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[edit] Lethbridge

[edit] LA map

Love the new map on Lethbridge. Do you think you could add the Indian Reserves to it? Kevlar67 02:24, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

I thought about it, but left them out. I will try to add them. I am also working on a city map. I hope to have them up tomorrow. Glad you like it. --Kmsiever 03:59, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lethbridge-stub

Hi - it has come to our notice that you have recently created a new stub type. As it clearly states at WP:STUB, at the top of most stub categories, on the template page for new Wikiprojects and in many other places on Wikipedia, new stub types should be proposed prior to creation at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals, in order to check whether the new stub type is already covered by existing stub types, whether it is named according to stub naming guidelines, whether it reaches the standard threshold for creation of a new stub type, whether it crosses existing stub type hierarchies, and whether better use could be made of a WikiProject-specific talk page template.

In the case of your new stub type, it covers far too small a subject. Very, very few individual cities gt stub templates, and in each case there is a specific WikiProject to do with them. In Canada, only Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver have specific templates - all others stubs are divided by either province or provincial sub-region. Your new template has been proposed for deletion at WP:SFD - please feel free to comment there on any reasons why it should not be deleted. Grutness...wha? 05:52, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Actually, Calgary also has a stub. --Kmsiever 14:30, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lethbridge assessment

Unless the article goes to Good article status, it won't change. It's certainly not A-Class (Which is close to featured status). Personally, I'd rate it Low-Importance; I don't think so many Canadians across the country would know about this specific city that it warrants mi-importance (which maybe a dozen or so cities in the country warrant, in my opinion).Circeus 19:41, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

You may be right, but it is debatable. Considering the exposure it's received in recent years in the media (i.e. Dar Heatherington, 2007 Scotties, a stop on several band tours and so on), I wouldn't be quick to drop it off mid just yet. It'll be a long time before it hits high (if ever); that's for sure.
One other thing, what do you mean by "Unless the article goes to Good article status, it won't change"? What is meant by "it"? The article? The level of importance? If the latter, I'm not interested in just the level of importance. I am interested in writing a quality article. --Kmsiever 21:59, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
By "it," I meant the class. My comments on "importance" refelcted only a personal opinion, and I hope you didn't take offense to them. The article is currently at B-class. I don't think it's quite Good class level, much less A-class.Circeus 18:11, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Which is why I posted a request for assessment. I hope to improve it so it can be at least GA compatible if not actually rated GA. --Kmsiever 18:13, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Regina

[edit] North Central

Cool it on the edits, you stick to Lethbridge. Let those that live in Regina deal with it. Thanks. --206.163.235.114 01:45, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

If you don't like my edits, bring it up with arbitration. There is nothing wrong with any edit I have made. --Kmsiever 01:46, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
It is a pity that 206.163.235.114 doesn't register a username and thereby attorn to the jurisdiction of the arbitrators. Given that he or she does not, may I state my (doubtless unnecessary) full support of your laudable attempts to tone down the polemic and return the article to appropriate disinterestedness: may I also (doubtless equally unnecessarily) encourage you to entirely to ignore 206.163.235.114 without let or hindrance. The ludicrous suggestion that only a current resident of Regina has any standing to participate in a neutral-toned description of the city puts me in mind of a class I once taught at the University of Regina: I made occasional (in the context highly relevant) observations as to small town prairie life that were not entirely laudatory; some of the students inferred from the fact that I had lived elsewhere than Saskatchewan that I was from elsewhere than Saskatchewan and solemnly informed me that "We don't really like outsiders talking about our way of life." I got their ear by demonstrating my bona fides according to their bone-headed criteria and then pointed out how bone-headed those criteria were. I would of course make this observation to 206.163.235.114 him- or herself if he or she would register a username but there hardly seems any point so long as he or she hides from scrutiny as to his or her edits. Masalai 03:59, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the support. I read through the dispute resolution article today. It gave me a reminder to just ignore him/her. I am trying to make edits around his/her hot-button issues until he leaves. If it continues being belligerent, I am going to put in a request for arbitration. --Kmsiever 04:13, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Good idea. He or she has certainly given lots of indication of where he or she is coming from; the silly thing is it is unlikely that any truly impartial participant in the editing process would discount his or her viewpoint on the substantive issues at hand, which will doubtless make their way into the eventual outcome of this particular editing issue one way or another. Do you have any idea of the background of the proposal that there be an urban reserve and why this might be thought a favourable move with respect to the problems of personal safety in the NW neighbourhood? Clearly it's not of central importance to an article on Regina overall but if, as is stated, Saskatoon, Swift Current and other urban centres have gone this route there should at least be a footnote stating why they did so and whether the outcome was favourable. Meanwhile, where do you think this discussion should go? Clearly not where it is at present: it's not an urban planning issue, surely, is it? Certainly not one they address at schools of urban planning, anyway, and when they do, not successfully. Masalai 04:35, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
I have never heard of the proposal, but I certainly find it interesting 206.163.235.114 cries racism, but then brings up the urban reserve issue as if it will solve all of NC's problems. I certainly do not think it is an urban planning issue (I said as much in fact); I doubt city planners intended for Moccasin Flats to turn out like it did. It's a social issue, not an urban planning one. I think what needs to happen is that this section needs to be transplanted into another article, whether by itself or one with all the neighbourhoods/quadrants. That would discourage much of what is happening, in my opinion, or at least take it away from the Regina article. --Kmsiever 04:46, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Culture in Regina

thanks for the assistance in looking over my articles in the culture in Regina articles. I love doing research and finding the articles, but I do not have a journalistic or any kind of editing experience in writing the articles properly. I hope it is ok with you if I continue to find substantial articles about Regina and insert them with your help to go over them and get them looking polished and professional. Also, thanks for your assistance with the North Central issues, I agree with you that a priority is that we need to move the NC article to another place and possibly create articles for each major subdivision later.I do not know how to do that so if you want to do it, feel free, you have my full support. Also, we should also move the Notable people to another page also as I feel it doesnt really define a community enough to be on the front page. Enough for now, I gotta go, thanks again for the help! Friesguy 04:43, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

No problem. I like editing copy. I can't make the new articles right now, but if no one else does, it I will try to give it a shot in the future. --Kmsiever 04:48, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] PS re Mormons in Lillooet

I see you're interested in Mormon history....I'm not Mormon but my field of interest/expertise is the Fraser Canyon Gold Rush and the Lillooet area in particular. Had a look at the early censuses and other stuff in detail a year or two ago and remarked that, in the first census in Lillooet, there were half a dozen or a dozen Mormons - listed as an ethnicity alongside Galicians (Ukrainians), Poles, Italians, Irish and all the rest. One of the main gold-mining bars just north of town, between the Bridge River Rapids (aka Six Mile, at the confluence of that river with the Fraser) and Fountain (aka 12 Mile) was called Mormon Bar. I'm wondering if there are any Mormon historians or records that might have diaries or journals of the experience of Mormon pioneers in the Fraser Canyon Gold Rush that might make mention of Lillooet (then known variously because of multiple local shantytowns as Cayoosh, Cayoosh Flat, Parsonville, Parsonsville, the Fountains, Bridge River and "Kayousch"; it didn't get the name Lillooet until fall 1860, when the rush was mostly over). See http://www.cayoosh.net (my hobby site) for more on the area; I'm always looking for new material from unusual, especially personal, sources...sometime in the near future I'm going to try and "get done" my long-postponed book on the area, as its 150th Anniversary is upcoming in 1858-60.Skookum1 09:18, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

I am not aware of any historians with information on the area. I know Dennis A. Wright at BYU has done some research on Mormons in Canada. He may be a starting point. --Kmsiever 15:43, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kootenai (tribe)/Ktunaxa people

Hi. Saw your post on the Kootenai (tribe) talk page and I agree with you about the tribe->people thing; "tribe" in particular is a very US-side usage and kind of awkward, as you know, when used in Canada (when used by non-First Nations people anyway...). I'm all over the place on the Indigenous Peoples of North America WikiProject and I can tell you there's a lot of variance between the two forms, and some have brackets around tribe or people, some don't; there's also some that omit it entirely (Palus e.g.) as was also the case in BC with Lillooet and other names (now disambigs, mostly; see how it got resolved on Chilcotin and the Lillooet pages....which are still kind of tangled. Anyway, yeah, there needs to be a standard; the Indigenous Project has been kind of fallow for a while but an appropriate place for discussion of this issue would be the talk page there....I've kind of overposted there so it might be better if someone else posted something for a change ;-) Skookum1 09:12, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll check out the project. --Kmsiever 15:41, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
The Original Barnstar
For your work in maintaining Southern Alberta related articles, especially for getting Lethbridge up to GA status. PhoenixTwo 06:00, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Brocket 99 business

You're welcome. I'm not sure whether the page needs the big copyright tag or not, but it certainly needs some major clean-up. For what it's worth, I'm about to nominate Tough Buck from Brocket and Brocket 99 Christmas Album at AfD, which may help clear up some things; after that's done, we can work on the main page (there's probably a stub's worth of encyclopedic content there). —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 19:32, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree, and thanks for nominating those. I am doubtful much more content can be added than what was on the page before the anonymous user came along. --Kmsiever 19:35, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Infobox Municipality of Alberta

Hi Kim,

(this is an Alberta infobox, not an Edmonton infobox. Removing link to past Edmonton mayors)

Oops, yes. Thanks for spotting!  Regards, David Kernow (talk) 18:07, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

No problem. I was wondering why the Lethbridge box kept showing a link to Edmonton mayors. :) --Kmsiever 19:42, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sunstone Magazine

Kim,

I'm new to wikipedia editing, will you review the changes to Sunstone Magazine and see if that is closer to where it needs to be for references? I didn't remove the reference alert yet. Specifically, the references address several of the points in each paragraph, so I included them in bulk at the end. Being relatively new, that may be bad form. Feedback, cleanup would be appreciated. Mahuph 17:13, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey, Mahuph. It's looking better. I made a few changes, but there are still some spots that could use some fixing (still slightly POV for example). --Kmsiever 19:31, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mayor Quimby (anon. IP) troll

I think the individual who has recently chosen a name is engaging in vandalism, trolling, baiting, hurling personal insults, politicized and POV enflamed arguments, engaging in attacks, and generally spends more time making trouble than contributing (although the individual does have some contributions). I think we may have to report this. However, I am not sure of what to do now except, since the individual engages in trolling, to try and ignore as much as possible. However, the areas in which I usually work in Wikipedia are rife with these miscreants and we tend to shut them down quite quickly because of their disruptiveness and the difficulties that they create. What do you think we should do? for example, I saw above that you had considered 'arbitration' the last time (you mean dispute resolution?) but I think we might consider asking for an official comment from an admin who's familiar with this kind of thing. Alternatively, file an 'Incident Report' if things get bad? -- Mumun 無文 15:52, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Last time I just bit my lip and ignored the person. After 3–4 days I was able to make the changes without any reverts. But this person has taken i further by developing a sock puppet. S/he has no intention of making any contributions; s/he seems content with simply questioning all other contributions. However, the steps of arbitration say that we should first contact the person, then ignore him/her before requesting arbitration. Which is what did with the last person. I asked him/her to stop, ignored him/her, and finally put in a request to have the person blocked. --Kmsiever 19:06, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Please note that I'm in discussion with that user and have asked them to provide their rationale on the talk page and also to update their edit summaries, which they are not doing. If they insist on blindly reverting the article, they will be blocked for WP:3RR - Alison☺ 17:55, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the update and your assistance, Alison. --Kmsiever 19:00, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kmseiver troll

Stop reverts,or you will blocked from edits. You are vandalising the Regina Neighbourhoods page.

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