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1 Shakkahou
2 translations of incantations of Bakudo #31 and 33
3 Incantations
4 Page move
5 Possible Unintentional Spoiler
6 Incantation edit

[edit] Shakkahou

I believe you and won't remove the spelling, but what omake can it be found in? I thought it was in the Abarai/Kira/Hinamori omake, but it's not there. Please clarify. -- Y Ynhockey ^(Talk) Y 17:42, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

It's in the ch -17 omake at the end of vol 15. I've uploaded the appropriate page: http://lvlwing.rastereyesdesign.com/images/BLEACH15_0171.jpg It's in the middle panel.

Yeah I've found it also. It was indeed in the Abarai/Kira/Hinamori omake. Good find. -- Y Ynhockey ^(Talk) Y 17:50, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] translations of incantations of Bakudo #31 and 33

Are they intentionally so similar in structure, or was it the result of a vandalism? Four of their first five clauses are identical, and the fifth is almost the same... --Pentasyllabic 00:58, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

The kanji in both are the same up to the "name of man" part, so yes. I wonder whether it would be worth altering the wording to make it more obvious... Setokaiba^✌_≝ 10:46, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Incantations

I really have no good suggestion of what to do with them, but they are really problematic - it's hard to translate whole passages from Japanese to English in a way that 2 different people agree, especially passages as intentionally complicated as these. Any suggestions? -- Ynhockey ^(Talk) 05:12, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

If the Viz translations and the dub agree, and are a reasonable translation, I suppose we may as well use those. We'll need someone with the English manga, of course.Setokaiba^✌_≝ 09:07, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Page move

I suggest moving the page to "Kidou" since that's the official English (per Bleach episode 1 dub). Yes? --Zeno McDohl ^(talk) 22:55, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

If we're doing that, we should put it at Kidō. --tjstrf 22:57, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

What does the official English manga say? -- Ynhockey ^(Talk) 16:58, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

It's Kidō in the English manga. But it's nothing about "demon arts", instead they say it's "Soul Reaper powers"... --Zeno McDohl ^(talk) 19:01, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

They also refer to them as "Soul Reaper spells" a lot in the anime. --tjstrf 19:05, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

The dubbers just moved up one slot in my book. Dekimasu 12:48, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Not mine: they don't distinguish between hadou and bakudou. 03:57, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree, what's up with that? Now blast #33 is bakudō? Let's hope this is just a one-time screw-up, or it will confuse many people as to what the difference between kidō and bakudō is. -- Ynhockey ^(Talk) 04:47, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Can someone comment on the English manga? Dekimasu 01:27, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

My sister has it... I'll call her soon probably.--Anaraug 01:31, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Ehh... she's at a sleepover. I can find out tomorrow if no one else does first.--Anaraug 01:34, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Aw man, Zeno beat me to it... yeah it's Kidō, at least the first time.--Anaraug 03:30, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

So do we agree on this? --Zeno McDohl ^(talk) 05:16, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Possible Unintentional Spoiler

In the Overview section, fourth paragraph, where mention is made about finding Aizen, I was thinking this might reveal just enough to potentially spoil some of the plot. I may just be paranoid though.--^zer0dyer$ 13:15, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Incantation edit

There was no evidence that a spell without an incantation is reduced to 1/3 power. Aizen specifically stated his failed and thats why it was 1/3. Other incantationless spells were never stated to be 1/3 of their power

There is no proof that it's necessarily 1/3, but it's more difficult to properly cast spells without incantations, and spells with incantations are more powerful. See my edit summary for the Aizen/Gin/Spell 90 explanation. Also there were 2 cases (I think) where Rukia was able to cast a much more powerful spell by reciting the incantation. -- Ynhockey ^(Talk) 00:42, 28 January 2007 (UTC)