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[edit] Palpatine and Darth Sidious

Since the merging of Palpatine and Darth Sidious is under dispute, please discuss this issue on their talk pages rather than unilaterally merging them on your own. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 15:19, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

  • Thank you for stopping the merge war. In the meantime, could you do me a favor? I recently spotted an anonymous user trying to unilaterally change Template:Swwiki to read "This article should be considered as a candidate to be copied to the Star Wars Wiki and then deleted." I persuaded this user to revert it back until there was a formal discussion on the change. So if you are familar and/or contribute to the Star Wars Wiki, could you please make a comment on that template's talk page. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 04:11, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

It looks like the concensus favors the article being merged under Palpatine. I think that if where to acknowledge this, we could go ahead and merge the articles. You've made some good points, but I think it's time to move on with this. Ace-o-aces 19:26, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

It is not time to "move on with this", Mr., Mrs., Mizz, or Miss Ace-o-aces! Also, Zzyzx11, I have not stopped the merge war! I have not had internet for the last week, actually. Also, I know nothing about a template called Swwiki. I am not the unknown user! I am now going to back to my beloved Star Wars Wiki! Adiosa! KFan II 00:12, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] adding pictures

First you have to upload the picture. Just click on the Upload File link, listed on the left side of the screen. Follow the instructions and after you've uploaded the picture, highlight and copy the Image:name of file.jpg (or whatever extention you used) tag. Now go to whatever article you want to add the picture to and paste the Image tag with the [[]] brackets around it. If its a large picture, you may have to add |thumb after the image name, but before the closing bracket.

Example:

Image:Name of file.jpg

You can also use 200px or 300px (or any number) to make the picture appear smaller in the article. To add a caption to the picture (that'll appear when someone holds their cursor over the picture), add |caption|whatever text you want]]

To add a picture to a table, just use the same method, in the designated spot (usually marked as |image= | )

Thats about it. Check Help:Contents for more information. --Kross 22:57, May 22, 2005 (UTC)

Thanx. KFan II


[edit] Anakin Skywalker and Darth Vader

Please do not unilaterally change or move these articles without further discussion with the community. Remember what happened with the Palpatine/Darth Sidious dispute? Zzyzx11 (Talk) 02:36, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

  • All to well. Should I consult an admin? KFan II


[edit] Ulic Qel-Droma

May I ask why you felt it necessary to add Ulic Qel-Droma as the Dark Lord of the Sith after Exar Kun without explanation? I have reverted this mistake twice already. When Ulic was a Sith, he was Exar Kun's apprentice - the apprentice to the Dark Lord, not the Dark Lord himself. He never achieved that title, as he lost his connection to the Force before his master's demise, and went into isolation shortly after. And I noticed you undid my changes for Bastila aswell. Bastila, like Ulic, was simply an apprentice (albeit for a very short time), and never achieved the status of Dark Lord of the Sith. Also, take into account what Jon Hart has been saying about the Sith Lords from KotOR II. They're just that - Sith Lords. There is only one Dark Lord of the Sith present at any time - neither had that advantage over the others, they were just equally very powerful Sith Lords. I'm going to revert the changes again - please provide some sort of logic or reason if you choose to dispute this. Thank you. Nufy8 22:35, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

You see, Ulic Qel-Droma was Dark Lord of the Sith for a very, very short time between the time his master died and Darth Revan took over. Same thing with Bastila Shan. Afterwards, the duo of Darth Nihilus and Darth Sion took over. Even if they were only the leaders of the Sith Order for a day or so, at that time, they were officially the leaders. I am reverting the changes you made. KFan II

  • Could you back that up in any form by chance? I'm wondering how he took on the mantle of Dark Lord of the Sith after Exar's death when he was unable to the feel force - and how the sources I've been reading (such as the Star Wars Databank) say nothing of him returning to the Sith ways after he was cut off from the Force. That goes hand in hand with Bastila - I fail to see where you've come to this conclusion. And, like I said, there can only be one true Dark Lord of the Sith at one time - I doubt there is knowledge out there of Nihilus or Sion taking the title of Dark Lord for only a few days, and it seems like pure speculation to me. But, alas, to avoid an all out edit-war, I won't revert again until we have others comment on this, to add their thoughts. Nufy8 22:48, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • I agree with you. Let's not have an edit war. I wanted to say one thing. The case with Sion and Nihilus...its an exception to the "one Dark Lord" rule. They were the heads of the Sith Order for ??? years, not just a few days. The following Dark Lords were on only for a few days or less:
  • Ulic Qel-Droma
  • Bastila Shan
      • Ok, I understand the Sith Lords from KotOR II being the leaders of the Sith in their time, but can we really refer to them as Dark Lords of the Sith in that case? And how do we know this was meant as an exception that would deliberately change the title of Dark Lord of the Sith? Also - you keep saying that Ulic and Bastila were respective Dark Lords for only a few days, yet I still don't see where you're getting this from. Nufy8 23:00, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
        • I'm sorry, Nufy8, I don't know where I got it from, but I remember I did get it from somewhere. Maybe from a Star Wars book? Yes, that must have been it, since I didn't get it from the internet. Sion and Nihilus could bend the rules because noone was stopping them, really. KFan II 23:03, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
          • Please, if you would, cite and quote from any books where it is stated that Ulic or Bastila was the Dark Lord of the Sith. Nufy8 23:07, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
            • I don't remember where I got it from, besides the fact that it was not from the internet. Please, if you could, find out where I got it from. I know it is official (unless a LusasThing lied). KFan II 23:09, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
              • You probably shouldn't be adding content that you are unable to verify. It's your responsibility to fact check when you add content, not mine. Nufy8 00:11, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I've checked with Tales of the Jedi: The Sith War- Ulic repents, and is severed (like the Jedi Exile) from the Force before he betrays Exar Kun, and causes Kun's death/ascencion; thus Ulic could never have been the Dark Lord. The arguments against Bastilla I've already said. --maru 01:16, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I don't get it. To be a Dark Lord of the Sith, do you have to have a connection to the Force? Also, if you are blocked from the force, don't you die? If you don't, it is against George Lucas's "vision", as Supershadow - a fraud, by the way - would say. I still have the impression that Ulic would be a Dark Lord. When Ulic betrayed Kun, how did the Sith legacy get passed on? --KFan II 14:19, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Yes to the first (the essence of being a Sith, and thus a Dark Lord, is their peculiar perversion of the Force), no to the second (did Ulic die when Naomi blocked him? Did the Jedi Exile die when he severed himself from the Force?). Ulic very much repented- he was wandering the galaxy seeking forgiveness, some way he could 'become a Jedi again'- does that sound very evil and Sith-y to you? And the Sith legacy got passed on the way it had before- artifacts, places of darkness, Sith spirits (hm... like the one of Freedon Nadd, who instructed Exar Kun in the Sith ways? Or like Kyp Durron and Exar Kun? For that matter, where did Revan get his instruction?) etc. --maru 15:37, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
So Ulic's not a Dark Lord person! Okay!I'll fix that. Thanx. --KFan II 15:42, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Good, we settled that pretty well. Thanks for your help, Maru. On another note, are you still disputing Bastila's Dark Lord/Lady of the Sith title or should we remove the succession box on her page? Nufy8 18:37, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Still disputing. KFan II 18:51, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Bastila had to be a Dark Lord of the Sith. After all, wasn't she trained by Malak? She must have inherited the title. True? KFan II 18:51, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I just discovered this is true. It says so in the article that after Malak died, she became Revan's apprentice. Since Revan wasn't on the Dark Side, Bastila assumed this role. Afterwards she was defeated, so then her "reign" - I guess you could call it - was taken over by Darth Traya. KFan II 18:56, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
In the light side ending, Bastila is converted by Revan before Malak dies, so she does not take on the title. For the dark side ending, after Malak dies, she does indeed become Revan's apprentice. However, Revan did turn to the dark side (hence dark side ending), and took the title of Dark Lord of the Sith before he went missing. Whether Bastila inherits the title after Revan leaves is never stated. --Nufy8 20:04, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Irrelevant. The succession boxes deal with what is canon, not the varied possibilities. We can't actually say what happens after Revan bugs out for the Unknown regions in the dark side ending of KOTOR II, because the source which would tell us, KOTOR II, tells only what happens after the light side ending. In the canon ending, the Light side ending, Bastilla is killed (?)/converted back to the Lightside, before Revan confronts and kills Malak. And KOTOR II tells us she never relapses, so the segment of time where she could have become Dark Lord, she didn't. --maru 22:23, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)


Okay, here's the way things are. The light side ending of Knights of the Old Republic is the canon ending, i.e. the one that "really" happened. Therefore, Revan redeemed Bastila, killed Malak, and saved the Republic as a Jedi. You will note, of course, that Bastila was redeemed before the death of Darth Malak, the reigning Dark Lord of the Sith. This means that Bastila was never, at any time, in any way, shape, or form, the Dark Lord of the Sith. She is alive, well, and still a Jedi in The Sith Lords. That's it. --Jon Hart
Precisely what I meant! You said it much better than I. --maru 01:30, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Sorry about everything, you obviously know Star Wars better than me. I just assumed that Shan would be Malak's apprentice, since he trained her. Lucasfilm people should make Star Wars easier to follow. KFan II

I see you've changed pages to include that the trio from The Sith Lords be included as Dark Lords of the Sith. Like the edit summaries on the history pages say, you need to provide some sort of proof of this. It's never said that either of them are Dark Lords of the Sith. I'm going to revert those changes... Nufy8
  • Wait a sec, Nufy8. In a very old version of Darth Malak's page, it said he was succeeded by the triad of Traya, Nihilus, and Sion. Then I realized this could be impossible, because Traya was the master of both. Because of this, she succeeded Malak, and in turn Sion and Nihilus both succeeded their master. Since I have not read up that much on thier histories, I asssume they didn't murder each other. It seems Sion was somehow convinced by Exile to kill himself, but I don't know what happened to Nihilus. KFan II 17:30, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Traya succeeded Malak in terms of becoming the more powerful of the Lords who would attempt to lead the Sith, but not necessarily take on the title "Dark Lord of the Sith". When Sion and Nihilus betrayed Traya, both took their own paths - neither unified the Sith under one command, and the persona of Darth Traya was temporarily abandoned. Sion does indeed kill himself, but before that (yet still at the end of KotOR II), Nihilus is vanquished on his ship by the Jedi Exile. Nufy8 18:01, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Speculation about Mew and Lucario

Could you please not insert speculation into the Mew (Pokémon) or Lucario articles unless you're prepared to cite sources? There's no evidence that Mew and Lucario are linked by evolution, as far as I'm aware. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 01:43, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

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I recreated the image from scratch since it's just the intersection of two circles, and reuploaded it. Please advise if that raises concerns for you. PS there is a wiki for LEGO, http://brickwiki.org, it's linkable here and it has a dearth of brickwiki:Bionicle articles. If you can add stuff there, that would be swell! Just make sure you adhere to how things are done there and you can be sure your additions will be well received. ++Lar: t/c 18:38, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] I know it

Hi. I think we know each other. Anyway, I found another competitor wiki and a... well, something related to Code: LYOKO. I'm also pretty sure I know who the leader/maker of Code Lyoko Wiki is, and he's at Code: WIKI. I'll only tell you this if you unblock me at Code: WIKI. And if you unblock, then block me indefinitely again, well... I have 4 other IP addresses. I promise I won't add anything about Code Aelita, either way. - 82Something

You forgot to unblock my IP address. It autoblocks the user account if it's been recently used by a blocked IP address. - IP Address

What's your IP address? KFan II 17:26, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

I forget most of it, but it begins with 67. It's the only one that begins with 67, and is currently blocked for infinite time. - Nam sdrawkcaB's IP address

There. I unblocked your IP adress. Now who created Code Lyoko and Code Lyoko Jc? I must know! KFan II 17:05, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Code WIKI's gone!

Code WIKI's gone! --User:Angie Y.

Oh no! This cannot be happening! I've contacted RobKohr, Angie, everything will be okay, I promise. Its a site error, Angie, nothing more. And if not, we'll recreate it via Wikia. Don't worry, Ang, Code: WIKI will not just disappear one day. I'll see to that! KFan II 02:41, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

I sure hope so. With all these disagreements we've been having, I'm sure it won't either. --User:Angie Y.

[edit] I am a Code:LYOKO fan, too!

I just wanted to say hello. Code:Lyoko's elements contain my favorite genres.

My favorite character is XANA. The plot twists are really neat, too, huh? Xana1 20:44, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

I agree thoroughly. Check out Code: WIKI, the free Code Lyoko wiki if you like it. The plots are excellent, I must agree. KFan II 02:10, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Homo, Template:Human Evolution, Homo (genus)

Please do not add nonsense to Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:18, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Look, why do you classify Wikipedians as another species if they are not? KFan II 16:19, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
What do you mean? Where are Wikipedians classified as another species? - UtherSRG (talk) 16:24, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
On this page. KFan II 18:45, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
Yes, that's a joke. It's not in the main encyclopedia. Consider this your last warning. Vandalize again and I'll block you. - UtherSRG (talk) 01:51, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
Sorry. Jeez. KFan II 01:52, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help!

Excuse me, al-mighty Supercomputer. I am Xana1, remember? I am blocked from Code:WIKI for doing nothing. Can you help? My IP address is 12.211.93.190. Thanks! Xana1 19:54, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Xana, you tried to delete everything. That's not what I call "not doing anything". KFan II 01:22, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Oh, yeah. Xana1 20:41, 11 May 2006 (UTC) 20:40, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

What do you have to say for yourself? KFan II 22:24, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

I heard that some guy using the name Xana hurt your Wiki. I didn't do it! P.S. That's what the 'oh, yeah' was for. Xana1 21:01, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

You can't worm yourself out of this. Your IP address, 12.211.93.190, was deleting everything on the wiki. KFan II 21:04, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

That was my brother! He deletes things on all my favorite websites! Have mercy! P.S. You are so cool.Xana1 20:11, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

You honestly think I'm going to believe that? KFan II 02:31, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, you are stupid, after all. Xana1 20:33, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Right. So, I'm very stupid. Because I am very stupid, I need you to explain to me why I should believe that. KFan II 21:34, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

That is the role of stupid people in American and World Society. To believe whatever their smarter superiors say without question or comment. Xana1 16:28, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

How dare you talk to me that way! I am the future Emperor of the Planet, and all opposition will be crushed when I take control! So respect me - you do not know what the future holds. What were we talking about again? Oh yes. How can Code: WIKI be sure you are not just making this "little brother" business of yours up? KFan II 17:00, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Because that is your place. Believe all your superiors like XANA, stupid monkey boy! P.S. With people like our beloved President Bush influencing America, you have no chance at even cleaning dishes for the government. Xana1 21:40, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

You are not my superior, and you just called me stupid. Well, I will have to talk to Angela about this... KFan II 22:55, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

XANA IS YOUR SUPERIOR NOW AND FOREVER MORE! --Xana1 20:06, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

If by "Angela" you mean me, KFan, then I'm all ears. --User:Angie Y.

Not you, Angie. I mean Angela Beesley, one of the primary administrators of Wikipedia. Is Angie really short for Angela? KFan II 19:25, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Hello? Hello? Anybody out there? I'm still here! P.S. How could you possibly be a genius if you didn't know Angie meant Angela?! Xana1 21:55, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

The Hello? Anybody out there? message was when I fits came to Wikiped the Pedia of All Pedias. And do not quetion my genius, Xana1! KFan II 00:19, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

You are full of grammar mistakes. Do not quetion my genius? message was when I fits? Weirdo! Xana1 19:53, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your reverted messages

There's a difference between discouraging current talk and spamming the same message on talk pages for no apparent reason. What you did was in no way helpful. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 22:49, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Someguy, it seems whatever you do is with reason, and whatever I do is stupid. Why is this so? KFan II 22:50, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Let me explain. You posted your message in sections which hadn't been responded to in weeks. They already dropped the discussion. You're not helping by posting that link in the section. It's also fairly clear you're only doing so because I discouraged your link spamming earlier. I am not saying anything about your actions being stupid. I'm saying they're inappropriate. At the very least, you should have been clearer in your messages. Just linking to the soapbox section isn't that helpful. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 22:56, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
One other thing. It's not very helpful to go about listing me and anyone else you disagree with as an enemy on your userpage. It only erodes your own position. For your own good, I'd suggest taking it down. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 22:57, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Its my userpage, you do not dictate what is on it and what is not. KFan II 23:38, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm not dictating anything. I'm suggesting for your own good that you take it down. It comes dangerously close to violating WP:CIVIL, and there's no point in breaking policy out of spite. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 23:48, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Look, Someguy, why don't we just make a compromise: I'll stop bothering you, and we put a link to Code: WIKI from the Code Lyoko page - once I've fixed it, of course. Due to the fact its offline, I can't really do that. KFan II 23:51, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
So, let me get this straight, you're blackmailing me? You're joking, right? I've told you why you're website doesn't belong. On top of that, it's a dead link until Thursday, so there's really no point in adding it. If and when you fix it I'd have no problem with you adding it, so that's not a concern, but believe me when I say you're a long way off. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 23:59, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
I wasn't blackmailing you, I'm I made it seem that way. What I mean is we've had this whole war about things, and it is not a dead link! The person who manages my servers, the Robert Kohr, is just moving my website to a more reliable network. I just want to stop fighting! How can you not see my point of view? Code: WIKI is a good site for several reasons.
  1. Although Wikipedia is an excellent site, Code: WIKI provides interesting information Wikipedia might overlook.
  2. It allows for general discussion about topics in semi-forum-like manner, which Wikipedia does not provide.
  3. It provides a vast array of images for secondary characters and episodes Wikipedia doesn't have.
  4. It mostly has canon, most fanon is in the process of being pointed out, marked, and/or destroyed.
  5. Code: WIKI provides in-depth infornmation about episodes, such as animation errors, trivia, and pictures for every episode - which we will have soon.

Someguy, you are just deleting the link to Code: WIKI out of spite, I know, because in the past, you had edited Code: WIKI, and banished you. I realize now that I was wrong - you were merely trying to help the site. The problem was that I (having not seen Season 2) thought you were trying to delete everything. I apologize for my brash response, but your edits were so drastic I misinterpreted them. You should have left notes on the talk pages that would have been considered by users.

I am sorry. You are welcome to contribute to Code: WIKI, its just that it will be offline until the week of May 14-20, during which it will reopen. Please reconsider the link thing. Look forward to various interesting debates on Code: WIKI! KFan II 00:08, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

I also did not make up the "Lyoko Monarch" entry. It's hinted at throughout the show, especially in "The Key". --User:Angie Y.

But you did, Angie, make up Leon Corbet. So, Someguy, what do you say? KFan II 00:22, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

The Lyoko Monarchy thing isn't canon (absolute masters =/= monarchy), and Leon Corbet is an actual person in the show, KFan. She's right about him. Also, you never banished me. I can edit there just as easily now as I could then. I choose not to because of confrontational and overly stubborn attitude you take on that website. I removed the link here because of the terribly inaccurate information I found while surfing that site. Also, a dead link is a link that doesn't work. Your link is dead for the moment. The description is accurate. Now to cover your points.

  1. Name one.
  2. Wikipedia isn't a forum, and the fact that you are more leinent about that on your website is not a qualifying factor.
  3. And? What does that have to do with anything? So you have more pictures. That doesn't mean your content is better (and it isn't).
  4. Last I checked, that process is nowhere near completed.
  5. This is the only thing that is somewhat relevant, but does not excuse the rest of your site. Wikipedia isn't a trivia site, so small animation errors are not a concern. Plus, I've read your trivia. It's wrong in quite a few instances. For example, the tower in "Teddygozilla" does glow red.
That pretty much covers my point. Generalized information on unimportant characters is not helpful, and images are only marginally so. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 00:27, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
Are you a pessimist, Someguy? Because why do you never look at the good things about Code: WIKI? KFan II 00:31, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
I look at the overall view. Unfortunately for you, most of that is pessimistic in nature. Your episode summaries are a good point, but they're not complete. Pictures are only so useful, and as I've mentioned in other talk pages, there are external links to complete galleries, eliminating the need for them to be here. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 00:36, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
So basically, what you're saying is that galleries with no captions whatsoever and no bios of the characters, episode sumaries, creator biographies, and other miscellanea, are better than Code: WIKI. Well, I've got ~50 users and more than 100000 views is a good site. KFan II 03:40, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

What biographes do you have? "This guy danced on a table." "This guy was a zombie." "This guy played soccer." How very useful. Don't overplay minor things in an attempt to bloat your site's importance. Also, your site has virtually zero Google hits, mostly due to your poor choice of a title. You don't have biographies of the minor characters, because nothing has been said about them. You have random facts. You don't have biographies of the creators, either. You have two-line entries that state what they do. You have completely biased articles on other websites, clearly demeaning then in favor of your own tiny wiki. You're constantly paranoid about every other Code Lyoko wiki on that site, even going to far to announce it as some sort of event. You keep blaming Angie for every problem I point out, even going so far as to accuse her of completely making up a factual article (Leon Corbet). I could go on. Point is, your site not nearly as important as you think it is. I suggest you realize that instead of cligning to your belief that 50 people (most of whom do not contribute) somehow makes your site important. At the rate you're going, your site will never be accurate. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 04:01, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Alright, you win, Someguy. Personally, I don't care. I wouldn't care if I had only one other user who contributed. Because some people like my site. I have at least seven people working on it, including Angie Y., myself, Gandalf1992, Xana, Magus, Sharp, and Backwards Man. Although they might not contribute anymore for whatever reason, that's all the people I need.

Oh, and by the way, all the other Code Lyoko wikis were made by people who did not like me. KFan II 04:06, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Code WIKI has a few problems

Code WIKI's name has been changed and very few people are editing now. For the Realm, I'll also need help creating the "upload file" directory, like on Code WIKI. --User:Angie Y.

Code: WIKI is experiancing problems because RobKohr moved the server. It will be up like it used to be in a few days, you can email RobKohr at (please don't put emails in plain text) if you have any further complaints. Please be patient with us during this time period. Thank you. KFan II 00:33, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Why be so formal? I'm your buddy. --User:Angie Y.

True. But anyhow, I've contacted RobKohr, and it should be fixed this weekend. June is coming up. Any ideas for a featured article? KFan II 01:59, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

How about a romance pairing? I'd say it's a tie between JimxSuzanne and OddxSissi. --User:Angie Y.

Gandalf1992 thinks that having a romance article would give our site a perverted look. And nobody likes JimxSuzanne! Your possibly the only person to ever menton it to me. And I don't like OddxSissi, and what the Supercomputer does not like does not go! Muahahaha! Yes I'm evil. Maybe we can have those later in the year. Maybe we should have an article about a website, like Lyokofreak or something? KFan II 02:16, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Okay, first off, KFan, CHILL!! And second, yeah. That's a good idea. --User:Angie Y.

Chill? What does that slang term mean? KFan II 02:20, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

That means "calm down". --User:Angie Y.

I see. Sorry. I've contacted RobKohr numerous times, he hasn't responded. Can you email him to urge him to do something? KFan II 02:25, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

I dunno if I myself can. --User:Angie Y.

What do you mean? KFan II 02:34, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

What I mean is, I might not get an immediate response. --User:Angie Y.

From whom? KFan II 02:44, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Rob Kohr. --User:Angie Y.

Well, still email him so he knows the Code: WIKI problems are causing lots of tension. KFan II 15:13, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

this is happening again but why prevent non loged in users from seeing pages not editing is enough plus no more new accounts Djf2014 14:25, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image uploading problem for The Realm of Lyoko

I have a problem. I can't get the Image uploading function of my wiki, The Realm of Lyoko, to work. --User:Angie Y.

Contact RobKohr about it. I don't run the servers. The email can be found further up the page. KFan II 02:53, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your Pokémon Master Userbox

I just removed that from your userpage. That image you used is copyrighted, you can't use it in a userbox. The Raven's Apprentice (Talk|Contribs) 15:31, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Future Emperor of the Planet"

No offense, but that is the most stupidest thing I have ever heard in my life. How can you ever be an emperor of the planet when you don't even know the difference between and Dark Hunter and a Toa? And by the way, wake up. There are a billion species of animals on Earth, and nobody can rule them. - Bioran23 Quick-Speak

Yeah, that is pretty stupid. Either that or you are just a resentful person, or you have megalomaniac tendencies. TB3 was right. You demand respect, but you never get any in return. You claim your edits are superior to others, and you even oppress me on Code WIKI whenever you feel like picking on someone. And you call me a loyal user. You are nothing but a bully and a total loser. --User:Angie Y.

First of all, Bioran, I do not think that knowing the difference between a few different Lego sets will be crucial in mz takeover of the world. And for that, Angie Y., you are forever banned from Code: WIKI. Backwards Man is your replacement. If you wish to apologize, do so. In any event, you are really a bad user who makes up a bunch of things. You probably have laughing spasms whenever Odd makes a bad joke on Code Lyoko. Enjoy the rest of your life, which will probably be full of more spasms and illegal marriages. KFan II 10:10, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

There problem is, I am not talking about "LEGO Pieces". I am talking about what lives on Earth and how on earth are you going to dominate it. - Bioran23 Quick-Speak

Bioran, if you really analyze all the needless details, you'll realize taking over the planet is extremely simple, its just nobody wants to do it. KFan II 09:49, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry KFan, but there are hundereds apon hundreds of people who want and have tried to take over the planet. Adolf Hitler, Napoleon, Roman Empire to name a few. And thats not everyone. If it was really simple, we'd have dictators everywhere. Please be nicer to other people, you blocked Angie for just getting mad for you treating her incorectly.--Bionicleman of BS01
Ya know...I've always wondered. You see, I'm the kind of guy who's considerate, and if someone were to have a problem with me, I'd try to talk it out. You, on the otherhand, throw your powers around, and have this "Get with it or else" attitude. Just a thought.....don't be such a donkey (in lighter terms) ~U
As Utopia said, we don't want to start a war among us...again. Is just that you need to be more considerate, rather than blocking your own users whenever they did something wrong. The problem with you is that you are not grateful of people helping you...you never said thanks to them...and when they oppose you because of you being so...self-conscious, you block them. That's not the way of things KFan, and if you continue like this, nobody will ever support you and make you the "Emperor of the Planet". Bioran23 - To the impossible
Because people do not respect me. On Code: WIKI, I am the leader. I started all of the major articles from scratch, and created the backbone of the website. I don't expect everyone to bow down and worship me, but I do expect them to not criticize me when I created the website. Nobody goes up to Jimmy Wales and says, "Mr. Wales, you're a total loser who sucks." I basically have the same rank as him on Code: WIKI, and do not enjoy it when people criticize me. So please just leave me alone and stop putting my talkpage full of crap. KFan II 06:02, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
I wasn't puting your talkpage full of crap (well, you could say Utopia and Bioran were, but not me). I was just pointing out that it is almost impossible to take over the world. And I do feel sorry for you, believe it or not. Both Nuipedia and Code:LYKO were overun with vandallism, but did you ever consider why? I understand that people don't treat you with respect, but that is because you don't treat them with respect. The reason Jimmy Wales isn't treated like that is because he is nice to his members. Just because someone does something to you, doesn't mean you have the right to treat them that way. If you start being nice to your members, then they will surly start being nicer to you.--Bionicleman of BS01 14:03, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Ah, but then again, what are we all doing? We are all trying to tell K Fan that his ways and methods are wrong, and that he should change them. Critiquing him on his ill behaved mannerisms -- that's what we are all doing. K Fan considers that "crap", but that's the way he sees it. But as for the pity Bionicleman seems to give you, I don't give mine. Sympathy is something I give to those who have not deserved the pain they feel. However, in your situation, I believe there is one saying that does this topic justice: What goes around, comes around. You mistreat your members, so they reserve the right to mistreat you back. (As a side note, I do not understand why you have removed my comment about the donkey Bioran. Wikipedia obviously allows some freedom of speech, so you have no dictation over my words.) ~U

Hmm, I knew being a nice person would get me someday. No, what Bioran and Utopia said was not crap, they were not saying you suck, they were trying to tell you to be nicer to people. I no longer pity you, I think you need to see the error in your ways, and learn that just because someone is mean to you, doesn't give you the right to bully others. I'm not trying to be mean, I'm trying to make you a better person, and spend the energy you're spending on "taking over the world" instead on something better for the world.--Bionicleman on BS01
When I take over the world, it will be a better place. I am only planning to do so for the betterment of humanity. It is obvious the world is about to fall apart; the US is lead by an idiot, Iran is threatening the world, Israel and Lebanon are concerned with their own little gains, etc. whilst they bomb the planet around them, Hungary and Slovakia are on the brink of war, and Russia (as usual) is planning the final stages for blowing up the nearest non-Soviet Socialist Republics. We need new leadership here! A monarch, wise and fair, who will restore humanity to its former *cough* glory. Of course, I cannot expect a simpleton to understand these complex affairs, so, I will just put it in a way you will probably understand, "Yo! Dude, this ain't your turf, so get your nose outta my business and personal affair-ins!"

So yes, please leave me alone. KFan II 19:29, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

You forget to mention how a simpleton like yourself will possibly take over the world. I know of all these complex situations, and you seem to overestimate the power of a kid who runs wikis. Personally, I find it funny that you try to put your words in a way "we would understand", as it seems like we understood enough of your talk, which does not seem to differ from what you say now. Basically, you are trying to say we are below you, when that is not the case. But, I still cannot see how your taking over the world will make it better. Yes, we have many conflicts, but can you grasp the fact that a Utopia will never exist? Even if you found some way to rule, there would be a rebellion. Humans are innately agressive, so war is going to happen. And this former glory you speak of: what former glory? All past civilizations that have fallen, fell because their way of life failed. There is no way for a Utopia to exist, and humans will forever rebel. Have you ever seen the movie Sleeper? It speaks a lot, in the fact that just because you overturn one government, doesn't mean life will be good again. People will become corrupted, and many folks won't agree and will rebel. I could go on, but I'd rather not. I can all see that it is useless to try to knock some sense into you, as your brain has already slipped into a realm of fantasy. ~U
The world is based on fantasy. 500 years ago, people told Leonardo Da Vinci, "Flying machines? You boob - that is in the realm of fantasy!" Only 20 or so years ago, people told the creators of the Internet, "This is stupid! Your ideas are in the realm of fantasy!" Fantasy is reality, and eventually becomes it. People during Jesus's time thought that a carriage that moved itself was totally fantasy - today, we have the car. The sky is the limit, as they say.

Plus, I have a very complex plan already formulated for my takeover of the world. And by the way, people don't rebel if there is nothing to dislike. Wars will always happen, that is inevitable, yes, but who said I wanted to destroy conflict? Utopia is stupid. A perfect society without conflict would be totally boring. Conflict is what makes life enjoyable. For example, that is why people make video games. Video games create fictional conflict people wish to prevail in, which is why people buy them. If you bought a video game then immediately won, then there would be no industry. If you got whatever you wanted as soon as you wished for it, life would be totally lame. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to bed. KFan II 20:01, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

You're wrong. Flying Machines and moving carriages are different. They are a achievable object that doesn't change, so to speak. A Monarchy is different. It requires perfect accpetance by the people, and no matter what, people will disagree by something, no matter how wonderfull it is. Think about Star Wars. Think of yourself as Darth Sidios. He created an Empire, but even with the power of the Empire, it was stopped by the weak Rebels. And if the Star Wars saga would continue, it would still be back in forth between different types of Goverment. No matter what, there will be change, and a world without change is preety much impossible.--Bionicleman of BS01
I dont' quite understand. You keep talking about different conflicts in the world, and say that you must rule to world to stop them and restore humanity. Then you go off to say that you want conflict. But if so, aren't you just back at square one? If you wish to have conflict, then people will rebel, and your world will not be perfect. Thus humanity will not be restored and chaos will rule yet again. Conflict leads to war, which leads to chaos. You say you want conflict, meaning you want chaos. How is that different from what is happening in the world today? It isn't. This brings me back to my original point: Overturning a gov't will not be better in the long run. Taking over the world will just cause rebels to take the world from you. If you say there won't be rebels, than that means that you will rule with an iron fist. If you rule like a dictator, then chaos has already ensued. It's a never ending cycle, and your dreams of world domination will not change that.

But wait...we mustn't forget the key point here... It's literally impossible to take over the world. ~U

You know what KFan? There is something you lack, and that is called kindness. People come, help you, and you either treat them as slaves or shoo them away. Now, why don't we all imagine what will happen if you are the emperor of the planet. You will do the same things you did to people on the net, making them slaves, bossing them around etc. It will be a "very great world" indeed. (Note the sacarsm) I don't mean to be rude (And if I am, I offer my deepest apologies...), but KFan, shut up. Bioran23 - To the impossible

I must say, I do apologize for how my staff has been behaving towards you, KFan...

However, I plainly will join them. See, the thing is, I do remember a tyrant taking over a country and doing things to it... Fidel Castro was one, Saddam Hussein was another. I also remember their promises of a brighter future without the likes of "those dirty Americans." So, I mean to be bold when I say, shaddup. -Swert BS01 Co-Owner

That's great Swert :P "I'm sorry for their attitudes, but here comes mine!" <-- Cracks me up.
Anywhoo...this discussion probably will get no where. (Sorry B-Man, your helping this guy become kind is a lost case.) Something must be wrong with you, but somehow you seem to ignore that fact and continue on your ways. K Fan, please at least try to take something from this. Be nicer at least? I mean, to a degree we are all being rude to someone else here (depends on your point of view), but what caused this chaos was literally your behavior in the first place. At first, it started as a remark on how trying to take over the world was out of anyone's grasp. Then things just boiled from there, as we tried to tell you that world domination is impossible, and that you ought to change your behavior, of all people. Unfortunately, something is wrong here, and neither are reachable dreams -- like world conquest. So now there are really only two things to do from here. You could try to see someone else's point of view, instead of believing you are always right (trust me, it doesn't work XD ). Or....we can continue this talk, but I believe that everyone is tired of all of this, so... Choose. ~U
Yes, I'm sick of this discussion, and I wish I could make you a better person, but that is a lost cause. I don't think you will become a "Darth Vader", so to speak. Make your choise, continue acting like this, and you will grow up with no friends or family, and live your live as an empty shell, vying for someone to take you in, and try taking over the world, but just fail in the very early stages. Or, you could start being nicer to people, give up this whole "Take over the world thing", and live life with friends that actually respect you. You can either have a good life, or a bad life, depends on your choise right here.--Bionicleman of BS01 16:42, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

This is stupid. I'm tired of this needless conversation. I agree with Bionicleman, let's stop and not argue about each other's beliefs. KFan II 15:48, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Exactly, you're intitled to your own opinion, after all. Even though I do wish you would be nicer to others and give up the "take over the world", you can't have everything.--Bionicleman of BS01
You are intitled to your own opinion, but we are here to try and mold that. This conversation is only being needless because you won't listen and learn from it. Basically, we are trying to tell you that being rude and trying to take over the world is wrong, and if you really want to help this earth, think on a smaller scale, then move up, and try to be nicer? Being nice will at least help one person in the world, and that is yourself. ~U

Look KFan, all we want is for you to properly treat your workers and apologise to those who has tried so hard to help you yet you still chase them away. Doing that, and we will leave you alone forever. Bioran23 - To the impossible

Looks like KFan II is ignoring us. I guess you don't want to change.--Bionicleman (talk) 00:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] We're All In Danger

KFan, I know that we are all at odds here, but the AAH Vandal has declared outright war against all Code Lyoko wikis and destroyed Angie Y's talk page and vandalized her userpage as a warning. This AAH guy is bucking to take over Code: WIKI. If you've got any ideas on how to approach this, we're all ears. Just thought I'd give you the heads-up. --Jeremie@theLab 02:26, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

The AAH vandal is an idiot. His vandalisms to Angie's userpage and "quick-speak", as you call it, is none of my concern. Angie is an enemy of Code: WIKI, I do not care what happens to anything she controls. You ask for a way to approach this problem? Well, Jeremie@theLab, if you are so concerned about Code: WIKI's problems with vandalisms, please revert the edits done by such people as AAH. KFan II 18:52, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Wow. Oh my. I am so offended XD (*screams hysterically* not) Bioran23 - To the impossible

Once again, Bioran, you speech is not understandable by a sentient lifeform. Please rephrase you comment. KFan II 09:48, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Very well then un-sentient lifeform. And it is not my problem that you are not sentient and does not understand what a guardian of the great spirit is saying. I suggest you to take english lessons to improve your communication skills. Bioran23 - To the impossible

I frankly do not care about your insults. I am informing an Admin about your rude behavior, something that is not tolerated on Wikipedia. KFan II 14:44, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Just in the discussion above this one, you said that Angie's life will be full of spasms and illegal marriages. Now, that isn't exactly polite, is it? 82 00:36, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Also in the discussion above, Angie called me a total loser. Now, that isn't exactly polite, is it? KFan II 13:19, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Hey KFan, I am not being rude to you no more than you are being rude to me! Bioran23 - To the impossible

[edit] sorry

Sorry accordiing to wikipedia policy We can not post code wikis link on the code lyoko page Djf2014 12:52, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

You did not even try to do so. KFan II 14:49, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

He posted a link to his Xiaolin wiki on Xiaolin Showdown, and it was removed. The reason was that it was advertising. The same would go for Code: WIKI. 82 00:36, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Why? Is there any other wiki for Code Lyoko? KFan II 06:16, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

There's Code Aelita, but it keeps getting its head blow off by vandals. No one even works on it anymore, and all the articles are blank. --Jeremie@theLab 14:41, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Exactly. Code Lyoko used to be the best Code Lyoko wiki out there. Once its restored, which will happen before September, then it will be the best option for additional info on Code Lyoko. KFan II 19:28, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Code: WIKI

In short, no. I don't really feel like working the whole thing from ground up. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 06:41, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Most articles are not gone, only a few. Not the whole thing, a little bit of it. I'm asking for your help. There's in an irony in that, so you can laugh and say, "Haw haw! You're ironic!", but I'd like you to help. After all, Wikipedia is very restricting in information sometimes, and I think you would be a good addition to the team. KFan II 06:45, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Angie Y

I read Angie y talk page and she wants back Djf2014 15:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

She said she doesn't want to return. That's fine with me, as long as you learn how to write. Somebody has to help me make articles. KFan II 19:49, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Ya know K Fan, I've always wondered about you. You have this characteristic....that can't be explained. Basically hyprocritical is the only way I can really describe it...it's just pure odd. The whole 'take over the world' think I find terribly funny...just because you think it's easy. Ha....--U
True point Utopia...The point is, people come and help, then you chase them away, so you will end up with nobody helping you :P Bioran23 - To the impossible
My personality is not the topic of discussion here. And who has ever come and helped me that I have chased away? KFan II 05:57, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
I have helped your CODE:Wiki four times already. Bioran23 - To the impossible
Vandalism is not exactly help, but you can live in your own little world where you think vandals=legimate editors with your Toa if you want. KFan II 18:32, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
I beg to differ KFan, I helped you REVERT vandalism, I never vandalised on your new CODE: Wiki. I may have did some vandalism on Nuipedia, but I have never vandalised your Code: Wiki. Bioran23 - To the impossible

No She says she is upset that you blocked her for a year Djf2014 13:03, 5 August 2006 (UTC) 13:02, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

KFan needs to stop being so autocratic. --User:Angie Y.

What? Since when is autocracy deemed "bad"? In any event, however, Angie Y. is here, and she will tell us, Dj2014, whether she "wants back" (although I do not want to point out the stupid grammar there) or not. So, Angie, please tell us all whether you "want back" (again using this incorrect English just to prove my point) or whatever your desire is with me, as you are all wasting my space on this talkpage. KFan II 08:15, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Emperor Caligula

The Roman Empire has attacked again. 82 13:07, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Djf2014

I checked on things on Code: WIKI, and Djf2014 is doing absolutely nothing about the current vandalism. He is also provoking the admin of Dannypedia. No offense to Djf, but I think you should replace him. The Other Lyokon would be a good candidate. 82 03:21, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hello person I don't know

Hello. I am new here. I wish I still had my comfy chair. I has been stolen, I think by a zombie. If you didn't know I am a professional zombie killer. I also like movies, such as mosqito and the blob (1980's remake). I like shogo which like everyone else I talk to, you probably don't know what it is and I wont bother explaning it. I still wish I had some dominics pizza and my comfy chair. please talk to me because this is starting to get boring. THE END.--ShogoFan3000 22:52, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Oh, well, hello, Mr. Professional Zombie Killer. How exactly do you kill a zombie? And what's up with zombies - are they dead or alive? And why chose me to talk to you. If Wikipedia is boring, leave it. Wikipedia is supposed to be a community effort, you know. Its not a chatroom! KFan II 00:02, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Equal Rights, and other things

you recently replyed to my post on Bioniclepedia, and sence you are most likely to read it here, I'll just copy/paste what you said:


Okay, KFanII, I'm trying to help you by reverting the vandallism and trying to get you to accept LL, when you delete my user page and claim that the two of us (LL and me) are planning a coup against you. Now you're making me mad. You do not own the site, if you want to own a site, go and make one yourself. And there is no such thing as a grand admin, all admins have equal powers. And he isn't ruining it. He just changed the icon and removed the false info (And don't say it isn't false, because it is). All he wanted was his own bionicle wiki, he did not want Nuipedia, but Angela gave him admin powers on Nuipedia. It isn't a coup at all. And stop saying that you are like a king, you are no better than anyone else. As the Declaration of Independence says, "All Men (and women And animals - Bioran23 Quick-Speak) are created equal, that they are endowned by their creator, with certain unalienable rights, that among thease are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happyness". Memorize those words, Thomas Jefferson is smart. You are equal to Bioran, me, Legolover, and everyone else on this planet.--Bionicleman 22:17, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

You forgot to mention that as the Internet does not belong to any country, I do not have to obey the Constitution on the Internet. And if Thomos Jefferson was so good, why was he a slave owner? And all Admins do not have the same rights. There is something known as a Beurorcat, that is, someone who can change the rights of Admins, like Jimmy Wales. And don't lecture me. I don't care about Bioniclepedia anymore, or whatever this website is called now. KFan II 03:01, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Here we go again. I know you don't care about Bioniclepedia anymore, but I also posted that a long time ago, when you actually cared about that site. Sure it doesn't belong to any country, which is good. Every one has bad qualities, I do, you do, Jefferson does, George Bush does, everyone. Being a slave owner doesn't make someone evil, nor does it make them good. Jefferson, like most people, was a good person in most ways. As for the admin thing, well you would think I would know that, being an admin on BS01. Yes, not all admins have equal powers, but, you don't own the site. You have every right to act as you are acting, even though it is wrong and hurtfull. EVERONE desirves equal rights, and that doesn't make you the best person in the dang world. Infact, in the whole scheme of things, you are only a small seed in a huge forest. And I'm a seed too. And so is every other person. But all the seeds are equal, despite their differences. On a side note, do you happen to have email or any other form of communication outside of wiki's? Thanks.--Bionicleman (talk) 17:28, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What's wrong with Bioniclepedia?

Why do you not like LegoLover or the name Bioniclepedia so much.Legolover just wants to help.And Bioniclepedia sounds cool. Grand loser 08:12, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:Edddd.gif)

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