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[edit] Koryu List

Your list of koryu schools is not complete. You should ad the school "Yagyu Shingan Ryu" to the list. This school is also mentioned at www.koryu.com with a short description to it.

The list at koryu.com is also incomplete. I don't think it makes much sense to have a huge list of redlinks here. jni 10:59, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Agreed. There have been many koryu founded since the earliest records (Maniwa Nen-ryu is first, IIRC), and there are still hundreds extant today. It's inappropriate to list them all here, particularly if they lack non-stub articles. Better to just list the well known ones and others that have been linked already. However, I think that Yagyu Shingan-ryu is fairly well known for koryu so it deserves to be listed. — Jéioosh 06:03, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

As per the discussion - I've removed the red links. There is a reference for a more complete list and frankly if its important enough its worth writting at least a stub.Peter Rehse 08:43, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Romanization

The preferred romanization used on the KSSR websites is "Kashima-Shinryu" as opposed to "Kashima Shin-ryu."

I think for this article it's best to keep the romanization practice the same for all names. For that particular article romanizing it in their preferred manner would be appropriate. — Jéioosh 06:03, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Isshin-ryu and the works

Should Isshin-ryu be part of this? It was founded in 1953. That's much later than the Meiji era. alden7 9/22/05

Well, I thought I'd heard of an Isshin-ryu koryu, but whether or not such a thing exists the article is about a modern karate ryu. Removed. — Jéioosh 06:08, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

There is a koryu system named Isshin-ryu. It is a kusarigama school that has since been subsumed into the corpus of Shinto Muso Ryu Jojutsu, and it taught, along with other schools such as Uchida-ryu, etc. I believe that you can find more information at this website:

http://www.koryubooks.com/guide/isshin.html

Hope this helps - JStraub

Yes as mentioned above, there are two systems of Isshin-ryu. One koryu and one modern karate-system. The original Isshin-ryu was setup like a regular bujutsu-system of the time with multiple weapons included. For reasons I'm not familiar with, the Isshin-ryu main system was abolished, maybe through the death of it's headmaster with no complete menkyo kaiden. Since only the kusarigama element was retained in Shinto Muso-ryu it might be one possibility. Regardless, now only the Isshin-ryu kusarigamajutsu part survives of the original Isshin-ryu bujutsu system. So technically Isshin-ryu is dead with only Isshin-ryu kusarigamajutsu remains as a koryu. On the kusarigama article there is a brief history-section of Isshin-ryu as well. I'm changing the entry as to reflect this since Isshin-ryu Karate doesn't qualify for koryu status. Fred26 10:28, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suihasu-ryu

I just fixed it up for format and language - not judging one way or the other but I did notice that the original writter says he's the 14th Soke and gives his birth date as 1985. Totally possible I know but then again .... Peter Rehse 07:25, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shindo Yoshin ryu - two articles

Someone has created a Shindo Yoshin-ryū article. There already is an entry on this particular ryu found under the name Shindo Yoshin Ryu. Fred26 12:23, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Promotion to B class

Add a couple of picis and this article can be promoted to B-class.Peter Rehse 06:39, 17 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Propose merge Kobudo into Koryu

I have proposed a merger of the existing Kobudo article into the Koryu article. In my personal opinion the Kobudo article is reduntant since Kobudo and Koryu differs little from each other and what little information contained in the former can easily be squeezed in as a paragraph in Koryu together with an clarification on the Kobudo/Koryu differences. Please note, I'm not talking about Okinawan kobudo, (with karate, bojutsu, tonfa and so on), which already has an excellent article. Any comments? Fred26 08:01, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

As I understand it, they're synonymous. No protest here. — Gwalla | Talk 20:01, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merger complete

Merger complete, kobudo is now a disambig-page with the edit-history preserved there. Fred26 10:38, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

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