members of SMAP). Any other verification before it can be added? Kenzilla

    [edit] The page needs major help.

    When writing a formal article/writing it is common sense to avoid using one's first name! Use her surname instead. Using first names make it sound way too casual. It is also very obvious that fans are contributing to this page, and I mean this in a bad way. Please keep it NPOV! mirageinred 22:40, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] This page needs to be cleaned up...

    Reading through the page, the biography of Koda Kumi is nicely done, but like others, I'm worried about the fact that it barely ever cites where the author of the edits got their info. So, I've been trying to collect up sources for to back up such info, but most of them are outdated and have plainly put, been lost to time. I wanted to make sure JP articles are fine to cite, even though this is an English article. For example:

    She commented confidently, "It was a first time experiment for me, but I was able to convey how both happiness and sadness are two sides of the same coin." [citation needed]

    The source for that comment is within in this Sanspo article. Would it be okay to use it? --XaiTerran 08:36, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

    EDIT: Oh well, I edited the page anyway (just the Black Cherry era part). If there are mistakes I've done or missed, please inform me of it. I'll try to cite more articles to back up the information on this page, but it will be hard since there is practically nothing on her existence before 2005.

    --XaiTerran 10:10, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] Still tagged?

    I think the article is ready to have the tags taken off it, even though I'm not finished revising it. I made sure I cited as much as info as I could in the sections I revised (grow into one --> Black Cherry & Awards & Accomplishments).

    Unfortunately, there is basically nonexistent info for Koda before secret. It was really hard finding any sources for secret, if anything. How should the article before secret be handled?

    XaiTerran 05:47, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] This info was removed...

    The following sentence was removed from the article

    (Surname: Koda, First name: Kumiko (shortened: Kumi), Nickname: Kuuchan)

    That was done by 75.16.78.215, who commented "no." in the edit summary field. Anyone has any opinions/suggestions regarding this removal, which I believe is unecessary?

    — 0612 (TALK); Posted: 03:57, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

    HER NAME IS ALREADY IN THE INFOBOX. It doesn't need to be repeated again and again. How do you know Kuuchan is her nickname? Everything's in the infobox, you don't need to clutter up the article. The fact that the "sentence" was even there in the first place is unecessary, not it being removed. ― Sturr ★彡 Refill/lol 20:49, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] Recent Adding Information Dispute

    Whoever keeps adding the small trite name information between "Kumi Koda" and "is a female Japanese pop singer." needs to stop it. Her alias and name change are already listed in the info box next to the introductory paragraph. So please, STOP ADDING THAT USELESS INFORMATION. It's been removed several times for a reason. -- XaiTerran 20:22, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] Vandalism

    With recent vandalism by crazy pathetic Ayumi Hamasaki fans with absolutely no time on their hands, and also annoying minor edits of irrelevant information by anonymous IPs, it would be a wise idea for this article to be locked and give exclusive privileges to certain users to edit this page.

    -XaiTerran 03:46, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

    Yes, that'll be a good idea. — 0612 (TALK); Posted: 10:50, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
    It needs to be repeated vandalism, because I tried to get both articles protected and the admin declined due to the fact that there isn't enough evidence of the horrible edits. ― Sturr ★彡 Refill/lol 03:41, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
    Oh boo. I'm also disliking the edits from unregistered users, adding trifle information without citing properly or just superfluous information that either doesn't fit the article stylistically or is just plain superfluous. XaiTerran 19:39, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
    Just because Ayumi fans are willing to do anything for theur favorite .. dont be h8in. Anyway, I'm not jsut an Ayumi Hamasaki fan, but also an Ai Otsuka fan. and i only do it because Kumi Koda hasnt got the talent of either of them. Anyway, it dosent matter. Ku is at the bottom of the ladder. Just look at the Recent BEST by All. So far the sales are ... A Best 2 | Ayumi Hamasaki = Nearly 1.3 Million Sold / Nearly 2 million shipped ... Ai Otsuka | Ai am BEST! = 400,000 Koda Kumi | BEST ~Bounce & Lovers~ = 200,000. So i dont care about making kuu look bad on wikipedia anymore. (Impracticable 03:59, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
    Oh I'm sorry, but A BEST 2 sold poorly. Combining two different CDs to make one giant sale? Doesn't work, buddy. Ayumi's the one with no talent, retard.

    Plus, B&L is a limited edition album. Good one again! Find something better to do. XaiTerran 10:15, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

    I said, even if you seperate them, on their oiwn they bothh have more. and it says it in the article yourself, you can get B&L until April. So i geuss that means its limited i time to get it, not limited made. Even if it is limited, Ayumi's old limited release single sold more than that. So what, koda's sales suck. And if Ayu has no talent, why is she the best selling japanese female and solo artist of all time, wth average sales per year of 5 million? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Impracticable (talk • contribs) 23:18, 3 April 2007 (UTC).
    Roffles, you wanna talk sales? Let's take a look at their last original albums. Oh wait, Black Cherry totally beat the crap out of Ayumi's Secret. And how much did Secret sell again? :) Oh, and might I remind you that Koda's tour/concert DVDs outsell Ayumi's? Yeah. Guess the person the general public thinks has more talent. -XaiTerran 05:16, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
    Roffles your mom. I'm geussing you don't know how high the international sales of Secret are? its her best selling internation album. Which means it had to seel at KLEAST over 1.5 million internationally. NHow who beat the crap out of who, moron? do oyur research. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Impracticable (talk • contribs) 15:04, 8 April 2007 (UTC).
    You know what? This is a really retarded discussion. If you want to comfort yourself with sales, go ahead. It's not any basis for why any artist is good, better, or whatever. -XaiTerran 07:13, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

    Seriously, people. If you hate Koda Kumi then just ignore her, if you love Ayumi then go and love her. Why get into conflict? — 0612 (TALK); Posted: 08:19, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

    Nooo lives. D: -XaiTerran 05:16, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
    See look, im a good Kumi hater. I took out a vanadlism on her opage that said "She wishes she was Ayu Hamasaki!" see, im not always a bad person. I'm a hood little kumi hater.

    [edit] discography edit

    i made a thing in the discography section. since im not a koda fan, there are probably tons of mistakes. go fix it up. i put it there so you guys have a template kind of. it a nice thin we have on ayumi's wiki —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Impracticable (talk • contribs).

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