Talk:Kirklees

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Black Hill _was_ on the Cheshire/Yorkshire border, (with Derbyshire ending at Crowden/A628) - so says Alfred Wainwright's 1968 Pennine Way Companion and my reading of my 1980 Dark Peak OS map - possible error? Linuxlad 10:17, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Digital mapping, including Streetmap, my digital Anquet map, and OS's getamap, all show it as clearly being on the border with Derbyshire, with an area north of the A628 (now?) within Derbyshire. Suggests to me that the border has moved, as this would seem an odd (and major) sort of error. There is also the potential for confusion here - there is a Black Hill on the Cheshire border (and just outside the Peak District), but not the Black Hill (Peak District) linked to from this Kirklees page, which does appear from current OS maps to be on the Derbyshire border. StephenDawson 12:14, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

That would be Tintwistle Rural District. Morwen - Talk 22:17, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Name

It would be useful to have a definition on this page of why the metropolitan borough was named "Kirklees". I assume it was named after Kirklees Hall, but why was that rather obscure name chosen in preference to one of the several town names within the borough? Was it, like Sandwell, supposedly a case of choosing a neutral name the towns wouldn't fight over? DWaterson 21:52, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Erm, especially given that Kirklees Hall appears to be in Calderdale and not MB Kirklees at all either... Anyone? DWaterson 21:54, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

I have a 1972 OS Map of the Dark Peak, which shows Black Hill which has to the east Holme Moss and to the North Wessenden Moor. It is marked as the point at which the Pennine Way and the Alternative Pennine Way meet. I recall being told that if you stood there with your legs apart and reached down to touch the floor you would be in West Yorkshire Lancashire and Cheshire all at the same time. The county boundaries seem to indicate most of Black Hill was in West Yorkshire, at that time. I have photographed the relevant section and uploaded it here:- Black Hill It should enlarge quite well but needs a copyright tag, but I don't know which to use. if its not a fair use could someone delete the image after the answer has been agreed. As for Kirklees's name:- Huddersfield Borough Council ceased to exist on the 27 July 1974, amid a huge public firework display and a banquet for dignitaries. It merged with Dewsbury Borugh Council and since then most of us, who live here, have been trying to figure out the real reason why the new councillors chose the name of Kirklees! and longer still wondering when they will change it back. Some say its because Kirklees Estate was halfway between, and included, the two boroughs on the main route from Huddersfield to Dewsbury, others claim its because the new councillors wanted a more 'upmarket and memorable name'. Whatever the reason the results are the same, no-one knows where 'Kirklees' is, but they do know where 'Huddersfield Town' is. The best chance for the true reason would be to scour the microfiche records of the Huddersfield Examiner, available in the Huddersfield public library. Richard Harvey 00:24, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

The Times of August 8, 1974, has a bit about this - obviously Huddersfield "would not have been acceptable to Batley and Dewsbury" - the councillor quoted claims that they "started with 50 names, including Wooldale and Brigantia. Finally the choice was between Upper Agbrigg and Kirklees". Morwen - Talk 13:52, 17 September 2006 (UTC) Oh, and your date of July 27 is erroneous - I don't know what happened on that day, but the actual legal date was April 1, 1974.

My typo error Morwen! It should have read 27th March 1974, not July. It was the date of the final meeting of Huddersfield Borough Council, in its 106th year, which was followed by the official banquet and a firework display in Greenhead park the same evening. Richard Harvey 18:43, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Last pit in West Yorkshire

Notice that it's come up twice now, so I'll put it on here. Kellingley is just over the border into North Yorkshire, so Scissett has the only pit left in the county. Epa101 16:54, 3 August 2006 (UTC)