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Some anonymus user with the IP 216.161.111.60 added this bizarre text in the Ki-aikido article:

"Anton Orlichenko is currently the world champion in Aikido. During a 1993 match he accidentally killed a bear while taking down an opponent. He hails from Russia and claims to consume three quarts of vodka a day. He has been shot four times while fighting, mostly because he robbed the World Zurich Bank while bare naked, using only his hands and an empty vodka bottle as his weapon.
The second greatest Ki-Aikido tournament fighter to date is Thomas Ouellette. Hailing from the far reaches of northernmost Canada, weighing in at 432 lbs. and six ft., seven inches, this heavyweight ki-aikido champion has been undefeated, save for one match against rookie newcomer Abby Buchhalter. A swiss native, Abby has yet to prove herself on the big mat, but shows a great deal of promise."

This above text has nothing to do with aikido, and nothing with ki-aikido or its founder. I dont know if its some wierd typ of joke, but if it happens again I'll make sure he is reported and banned.

--Fred26 06:34, 2005 Mar 25 (UTC)

Some expansion on the concept of one-point would be nice. -Toptomcat 19:14, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Now your asking. According to my sensi it takes between 1 and ten years to find the thing. It sort of defies description. You could have a look at Dantian which is similar. --Salix alba (talk) 19:54, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

hmm...in my Ki Aikido class it usually takes new students about 2minutes of their first class to find it. Sounds like your sensei is making something incredibly simple into something incredibly complicated.Wwilson 1 22:11, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps they mean different things; one a physical sense of balance, one a mental one. -Toptomcat 02:23, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

As I was taught, they are the same. And neither is that hard. Are you talking about a Ki Aikido Teacher or some other art? Message me if you want to talk more.Wwilson 1 02:46, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I reinstated the Yoshigasaki mentioning in the membership figures

The main reason I put them in there in the first place is to put emphasize on the fact that Yoshigasaki and his Ki no Kenkyukai Association Internationale is NOT a part of Toheis group. Due to the fact that Yoshigasaki uses the "Ki no Kenkyukai" and "Ki-Aikido" names to describe his org and art, I feel a disclaimer was necessary in order for the reader to know they are two seperate groups with no official ties to each other. I fail to see the "advertising" in that disclaimer. I havent done anything to restore Ken Williams since I dont know much about him or his org. I'll leave that discussion to the parties involved. Thank you. Fred26 04:48, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

"2007-02-20T12:27:31 Wwilson 1 (Talk | contribs) m (please list other branches under 'other groups'. No branch should get preferential treatment in the text. Please expand your style's page instead)"

Right, I can see it's not worth it trying to argue with you. The article is yours. Fred26 12:23, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

It's nobody's, but the article should be clear and simple. Putting caveats and offshoot sentences like that only confuse and complicate it. Let the page be about what Ki Aikido as generally understood is, not what it isn't and what it might possibly have been similar to before an offshoot organization blah blah blah. See what I mean? or not?Wwilson 1 12:51, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ki-federation

As to the Ki-Federation it is the major group practicing Ki Aikido in the UK there are 50+ dojos in the Ki-Federation[1] compared with 4 for the Ki Society[2]. For many years the Ki Federations was part of the Ki Society and high grades used to travel to japan to grade. Ken Williams is top of the The British Aikido Tree[3] so it is likely that the Sensi's in the Ki Society studied under Williams. Certainly the other major Ki Aikido orginisation in the UK, the Kolesnikov's School of Mind and Body Development is a break away from Willaims group[4]. So basically for most people in the UK Ki Aikido is derived from Williams. --Salix alba (talk) 08:36, 20 February 2007 (UTC)