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  1. October 2005 – December 2005
  2. January 2006 – March 2006
  3. April 2006 – June 2006
  4. July 2006 – September 2006
  5. October 2006 – December 2006
  6. January 2007 – March 2007
  7. April 2007 – June 2007
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updated 26 March 2007 — (changes • edit)


Contents

Gulp

Thanks for the message, Kevin. So, having supported Huck Finn for nomination I'm in the frame to help, eh? Will try to get to that. (Makes mental note not to support anything for nomination in the future ;)) --Sordel 13:27, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Not serious, no, but you couldn't have picked a worse month ... I'm hoping to finish the Poirot sequence over the next two weeks because I'm busy after that. Still, I'll try to get over to Twain before November. --Sordel 20:52, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Novels list

ow... I got very busy with the startup of WP:VP2. I can try to run tonight or tommarrow night. Sorry about that. —— Eagle (ask me for help) 22:48, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Sacred Hunger

Thanks for helping me with the article, I didn't have enough information to complete the infobox. Is there a site or method for finding the first edition of a novel? I had a look on a couple of sites but I wasn't sure which edition was the first. The one on amazon was a newer version I believe. Could you help me find the cover for the book as well?

Thanks for your help, and sorry for my inexperience with the novels area. I'm writing up a plot summary for the book at the moment, it will probably take me a week or two to skim through the book again (it's been many months since I read it) and then condense it into a synopsis.

Kind regards, Richard001 07:34, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. I haven't been able to get a good picture of the first edition, I found one from a side angle and one here [1] that's too small. I guess it will have to be left blank for now, unless the Norton paperback or some other edition would be suitable, or a picture of the original hardback can be found somehow. I'll get back to the article in a few days time and add some more material as you suggested. I've taken a look at the novels wikiproject and it was very helpful for starting the article, I'll try to keep to the format and look at other novel articles for examples. Thanks again, Richard001`

The Magic Christian

Hi, I had a long day yesterday splitting the novel from the film and correcting all the many links in articles pointing to each. Now the original The Magic Christian article has turned into the disambiguation page and all former edit history (as I noted in both articles' discussions) is to be found there. The novel stub is at The Magic Christian (novel) and links to The Magic Christian (film) too. The user who had started the original article, as a novel, got a bit upset to find it turned into a stub, so any further work on the novel will be very appreciated. I have created book infobox with an image I uploaded and moved there a former version of the original before it started getting mixed with film entries. Hoverfish 11:09, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

I am running it now

you know what this is for :) Yes I will look into making a tool for others to use. —— Eagle (ask me for help) 19:04, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

P.S. I am really sorry.
I am having heck doing this... the query.php interface got changed somewhere in the last month or so... I am working on this full time. —— Eagle (ask me for help) 23:30, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Almost done. 1500 to go... —— Eagle (ask me for help) 01:34, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Hate to say it, but that means we have more articles. Basically we have tagged more articles improperly then we have fixed. There were approx 4300 articles using the {{Infobox Book}} template.`The criteria are the same. —— Eagle (ask me for help) 13:18, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
I can run other lists in about 8 hours. Want others run? —— Eagle (ask me for help) 13:21, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

The Novels WikiProject Newsletter - Issue V - October 2006

The Novels WikiProject Newsletter
Issue V - October 2006
Project news
  • Our project has been working on novel articles for sometime now and has just passed the 4000 articles tagged as part of the project. Already we are on 4441 as of today.
  • The /Assessment department has been making progress with discussions on the top priority level of novels. These are those articles that should be present in any version of this encyclopedia.
  • The "Members" list has been modified (preparatory to removing the inactive ones to an archive or "inactive" list).
Member News
  • The project has currently 142 members, 16 joined & 0 leavers since the last newsletter at the start of September 2006.
From the Members

Welcome to the fifth issue of the Novels WikiProject's newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do.

We would encourage all members to get more envolved and if you are wondering what with, please ask.

Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk), Initiating Editor
Auto list news
  • Those working on auto generated lists have been a bit quiet recently. However there have been some work done on the /NovelsInCompleteInfobox list, focusing on adding those missing "genre" entries - however after being rerun today after a 2 month gap the number of articles selected has gone up from 1049 to 1172. We need help to ensure the informatin gets added to the infoboxes.
Collaboration of the Month
Current debates
Newsletter challenge
  • The first person to start the article is mentioned in the next newsletter. This months' article is Liponym.

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House Made of Dawn Redux

Hiya. All the mess with House Made of Dawn looks to be kicking off again. Could you do me a favour and keep an eye on it? HQCentral's bullying tactics can get a little wearing if anyone has to face him individually (look at all the fights he's had at Collier's Dictionary for evidence). Cheers! Vizjim 09:51, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Wilson covers

Thanks. Unfortunately I don't have any of those books so I can't replace the covers myself. I tried to find out exactly why the covers were removed, and from what I can see the fellow who uploaded them got into an argument with people who felt the covers shouldn't be used and decided to remove all his uploads out of fear of copyright violation. It seems he might have also used photographs of the covers rather than actual scans (maybe he has no scanner) but that shouldn't make a difference in terms of fair use. Just the tone of the discussion (I don't have a link but check the history of Cosmic Trigger I and you'll see the fellow who removed the images) led me to wonder whether something hadn't changed ... again. 23skidoo 14:30, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

{NovelsWikiProject}

Hi Kevin, I'm not sure how to go about using AWB to put the novelswiki template on talk pages. Grey Shadow 14:55, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Hercule Poirot

Kevin, I've finished today my immediate task of producing B-class articles for all the late Poirot novels (pretty much everything after Death on the Nile). I've also done quite a lot of work on the Hercule Poirot article itself and I'd appreciate it if you could find some time to take a look at its current state, reassess it, and let me know how we could think about getting it up to A-class. Thanks in advance. --Sordel 16:55, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the investment of time to check this (and for the encouragement). As I understood it, one isn't supposed to nominate for GA status something that one has worked on oneself. Is that wrong? --Sordel 08:10, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Liberty

Thanks for that. --Guinnog 13:31, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Novels project

I'd really rather not. I want to keep the userboxes and categories to a minimum. (The babel categories are irritating enough - I'm inclined to subst them and remove the categories). john k 23:13, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't have any other categories based on wikiprojects, so it feels awkward to give myself one based on that. I'm on the list of users, I feel as though that's sufficient. john k 10:39, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Ayesha

Thanks for the photo and infobox details on Ayesha -- awesome you got a photo of the first edition! --Bookgrrl 12:03, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Olympic Barnstar

The Olympics Barnstar
You are awarded this barnstar for your monumental contributions to expanding Olympic coverage on Wikipedia.Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 08:26, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Orphaned fair use image (Image:VladimirNabokov lolita.jpg)

Thanks for uploading Image:VladimirNabokov lolita.jpg. I notice the 'image' page currently specifies that the image is unlicensed for use on Wikipedia and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable under fair use (see our fair use policy).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. – Quadell (talk) (random) 14:06, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

A Series of Unfortunate Events

Hi,

I know you're very busy, but I wonder if you'd mind taking another look at the articles pertaining to the book series A Series of Unfortunate Events. You added a standard infobox to one of the 13 main book articles, The Austere Academy (I guess you're working through a list alphabetically) on 29 September, and to my surprise, no-one has tried to revert the article to the style of infobox which the other articles have (about which I shall refrain from commenting). I listed the other books under InfoboxNeeded on 5 October, but for some reason, the listing was removed by user:N4nojohn on 25 October 2006. I've just noticed, and added them again.

I have been working to raise the standard of these articles for some time, in the face of well-intentioned but utterly unencyclopedic contibutions from young enthusiasts. I think that the addition of proper infoboxes with relevant content would help to improve the standard of these articles immensely. In any case, having one article out of a series of thirteen with a different style infobox just seems odd.

I know I could do it myself, but with all the film and novel articles getting split by amateurs these days, I've got my hands full with link repair at the moment, with a big backlog of film related articles waiting to be worked on. Besides, it's posible that such changes could prove controversial, and I'll find them easier to defend if I haven't made them myself. ;)

Any chance of jumping the queue?

  1. Lemony Snicket - The Bad Beginning
  2. Lemony Snicket - The Reptile Room
  3. Lemony Snicket - The Wide Window
  4. Lemony Snicket - The Miserable Mill
  5. Lemony Snicket - The Austere Academy
  6. Lemony Snicket - The Ersatz Elevator
  7. Lemony Snicket - The Vile Village
  8. Lemony Snicket - The Hostile Hospital
  9. Lemony Snicket - The Carnivorous Carnival
  10. Lemony Snicket - The Slippery Slope
  11. Lemony Snicket - The Grim Grotto
  12. Lemony Snicket - The Penultimate Peril
  13. Lemony Snicket - The End (A Series of Unfortunate Events)


It's only twelve.... it could be worse....

TheMadBaron 15:27, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the note - my main interest (for reasons which even I don't understand) is in disambiguation, so if you have any dab work you'd like to dump on me, please feel free. TheMadBaron 14:16, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
managed to get some done - after a fashion need some more work
These are done - but looks like there might eb a fourteenth

Wikiproject banner addition

Hi Kevin - thanks for the comment - I wasn't sure whether or not to, and since most templates are I decided to go with that. I'll just use the template in future :D. Ck lostsword|queta!|Suggestions? 16:45, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Good advice. Thanks very much again - it's always useful to have someone correcting you on the finer points of Wikipedia. See you around. Ck lostsword|queta!|Suggestions? 17:33, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Novels Collaboration of the Month

You supported Doctor Zhivago, which has been selected as the Novels WikiProject's new Collaboration of the Month. Please help improve this article towards featured article standard. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 11:20, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

LoC

Yeah, you're right. I know all about the ISBN-13s too. I'm not only a cataloger, but I also order textbooks for my school. Thanks for your comment. Cheers! Pegship 16:32, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

re: Rook

Okay, I was just trying to get people aware of the novel's.

Blindness (Saramago)

Hello, I just thought I'd tell you that I copy edited what I think you wrote on this novel. It was great, but I'm under the impression it should be much shorter? Do you mind if I cut it some? I'm relatively new to wikipedia and don't want to step on any toes. (Especially those of a Saramago fan . . .)DianaW 19:13, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

The Novels WikiProject Newsletter: Issue VI - November 2006

The Novels WikiProject Newsletter
Issue VI - November 2006
Project news
  • Due to the diligance of many editors we now have more than 5000 articles tagged as part of the project.
  • The /Assessment department has been making progress with discussions on the top priority level of novels. These are those articles that should be present in any version of this encyclopedia.
  • The "Members" list has been modified with a short archive or "inactive" list).
Member News
  • The project has currently 170 members, 28 joined & 0 leavers since the last newsletter at the start of October 2006. Of these 7 have been moved to a short "Inactive" list due to not contributing to Wikipedia for at least six months. They are free to reactivate themselves at any time, of course!
From the Members

Welcome to the sixth issue of the Novels WikiProject's newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do.

We would encourage all members to get more envolved and if you are wondering what with, please ask.

Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk), Initiating Editor
Auto list news
  • The NovelsInCompleteInfobox has been regenerated at the start of October and was shown to have grown rather than shrunk! So this month I have concentrated my efforts (with some help from Grey Shadow (talk • contribs)) on the novels missing "genre" tags. These "genre-less" have now "all" been dealt with. Hopefully we can break the back of this load of work, but it will need help. It would be nice to get these worklists to a state where they can monitor the newly created articles rather than cleaning the retrospective material.
Collaboration of the Month
  • The Collaboration of the Month is going well. October's collaboration was slightly compromised by the removal of our notice early on; however there were still nearly 80 edits to improve the article. This months Collaboration has been selected by popular vote and is Doctor Zhivago (novel)
Current debates
  • We have a project structure that allows for the formation of special interest task forces (al la "WP:MILHIST".) This is useful for identifying groups of Novels editors who have a common interest. (i.e. Science fiction novels, Crime Novels, Children's novels, Classic literature, Russian novels etc.) Would there be interest out there in setting one or more of these up. Comments please to the General Forum.
Newsletter challenge

Last months Liponym challenge was met by Springeragh (talk • contribs), but the article is still a "very" small stub.

  • The first person to start the article is mentioned in the next newsletter. This months' article is Lawrence Durrell's novel Clea.

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Literature quiz

Hi, I'm about to add a short literature quiz to Portal:Literature. Please tell me if you don't like it or if you have any suggestions. The questions should not be changed automatically on a weekly basis. Rather, I'd replace a question with a new one whenever we've had some reaction (hopefully the correct answer).

All the best, <KF> 15:35, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Farmer in the Sky

Science fiction novel is a list of science fiction novels. I went ahead and changed it to the genre you were looking for (Science fiction novel). -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs) 15:57, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Worklist

This page, the first table being the Assessment Grades one, does not show up properly - of course it might be my browser use V2 Firefox. Cheers --Lethaniol 12:47, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Have just checked IE that works fine - ah it is because I use a 12 inch laptop and I increase the text size in Firefox by one so that I can read better. Normally that does not effect any wikipedia pages - only this one it appears. I wonder if it can be fixed. Sorry for the confusion. Cheers --Lethaniol 12:47, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Yep that looks much better for me in firefox - not so hot in IE as you mentioned. Not sure if this is a problem or not. Will most wikipedians who would be doing lots of editing and helping out with wikiprojects be using firefox or not - hmmmm. Cheers though --Lethaniol 15:24, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Definately

I'd enjoy working with you on creating some pages for any of the Chronicles. As I have never done anything on Wiki more advanced that editing spelling/grammer randomly as I see it, I'd prefer to follow your lead until I become more confident. However I have tons of free time (being retired and all) which means anything I worked on I could devote some time on. Sort of look at it like you assign the homework, and I'll try and complete it in stages. Coradon

I agree

Seems like more than just us have a passing interests in the Chronicles. Coradon

Chapter Fourteen AFD

An article that you have been involved in editing, Chapter Fourteen, has been listed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chapter Fourteen. Please look there to see why this is, if you are interested in whether it should be deleted. Thank you. --CyberGhostface 22:43, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Pern novels

Hi Kevin, The Dragonriders of Pern novels, Dragonquest etc, are considered science fiction by many (including the author). Some consider them science fiction/fantasy novels. Grey Shadow | Talk 13:16, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

As the Dragonriders of Pern article states, while the earlier novels don't have much in the way of science fiction trappings. The later ones do involve more advanced tech, including satellites, genetic engineering and involve an AI computer. The last one I read, All the Weyrs of Pern would be science fiction. Grey Shadow | Talk 14:11, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
No problem. Glad I could be of some help. Cheers! Grey Shadow | Talk 14:28, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

hello

hi kevinalewis, i see you edited my work on The Stars' Tennis Balls- thanks! So i guess i am to understand that infoboxes should be left with their incomplete sections standing. i will do that in future. i just asked a question about book cover images here - if you can answer my questions at some point here or there i would be grateful. cheers, Mujinga 16:04, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

ok. thanks for pointing me in the right direction! Mujinga 17:27, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Posting on my talk

Please stop posting personal messages on my talk page about subjects where we have a specific thread ([2]). I'm very well aware of that discussion on Template talk:Infobox Book, so there is no need to repeatedly echo that on my talk page. Thank you. --Ligulem 08:44, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Your edits to the Iain Banks articles

Hi. I have two comments to make about these edits you are doing.

  1. Your addition of the stub-class assessment on the article talk pages is rather demotivating; I spent several tens of hours researching and writing these articles to the standard they are at now. In many cases I started them from scratch. I question whether your additions will make me inclined to improve the articles further. At the speed you are editing, I also wonder just how carefully you are researching your assessments. To have them so cursorily dismissed as stub-class, without any further suggestions about how you think they should be improved, seems slightly insulting and very unhelpful.
  2. The default you are adding to the format field in the infobox looks clumsy: the repeated capitalisation in the Paperback, Hardback looks ugly and seems ungrammatical as these are not proper nouns. I'm also not sure I even agree that the first edition cover is preferable.

I do appreciate that you are trying to improve and standardise our coverage of novels; I just question whether this is a good way to do it, or whether others, like me, may find it demotivating. Best wishes, --Guinnog 12:57, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. Perhaps the fault lies in the wording. Using "stub" in Wikipedia would usually indicate an article which contains very little information and is little more than a placeholder of a paragraph or two. Anything beyond that would not merit the tag. If you're using the word differently from that meaning, you should maybe make that clearer, or reconsider your choice of words. I will have a think as well to see if I can contribute more positively to help make the hard work you are doing even more effective. Best wishes, --Guinnog 13:20, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Spooks

Hi there Kevin. I've been looking through the Spooks edit history to find some victims users that have some knowledge of Spooks. Spooks is currently under peer review], and I would like to get it to GA at least. With little effort I think the article is capable of reaching that level. Even if you have no knowledge of Spooks, some help with copy editing would be much appreciated. The two main sections to be done at the moment are the Critical Response section, which needs some references, and Spooks in popular culture. Any assistance you could provide with creating episode pages would be excellent, though I see it as secondary.Thanks RHB 20:12, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Science fiction novel is not a genre

Kevin, you just added Science fiction novel to Starman Jones as a genre. I've mentioned this to you before (see Farmer in the Sky, above). The genre should be Science fiction novel. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs) 14:28, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

No problem, it's easily fixed when I see it. I mentioned it to you because I'm not sure how many other places you might have added it. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs) 15:07, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Merge of Au revoir, les enfants

Probably a good idea for the merge - good call. Just wondering what happened to the screenplay {{infobox}} for the Gallimard publication... Did that information get lost in the merge? Katalaveno 15:04, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

The merge was not mine - I just tidied a bit on one up some on the talk page. The infobox etc shoudl be in the history of Au revoir, les enfants (screenplay). :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 15:08, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Ah, drat... sorry, I meant to msg another user. Sorry to bother you... Thanks. Katalaveno 15:11, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Rating and reheading for The Antipope

Hi Kevin,

First, thanks for adding the rating to my new article on The Antipope - I think it's the only Robert Rankin novel article that's not been rated stub class - not bad for my first article, and one I only started yesterday :)

Anyway, the reason for this message is mainly about the reheading you did (in the hidden comments) in the article itself. Specifically, you changed "Style" to "Major theme". My intent for this section was to discuss the writing style used within the novel (use of almost archaic English narrative), some of the bizarre features of Rankin novels (giving inanimate objects personalities, and the confusion of a Brentford containing computer games but with pre-decimal coinage in use) and more. So, I'm not convinced that the new heading of "Major theme" is totally appropriate. Any thoughts on an alternative? Maybe such a discussion actually belongs in the (currently not particularly thorough) Robert Rankin article, in which case I could stick to "Major theme" here.

Other than that, I hope to have the plot summary and other additions in the article in the coming days; presumably doing so would (if written well enough) lead to an improved quality rating?
Cheers, Carre 15:36, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Invite to WikiProject World Rally

Stephane Sarrazain, Monte Carlo 2005 Hello, and thank you for your contributions on articles related to rallying. I'd like to invite you to become a part of WikiProject World Rally, a new WikiProject aiming to improve coverage of World Rally Championship and related articles on Wikipedia.

As you can see from the image on the left, we haven't achieved a four-wheel-drive yet. If you would like to help out and participate, please visit the project page for more information. Thanks, Prolog 04:57, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Incomplete infoboxes

Hi, I'm very new to editing on Wikipedia and this weekend I found this list and started working on it I thought I was doing a decent job until I logged on this morning. It doesn't look like you've change what I did just added more or completed it. Is there a list of other things I need to be adding/changing/editing besides the missing information from the boxes? Thanks Jask99 Jask99 16:04, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

{{WPSS-cat}}

Note that use of this template isn't just a matter of "style", but is supposed to indicate a stub type having been proposed at (or else at least adopted by) the stub-sorting project. Alai 02:07, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree, it's obviously not that small, or won't be if someone gets about populating it (or rather, the 40s- template, which actually feeds elsewhere, and might possibly grow to sensible proportions in the medium term. Best thing to do in such cases is to check to see if they've been proposed (whatlinkshere often helps), and if not, add a note about it at WP:WSS/D (which I've done in this case). Alai 12:51, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Help ? article gone

I was just working on Class Reunion (1928 novel) and now it's gone kinda.

I added the original publisher, a small comment about being made before ISBN's and the translators name but that it. I didn't touch the article at all. Now the article is all gone and the infobox is weird. Could you fix it or tell me how to revert it back to the way it was before I tried to add stuff in? ThanxJask99 15:30, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

It just needed the comment section ending (i.e. change a ? to a >) :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 15:35, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Ginny Weasley and Draco Malfoy ratings

Did you give reasons for your rating, or discuss way of improving anywhere? If not, they would be very helpful. The Ginny Weasley peer review was edging toward Featured Article status. Why did you think differently? Please post on the comments page. Thanks, John Reaves 09:59, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. John Reaves 10:13, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello, I noticed you left a note on John Reaves page saying you had left comments re GA review for Draco Malfoy and Ginny Weasley on those pages. But for the life of me, I can't find them. Can you show me where they are? Sandpiper 23:33, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Novels Collaboration of the Month

You supported Waverley (novel), which has been selected as the Novels WikiProject's new Collaboration of the Month. Please help improve this article towards featured article standard. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 11:26, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Whew!?! aka 25000+

Congratulations on the quarter 100,000 edit milestone. feydey 17:30, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: Thanks

Thanks for all your efforts completing various aspects of Novel articles, your help is noticed and much appreciated. Just one detail the normal plural abbreviation for "pages" is "pp", some editors tend to put "p." which I notice you have correctly changed but the convention is "pp". Again thanks for getting stuck in an I hope you are enjoying working here. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 11:58, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I appreciate the thanks, still learning some of the ropes but getting more comfortable editing other peoples work and information. I'll take note on the "pp" and quit changing it to "pg". I was begining to wonder about that it was popping up to much to be a typo. I also wanted to say thanx for fixing that coding mistake the other day. And last but not least a great big CONGRATS on your milestone. It had to have taken forever to do! Jask99 01:35, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:PosthumourMemoirsOfBrasCuas.jpg

has been orphaned and replaced in the article The Posthumous Memoirs of Bras Cubas by this public domain image. Lupo 08:13, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks... Let me do it tommorrow.

sorry... got busy with other things... I still can't believe that the admins let CAT:CSD run up to 300 articles. Anyway, give me till tomorrow. —— Eagle (ask me for help) 09:00, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I did not get to it tonight... I have the tool running now though. If I get a good set of results I will give to you. —— Eagle (ask me for help) 01:27, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Novels newsletter?

Hi, I'm not sure why, but I did not receive this month's newsletter or collaboration of the month. Is there any way I could become re-subscribed to it? Thanks for taking the time to write them every month! Hurrah 01:19, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Request for opinion

Hi,

I saw you were active on the Novels project page and so I wanted to get your opinion on the way the Against the Day page looks. As you know, it's about Thomas Pynchon's latest novel, which is full of abstruse words, abstruse ideas, abstruse historical events and just about everything else, as long as it's abstruse. I started playing around with it and experimenting, throwing in various sections I thought would be useful to a reader perplexed by the novel (actually it appears that all readers are perplexed by all Pynchon novels). This means the article is rather long and has elements that aren't in most (Ok, aren't in any) other Wikipedia articles about novels. I think this is OK, but I like to occasionally bend rules, do things differently, experiment and even invent new ways of helping the reader. Other editors disagree with some of these additions to the page, and there's an intense discussion on the talk page right now. If you have the time and the interest, I'd be interested in what you think, whether you agree or disagree with my proposals, and whether or not you want to put your comments on the discussion page or my talk page. Thanks for reading this far. Noroton 19:23, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

The Novels WikiProject Newsletter: Issue VII - December 2006

The Novels WikiProject Newsletter
Issue VII - December 2006
Project news
  • The project Scope has been slightly expanded to include the shorter narrative prose fiction of Novelettes and Short stories.
  • Due to the diligance of many editors we now have more than 5000 articles tagged as part of the project.
  • Keeping the Novels announcements page up to date and fresh is in need of a volunteer who can keep an eye on it and keep it's content fresh and lively. Please let us know if you are able to help with this. It doesn't involve much, but it needs to be looked at regularly.
Member news
  • The project has currently 178 members, 9 joined & 1 leavers since the last newsletter at the start of November 2006.
Other news
From the Members

Welcome to the seventh issue of the Novels WikiProject's newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do.

We would encourage all members to get more envolved and if you are wondering what with, please ask.

Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk), Initiating Editor
Auto list news
  • Plenty of work has been done on articles included in the "auto lists" in the last couple of months. Particluarly so for the NovelsInCompleteInfobox list, which is constantly being worked on by a number of editors and most of those missing "genre" entries and quite a number with missing "ISBN" entires have been dealt with. A re-run of this list is due soon, courtesy of user Eagle.
Collaboration of the Month
Current debates
  • A new policy proposal has been started and the various points are to be seen at Wikipedia:Speedy deletion criterion for unsourced articles, please take a look at these and comment. This is a vital subject and all editors should consider the implications. These are NOT active yet, but could have wide reaching consequences. Please contribute your views.
  • We have a project structure that allows for the formation of special interest task forces (al la "WP:MILHIST".) This was mentioned last month and a few have indicated interest. This is useful for identifying groups of Novels editors who have a common interest. (i.e. Science fiction novels, Crime Novels, Children's novels, Classic literature, Russian novels etc.) Would there be interest out there in setting one or more of these up. Comments please to the General Forum. Currently I am considering starting with "Crime Novels" and "Russian Novels" to see what can be achieved.
Newsletter challenge

Last months Lawrence Durrell's novel Clea challenge was met by Hurrah (talk • contribs), who was "very" quick off the mark. As with the previous months it is now a very small stub in need of "loving care".

  • The first person to start the article is mentioned in the next newsletter. This month's article is paranoid fiction.

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This is an automated delivery by grafikbot 00:24, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Ideas for the January newsletter

  1. I noticed that WP:TROP is calling their Newsletter - The Hurricane Herald; so maybe a friendly competition/debate or similar in the next newsletter or on the project page to name he novels newsletter? Or if You have a good one already...
  2. The newsletter is getting big, so maybe use the other column (if the next newsletter also balloons). Maybe move Collaboration of the Month and Challenge to the right column?

Cheers, feydey 03:07, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

scope of the Novels project

Hi Kevin, just wanted to ask you about the scope of the Novels project. Are articles about genres (like paranoid fiction) also in scope? I do not believe they currently are in scope, but the newsletter did ask for that article to be created. Anyway, lots of confusion here. Errabee 03:10, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

I had just tought it went without saying that articles about novels would be in scope (i.e. the field as well as examples. So if you disagree or need to enhance the scope statement please say or just alter it. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 08:44, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your answer. It's fine by me, although I wonder why the most important article in this category (which would be novel) is not labeled as in scope yet. I'll fix that immediately. Errabee 09:11, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
I'll think about a rewording; I'll let you know in a day or two. Errabee 09:27, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
I don't think much work needs to be done. The first sentence of the Scope section can be clarified by adding and literary genres associated with fictional narrative to the end. An extry entry is needed in the Hierarchy Definition about the literary genres. I think that should cover it all. Errabee 12:16, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
I've changed it. Please review. Errabee 17:36, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

References versus footnotes

Please don't change the "References" heading to "Footnotes", as you did at The Immaculate Conception. This is largely a matter of personal preference; it is not an "error" that needs correcting. As the initial editor of the article, I prefer to use "References" for citations and "Footnotes" for additional explanatory text; I make a distinction where others may not. That doesn't make any of us wrong or in need of correction. Thanks.—Chidom talk  19:22, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

wikifying Facts of Life

Hi. You added a 'please wikify' tag to the above. I'm not really clear what you think needs doing: the article's a stub, sure, but it's in WP format so far as I can see. Could you clarify? Cheers, Sam Clark 20:03, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

About references/footnotes in Something Wicked This Way Comes

I noticed that you assessed the Something Wicked This Way Comes and also revised some parts of it. Most of these changes are welcome, and I thank you, but I do have one question: is there a difference between references and footnotes? I thought that references were mainly to list sources in an article, and footnotes for just notes (not sources); am I mistaken? I reread Wikipedia:Citing sources, but I am still not sure what exactly is the difference between references and footnotes. Can you please clear this up for me? Breed Zona 23:29, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

That explanation did clear things up for me; thanks a lot for that. I wonder if Internet sources go under References or Footnotes, though? I'm assuming References. Breed Zona 00:38, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey, i was wondering if there is any chance that i can keep a novel that i'm editing from being seen by the public until im finished. So if you could just message me on my discussion page. Thanks.

voshvoshka

Yes it helps, thanks for the tips.

voshvoshka

Clean up This Side of Paradise

You put a clean-up tag on This Side of Paradise and did something else, ignoring vandalism. I'm not sure what you did, and don't have time to re-add clean-up tag, and I incorrectly tagged it RV to your last version, when it was to your 3rd to last version. Sorry for the hassle, but I'm not sure what the AWB or whatever is, so you may need to do it again. KP Botany 15:46, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

re: Momo (novel) assessment

Thanks, I've started a significance/criticism section but I think your assessment of start-class/mid-importance is about right. 67.117.130.181 05:36, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Night

Kevin, I moved Night (book) back to that title from Night (novel). The problem with the "novel" title is that part of the debate about the book is whether it's a novel or non-fiction, which is why it's called Night (book), and also why the first sentence calls it a "work" to get round having to decide one way or the other. As it's a featured article, we need to be especially careful. Let me know if you're okay with that. Cheers, SlimVirgin (talk) 07:02, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

"First edition preferred"

Hi. I was amused to see this added to the infobox on The Small Rain, published in 1945. Having collected L'Engle novels for over 30 years, I've still never even SEEN the original cover of this book - and if I did, I'd have to think long and hard before spending several hundred dollars to buy it and scan it for Wikipedia. Rest assured that I will always post first edition covers if I have them, but it's not always possible. For example, my hardback of The Young Unicorns is an ex-library rebinding. I've searched online for the cover of the first edition, and nobody has one posted. All I see is lots and lots of copies of the current paperback cover art. No big deal at this end - I know you're just adding standardised info on what we want to post whenever possible. Still, I'll be very surprised if we ever get 100% compliance on L'Engle books of the 1940s to 1960s. Regards, and keep up the good work! Karen | Talk | contribs 18:22, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

E-sword

I have re-opened the deletion review. Please have a look at it [3] and comment Refdoc 18:35, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

I added your comment to the second DRV's archive. The new DRV was speedily closed because the deletion had been endorsed in another DRV the day before. There is no agenda for anything, and the article is unsalted, so the article creator can just recreate the article with the sources he found. --Coredesat 12:35, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Paranoid fiction

Hi again. I know you classified the paranoid fiction article as a "stub," but I've just expanded the article beyond stub length with the help of two Internet sources listed at the bottom of the article. Could you please re-assess the article if you have the time? Much thanks, Breed Zona 03:56, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Martian Chronicles

Hi. What's your call regarding the categorizing of The Martian Chronicles? As the article says, it falls in the crack between being a collection of short stories and being a full novel. In fact it's categorized as a novel. Should I add it to the Short story task force? 23skidoo 03:09, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Dekada '70

Hi! I wrote the article, and had a hard time with the details for the infobox. I'm curious how you got the publisher? Please let me know source. Thanks. --Pinay06|Talk|Email 05:31, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey, this is really great! Thank you!!!--Pinay06 (Talk*Email) 09:00, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Book cover

This is to let you know that I've orphaned the fair use image Image:Poe TheNarrativeOfArthurGordonPymOfNantucket.jpg, and replaced it with Image:Poe TheNarrativeOfArthurGordonPymOfNantucket title.jpg, an image in the public domain. For more information, see the book cover replacement project. Thanks. Chick Bowen 00:55, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

A Certain Woman

Hello Kevin. Recently, you added back an invalid ISBN to this article, that had been removed as part of normal ISBN maintenance efforts. This is one of the famous published-invalid ISBNs listed at [4]. Although WP has no firm standard on what to do with published-invalid ISBNs, it seems reasonable to give our readers another standard book number, which *does* work and is valid. That is what the OCLC number was trying to do. If you click on the OCLC reference, it opens up a library catalog entry for the book. However you deleted this as part of your cleanup efforts. Also, the bad ISBN will keep on getting a warning template from SmackBot, each time it runs. Given these disadvantages, would you be willing to consider restoring the way we had it previously? EdJohnston 04:37, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Kevin. I replied to your message on my talk page. EdJohnston 13:41, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Sorting out the universe

Hi Kevin, and thanks for your comments. As I noted to one user, better whip this into shape now before we get thousands more articles in those categories. And you're right about "once a cataloguer" - as you can tell, I gravitate toward sorting stubs and categorizing - it makes up for my Real Life which is not organized at all. Very satisfying! Her Pegship (tis herself) 14:29, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Unspecified source for Image:DavidRohl promo.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:DavidRohl promo.jpg. I notice the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you have not created this file yourself, then there needs to be a justification explaining why we have the right to use it on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you did not create the file yourself, then you need to specify where it was found, i.e., in most cases link to the website where it was taken from, and the terms of use for content from that page.

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