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Contents 1 License tagging for Image:Indian4DivBadge.JPG 2 Image tagging for Image:Indian10DivBadge0001.jpg 3 Rookie errors 4 Montecassino and French troops 5 Winter Line 6 Re Monte Cassino edit 7 San Pietro 8 Updating Images 9 Which Sikhs in British Somaliland?

[edit] License tagging for Image:Indian4DivBadge.JPG

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[edit] Image tagging for Image:Indian10DivBadge0001.jpg

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[edit] Rookie errors

OK so I'm a newbie at uploading images. I've gone back and I hope I have fixed things to the satisfaction of the OrphanBot fascist! Stephen Kirrage 15:50, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Montecassino and French troops

I suppose I were right. I've reverted the change. Greetings--Giovanni Giove 10:12, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

• • Thank you. Stephen Kirrage 10:16, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

terrific work on this page - thanks so much. DMorpheus 15:38, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. Wallie 21:53, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Once again I can't thank you enough. I was going to begin working on that page. You beat me to it and I am glad you did. DMorpheus 11:28, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Winter Line

Thanks for your message, Kirrages! Regarding details about the Winter Line, I have sadly no idea. I have just taken as a mission to clean up the article Allied invasion of Italy, since the need has been tagged for. I was about to direct you to the map Image:ItalyDefenseLinesSouthofRome1943 4.jpg, but I noticed you are the creator of it! Great work, by the way, the map is exquisite!

I just tried to rewrite the end of the article to make it flow better, and from reading Winter Line, along with your map, I got the impression that the Volturno and Barbara lines were part of the Winter Line, i.e. the Winter Line was a collective name for all those lines. But, I am sure you know much more than I about this, and I call upon you to make changes to Allied invasion of Italy as you see fit. Btw, I'm not sure I understood, did you yourself make the same assumption as me, that all the lines belonged the Winter Line? My Regards, --Dna-Dennis ^{talk - contribs} 16:26, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I have taken the Winter Line to include Gustav, Bernhardt/Reinhardt and Adolf Hitler Lines based on some (but not all!) the literature I've read - different authors use varying definitions, so it seems that it's not just me who is confused! I can't say for sure this is 100% right but until I or someone else can find a definitive reference I keep tidying Wikipedia to be consistent with this view. Life would be easier if one could self-reference!! I'll have a go at adjusting the entry, I hope it's OK. Thanks for the compliment on the map - I only did it because I was concerned about copywrite of printed maps and was pretty pissed to discover (from your map in this article) that it is OK to use US military maps because thay are in the public domain! Stephen Kirrage 17:34, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I found your rewrite good. And, hey, don't be pissed, your map is probably better than what's otherwise available on the net, and your map is in color. :) But I have a suggestion: upload it to Wikimedia instead (link: Wikimedia); in this way, your image will be available to all Wikis, not just the English one. If you do it, tag your old Wikipedia-image with Template:NowCommons, and request a deletion from the English Wikipedia. If you want help, give me a holler. And as I said don't be pissed for too long - the last image I did was this map of the Moscow Kremlin - based on a previous map in Italian. I worked on it for 8 hours, uploaded, linked to it, and got a message from a Russian wikipedian who told me the map was archaic with 10+ serious errors...and I haven't yet found strength to go at it. My regards, --Dna-Dennis ^{talk - contribs} 02:21, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

If I upload images to Wikimedia do I have to change the links in the Wikipedia documents? If so what is the syntax to link to a Wikimedia image? Also, I know this sounds dumb, but how do I request a deletion? Stephen Kirrage 13:06, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

No, the automagical thing is you don't have to change the link syntax in any article - they will immediately be loaded from wikimedia instead. And, regarding tagging for deletion, it should be enough with tagging the image with Template:NowCommons, since it is a "pseudo-request" for deletion. I however usually emphasize this with a proper deletion tag, like inserting {{delbecause|Please delete this image because it now exists in Wikimedia commons.}}. Regards, --Dna-Dennis ^{talk - contribs} 23:20, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! That's a relief. I'm getting to work on the images while also trying to turn the Gothic Line entry into something worthy of the largest battle of the Italian campaign. Stephen Kirrage ^{talk - contribs} 23:52, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re Monte Cassino edit

Yeah, I completely understand where you're coming from; if you read the edit summary you'll see I was hesitant to remove them. My feeling was that all of these troops were part of the French and British armies, and since no such states as "Algeria," "Morocco," and "India" existed, it was better to leave them out. In any case, the modern flags are anachnronistic and should not be used. My solution would be to keep the Battlebox simple and describe North African and Indian participation in full in the article text. But it's up to you. Albrecht 02:48, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] San Pietro

Thanks for your corrections to the Battle of San Pietro Infine. Sloppy typing on my part! I wonder if you have any ideas for a "battle box"--one of those infoboxes used on a number of such pages. I'd rather use a pre-existing template rather than invent one, myself. Jeffmatt 06:51, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the templates and instructions. As for "...Are you planning to cover any of the other engagements?" I'm not sure. I just did this one because I live in the area (Naples) and have a 93-year-old friend who is a vet of the 36th. He took me up there and I use him for occasional interviews of WW2 Oral History that I maintain on a private webpage. I'll have to give it some thought. I'll have a go at the inforbox and see what happens. Cheers from Naples, thanks again, and Happy New Year. Jeffmatt 15:38, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

More on Battle of San Pietro Infine war box. It worked out. I modified the one you sent and stuck it in there--although still incomplete while I look for details. Thanks again. Jeffmatt 07:11, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Updating Images

I've uploaded a new version of Image:ItalyDefenseLinesSouthofRome1943 4.jpg and although this appears in the history, the image on the page (and through the various links) is not the new one. What have I done wrong?! Stephen Kirrage ^{talk - contribs} 18:32, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Reload page in your browser using CTRL+R, old image is in its cache. ≈Tulkolahten≈^≈talk≈ 21:24, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

I can see S.Pietro clearly southwest near Cassino. As I can see it lies on Bernhardt line. ≈Tulkolahten≈^≈talk≈ 12:38, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

If you use FireFox try leftCTRL+leftShift+R instead CTRL+R, it forces full reload of the page. ≈Tulkolahten≈^≈talk≈ 12:40, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Which Sikhs in British Somaliland?

Hi, Kirrages. Thank you for your question about East African Campaign and for adding more details. I was trying to expand the very sketchy article on the campaign, but I don't think I can resolve completely the issue of the identity of the Punjabis at Tug Argan. I only have one source at hand with order of battle information--Mockler, who says that it was the 14th Punjabis--and you have two that say the 15th, including an official history. I think you're more likely to be right.

BTW, I'm not finished with the article, and I plan to expand and correct the section in the article on Alan Cunningham's attack on the southern front. From what I know, the attack consisted of brigades, not divisions as the article now states. I'd appreciate your looking at what I add.

Dhanig