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Hello, Khirad, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome!  Just noticed no one had placed a welcome on your talk. Better late than never, though you are probably familiar with all this by now. SouthernComfort 1 July 2005 23:25 (UTC)

Welcome Khirad. Wikipedia needs more editors well-versed in Zoroastrian traditions and related topics (I'm rather versed myself, but most of it is based on memory, not recent study). Decius 18:36, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcomes! I'm just sorta getting the hang of things. It took me over a 2 months, but better late than never! Khirad 00:51, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Zoroaster

Hey fellow Portland metro mate. Yes the little heard of religion whose tenants predate the world's big three religions is recognized by Baha'u'llah as founded by a supreme messenger. But if you're looking for Zoroastrian information in Baha'i texts, you should first understand a small detail that is very misunderstood about the Baha'i Faith.

Well intentioned Baha'is sometimes say that the Baha'i Faith thinks all the religions are true... not exactly. To be more specific, Baha'u'llah named 7 religions being practiced in the world and said that they were founded by a greater Prophet, and all of them fundamentally agree. In a little more detail, the Baha'i writings recognize that the current teachings of most of these religions are far distorted from the originals, that they were religions meant for a past age, and that they represent the absolute truth and only means for eternal life until the next Messenger comes. As if there is a shelf life for religions. In that sense, what Zoroaster said and did is recognized as absolutely from God, but the small group of Zoroastrians in Iran who are dwindling down into extinction are not seen to be in harmony with God's plan. I'm saying this because you will see Zoroaster mentioned as a Messenger, equal with the others, but not a lot more than that.

I hope your attempt to fill out the Zoroastrian pages goes well, but I don't want to put in a lot of time and effort into that project... I would rather be doing Baha'i pages. Let me know if you have any specific questions. Don't forget to mention that the three wise men who visited Jesus were Zoroastrians. And write me if you want to join us for any Baha'i events at PSU. We're having a introduction/social night this weekend. Cuñado - Talk 23:30, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

No need to apologize, you already know more than half of the United States knows about the Baha'i Faith. I cringe at the word "convert", cause some people think that a single event (declaration of faith) is all that really matters.
If you want to know how Baha'u'llah came up with the list, I would say he has innate knowledge and just knows. After personally studying a lot, it just makes sense to me, and anyone who doesn't acknowledge the divine origin of all the mentioned religions would be obviously mistaken. Cuñado - Talk 18:45, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] bengali suggestions

hey khirad i somewhat answered your questions on the bengali talk page. let me know if you have any more thoughts/questions!

--SameerKhan 00:33, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hi Khirad!

I found your page realy interesting Khirad , nice to see you here , by the way I am very interested to learn more about Zoroastrian esoteric/mystic practices and traditions and also their contribution to Sufism , unfortunately I have found very little information so far , I guess you can help me , actualy I am well versed in Sufism and have a huge interest in all kinds of mystic and occult thought but do not know so much about Zoroastrianism (shameful eh?),I also would appreciate any help regarding Zoroastrian literature for expanding the almost empty Persian Literature entry.By the way my major fields of study are Persian literature (mostly literature written after Islamic conquest of Persia) , Sufism and the modern occult(19-21 century) ,it seems that you are interested in all of these subjects.

And you might like this proverb : "There is a link between the hearts" (a Persian proverb , used when someone mentions his intentions, emotions etc and it happens to describe his fellow)

Good Luck! Pasha Abd 03:29, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Greetings!

Just want to say I found your page quite fascinating. I am interested in Iran, India, and their religious traditions. I am intrigued by Zoroastrianism, Sufism, and Vaishnavism. I'll read more of your work when I can tear myself away from Civilization IV. :P Siyavash 01:18, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Socialist stubs

Hiya. I've proposed a socialist/social democratic stub category, and it's currently up for discussion. I'd much appreciate your thoughts on it. The discussion is taking place here. Thanks. aliceinlampyland 13:20, 30 November 2005 (UTC).

[edit] Urdu Wikipedia

HI,

I request you to please contribute to Urdu wikipedia. We are trying hard to build this wiki. Current article count is 617. Your help in any way would be appreciated.(even if you understand basic level of urdu)Wisesabre 06:28, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] parsis

I agree that Parsi needs to be expanded, particularly the migration from Persia and general history. I'll do it in a couple of weeks after I'm done with my current project if no one else has. Also, do have any idea idea what the -walla means at the end of many Parsi names? My girlfriend would like to know.--Hraefen 07:16, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Parsi (revisited)

I wrote the original text for Parsi/Parsee since the original placeholder (->Persian) was (IMO) really unsatisfactory.

I'm glad someone other than me has this on their "to-do" list now. :)

In my original entry, I mentioned Parsis recieving Scheduled Tribe status in 2004. This was based on a statement my father made in early 2005. I've since tried, without any luck, to find a verifiable source that can back this up. Worse yet, it appears to have been adopted by the Adivasi entry. Need help here.

Fullstop 14:15, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] -walla

Re: Hraefen's question what the -walla suffix means.

In short, it means "person". :) In the context of a family name, -walla (or -wala or -wallah or -val[l]a) usually indicates "a person who has such-and-such profession", but is also (albeit less commonly) used to indicate "a person who comes from such-and-such place".

-walla may be considered equivalent to the saxon -er or -or as in Miller, Mayor (the professions), or Berninger (as in place). The germanic -man or -mann is similar.

While virtually all Parsi family names are references to profession, they are not necessarily suffixed by -walla, nor are they necessarily typically Parsi (-walla is not necessarily Parsi either). Professions that have a proper name - the equivalent of Smith for instance - do not have a -walla suffix. Neither do names that are in English, like "Doctor", "Engineer", "Cooper" and "Merchant".

The term "walla" (or "wallah" as the British use it) was incorporated into the english language during the colonial years. It has a slight derogatory connotation in British public school english - as in, "he's a Throgmorton Street wallah" to indicate the subject made his fortune on the stock exchange (as opposed to being from a family which would enable him to inherit it).

The Random House dictionary entry for [-]wallah states: "a person in charge of, employed at, or concerned with a particular thing (used in combination)".

Fullstop 14:15, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Parsi tribal status followup

I've since removed the lines that state that Parsis have tribal status from both Parsi and Adivasi entries. I've followed up my edits with a comment on the Adivasi talk page. - Fullstop 12:57, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Parsi disambig

I've followed your (and Taxman's) suggestion to resolve the disambig Parsi, but rather than move it to another page (as you asked, what title would it have?), I've simply applied a little wordplay at the top to reference the alternate meanings.

Better now? :) -- Fullstop 20:47, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] TfD nomination of Template:MalayalamScript

Template:MalayalamScript has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:MalayalamScript. Thank you. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 12:32, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Devanagari

Hi Khirad, I have seen that you have added words in Hindi on Wikipedia. May I ask where you find the script. Please tell me thanks. DaGizza Chat 01:27, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

There is also a WikiProject Zoroastrianism under way. You may consider joining it. DaGizza Chat 01:34, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pre-Islamic Persian literature etc

Thank you so much Khirad.The proverb in Persian says : "Del Be Del Raah Daarad"

"دل به دل راه دارد"

Among Sufi writers , my most favorite is Ibn Arabi , Sufism and Taoism : A comparative study of key philosophical concepts , Toshihiko Izutsu whose "Sufism" part is entirely deidicated to Ibn Arabi was a particularly interesting book to me.The authors understanding of Sufism is so deep and this book is one of the comparatively few books which discuss the more philosophical side of Sufism (most people focus on the poetic side of the Sufi writings you know).

Looking foreward to more messages from you. Pasha 20:32, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Zoroastrianism

Hi. I have recently joined the project. So how can help expanding Zoroastrian-related articles ? and by the way check out the Wikipedia:WikiProject Zoroastrianism, I made some new userboxs, I think they will come handy. Amir85 17:38, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Greetings

Can you tell me more about how your name is from Persian Mythology? Thanks! --Kash 22:40, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Holidays in India

Intro to Zoroastrian on this page introduced by you runs counter to current format which is plain listing of holidays/festivals in India. Would it not be better to move this article to India or Religions of India? Unless objected to, I am planning to move it soon. Ashish G 17:45, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] heads up...

In Talk:Jamshid you asked to be notified if there were significant changes to Jamshid. Well, here goes. :) - Fullstop 08:43, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

By the way, I'd appreciate your input on Zoroastrian calendar, which I've rewritten completely. I'm also in the process of writing a new article on Avesta, which I'd like to have you go over before I post it. May I mail? - Fullstop 08:43, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Zoroastrianism

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[edit] New Wiki

Hello. I'm looking around for people who might be interested in a new wiki I'm working on. It's about depression, and hopefully it will be a real resource for people who suffer from the condition. I see you mention your past problems with depression on your user page, and I wondering if you would be interested in contributing. The wiki is at Wikicities, which is a wiki hosting project started by Jimbo and [[User:Angela|Angela]. If you want to have a look, the new depression wiki is at http://depression.wikicities.com . Thanks -- sannse (talk) 12:34, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Happy New Year

Har Roozetan Norouz, Norouzetan Pirooz هر روزتا ن نوروز , نوروزتان پيروز . Amir85 14:46, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Zoroastrian mythology

should it be merged with persian mythology? User:Fullstop got rid of it without any notification. --Dangerous-Boy 19:38, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Zoroastrianism

Hey, if you ever come back we could do with some help on that article & connected articles, thanks --- K a s h Talk | email 00:48, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

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  15. For the following English vowels met, mate, mat, transcribe as मॅट (short vowel), मेट (not मेइट), मैट (not मॅट, as popular in Marathi). However in contemporary Hindi and here, it is acceptable to use ए instead of ऍ. Thus: अमेरिका is more popular than अमॅरिका. For cot, coat, caught, transcribe as कॉट, कोट, कॉट (not कौट). Transcribe English /t/ and /d/ as ट and ड.
  16. Use half-न before त, थ, द, ध, न, instead of anuswaar अं. Use half-म before प, फ, ब, भ, म. Use the anuswaar before all the rest of the consonants (not half-ङ, ञ, ण). If the मात्रा is not above the alphabet, use chandra-bindu, but only for nasalization. Thus: अन्दर, not अंदर ; अन्त, not अंत ; हिन्दी, not हिंदी ; सम्भव, not संभव ; पंचमी, not पञ्चमी ; अंडा, not अण्डा ; कंठ, not कण्ठ ; लैंड, not लैण्ड ; आँख, not आंख. However, both forms are acceptable in contemporary Hindi as well as here; the prec. are just recommendations.
  17. When proceded by another vowel, use the pure vowels instead of य (unless the य is clearly articulated while pronouncing). Thus : जाएँ, not जायें (not जावें) ; आएगा, not आयेगा . However, both forms are acceptable in contemporary Hindi as well as here.
  18. Please pay careful attention to the masculine/feminine gender (and singular/plural) in adjectives and verbs, else the sentence becomes ungrammatical.
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Thank you,

Cygnus_hansa 01:11, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome back

Long time no see, and I had repeatedly thought of swooshing you mail. But you are back, so yaaay! -- Fullstop 13:08, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion discussion invitation

I have nominated this page for deletion again. The discussion can be found here. Since you were involved in the previous VfD, I'm sure you could contribute important points to the debate and I invite you to become involved and vote. AEuSoes1 03:05, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bollywood articles

Salaam Khirad! I was reading the Bollywood discussion page and noticed that you know both Devanagari and Perso-Arabic. Basawala and I have been adding both Hindi and Urdu to Bollywood films, songs, etc. (i.e. Fanaa, Rang De Basanti, Anupam Kher) Your help would be very much appreciated. Please let me know if you can do this. Thanks in advance. Khuda hafiz, AnupamTalk 06:28, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Ayria Flicker Promo.jpg

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[edit] Please read

Hi! You might want to read my post: Talk:Saare_Jahan_Se_Achcha#Words_and_Meanings and give your feedback there. Thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fowler&fowler (talk • contribs) 18:27, 20 January 2007 (UTC).

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