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[edit] Age category

Hello! If you are receiving this message, that means that your user page is in a specific year category. Per a recent user-category per deletion, all specific year categories are to be deleted. If you wish to continue using year categories, you have two options:

If you wish, you may do both. Hopefully, this change in categorization will be quick and painless. Happy editing! --An automated message from MessedRobot 13:02, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cypriot First Division 2006-07

Hi, with your football knowledge background I thought you might be interested in contributing to this article. Cypriot First Division 2006-07 Regards, StephP 20:00, 10 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Re:Bulend Biščević

At the very least, the Croatian First League should be considered fully professional, especially since Biščević played for Hajduk Split, one of the country's top two clubs which is on par with many other professional clubs around Europe. --Thewanderer 15:58, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Like I said, the Croatian First League is fully professional. However, there is a noteable difference between the budget of top clubs (such as Hajduk) and lower level clubs, as in all leagues. --Thewanderer 00:42, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Don't "sub-categorize" footballers

Hello. May I ask you not to "sub-categorize" footballers by removing the nationality categories, such as Category:English footballers, even when they are included in a sub-category such as Category:England international footballers or Category:English football biography stubs. The standard practice is to always include them in the super-category concerning its nationality. Thanks. Chanheigeorge 00:18, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Please read Wikipedia:Categorization and subcategories#Incomplete sets of subcategories. The case of these footballers obviously satisfy the criteria. So duplication is preferred. Chanheigeorge 19:36, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Etienne Barbara afd

You are correct — the afd notice should not have been removed from the Etienne Barbara article until the discussion is complete. As the discussion had not yet been closed, I've restored the tag and informed the editor who deleted the tag that this was not the proper procedure. The discussion remains open. — ERcheck (talk) 11:24, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

The process was not followed in this case. However, I suggest that you take note of the discussion on the afd page. The standard for inclusion of players is not their team standing. Etienne Barbara meets the standards of notability for athletes. It is likely that if you continue to nominate such articles for deletion, this will be taken as bad faith and WP:POINT. — ERcheck (talk) 11:33, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

In response your inquiry about the WP:BIO page. Note that this page contains guidelines (not rules) — what has been generally found to be consensus by the Wikipedia community. Note that in the introduction to the section that contains the quote you provided on "Athletes", there are these paragraph:

"The following criteria make it likely that sufficient reliable information is available about a given person. People who satisfy at least one of these criteria may merit their own Wikipedia articles, as there is likely to be a good deal of verifiable information available about them and a good deal of public interest in them."
"This list is only a guideline, and should not be used an absolute test of notability; each article should stand or fall on its own merits."

This means that the community consensus has been that athletes who meet the listed criteria have been found to be notable. It does NOT mean that those criteria are the requirements for notability. It seems that there are many editors who find that an athlete who is on their national team is sufficiently notable to have a Wikipedia article.

As to your question about a single administrator making a decision about deletion — it is the case for Article that meet speedy deletion criteria — an adminstrator can delete without the article being placed on AFD for discussion. However, in most cases, if an article goes to WP:AFD, it does not meet speedy deletion criteria — and consensus is sought from the community, not just from administrators. — ERcheck (talk) 23:19, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia talk:Notability (people)#Regarding notability of Football (soccer) players

Hi, seeing you have been involved in previous Afd debates I invite you to contribute to this discussion to clarify certain issues about football player notability. I think clearer guidelines are needed to avoid repeated inappropriate nominations for deletion and time consuming discussions. Cheers! StephP 17:29, 29 March 2007 (UTC)