Talk:Keyser Söze

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I am not certain this character qualifies as a serial killer. Brutal? Homicidal? Certainly, but those characteristics do not make him a serial killer. There's nothing to suggest that anyone he's killed were due to some psychological compulsion of his. Does anyone oppose removing him from this list?

Contents 1 Who is Keyser Soze 2 Kobayashi 3 Spoiler changes 4 Does Keyser Soze exist? 5 Keyser Soze and Dr. Dolittle 6 Verifiability/Orginal Research issues

[edit] Who is Keyser Soze

Its not confirmed that Spacey was indeed Soze and there is even some dispute by the actors in the film as to who he is. The director I believe also mentioned that he wasn't neccessarily Soze.

There is one thing the movie is clear about - the entire story is a LIE. Any attempt to try to pull any facts out of it is silly because we know that EVERYTHING we know is Verbal's version of events, and since we pretty sure VERBAL does not exist... it would make sense that neither do ANY facts.

The devil's biggest trick is to make the world think he doesn't exist. This story's biggest trick is to make you think ANY of it actually took place.

[edit] Kobayashi

Just a thought - this article states Soze's attorney was called Kobayashi but the revelatory sequence at the end makes it clear that "Kobayashi" was just a name that Kint read on the bottom of Agent Kujan's coffee cup so do we really know what the Pete Postlethwaite character was actually called? Richard Barlow 15:45, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Spoiler changes

I gave Keyser's identity its own warning label after the traditional spoiler tag. While Soze's history is a spoiler in and of itself, his true identity is the main plot twist of the story. King Zeal 22:51, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Does Keyser Soze exist?

I think the line In the final scenes of the movie, it is revealed that Verbal himself is Keyser Soze needs to be changed since it's POV. There is a strong implication in the film that this is the case, but it's not certain and is open to other interpretations. One of which is that Keyser Soze doesn't actually exist at all - since practically all scenes in the film are Verbal's narration, there's no proof that any of them actually took place. — SteveRwanda 12:01, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

I see where you're coming from but the argument of whether any of the film happened due to Kint's fabrication is just too much of a nuisance. The line needs to be drawn. Satchfan 07:31, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

That's nonsense. The story's biggest strength is it's ability to make you refuse to believe it's a lie simply because it's such a good story. This is where the movie really becomes greater than traditional narrative. Like 'American Beauty', it makes you willfully ignore the facts of the narrative because you have affection for the story.thumpinc May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Keyser Soze and Dr. Dolittle

Is a dog in the "Dr. Dolittle" movie sayin "Keyser Soze??? I THINK SO

[edit] Verifiability/Orginal Research issues

Hi all -- I'm flagging this article for failing to follow Wikipedia's policies on verifiability and original research. In short, the culture impact, meaning of name, trivia, and media sections all need to be cited to reliable independent sources. --Tcatts 20:00, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Your opinion has been noted and rejected. This article details a fictional character, the only source of information available being a copyrighted motion picture script. The claims cannot be verified.