Talk:Kevin Spacey
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Contents |
[edit] Old Vic
He's been recently named something to do with the Old Vic. Is it atistic director? -- Zoe
Thanks for the tip. After a quick search of recent news stories, I found enough to write a paragraph about his appointment as artistic director. -- Islandboy99
[edit] Austin Powers in Goldmember
His filmography has him listed as playing Dr. Evil in the second Austin Powers movie, who, of course, was played by Mike Myers. I thought perhaps he was a stand-in for the scenes where it was neccessary to film Dr. Evil and Austin Powers in the same frame. Could someone look into this, confirm it, and either strike it from the filmography or add clarification? --Frag 08:25, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- Goldmember was the third film. Spacey played Dr. Evil in the first 3 minutes of that film. Mad Jack 08:29, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
And the end part?
[edit] Sexuality
The article asserted he was a homosexual despite his public claims to the opposite. I changed the language to reflect that. If someone has "proof" that is openly gay, then go ahead and change it back. --Feitclub 20:18, Nov 7, 2004 (UTC)
- The article still asserts that he is a homosexual. The change in language only acknowledged the fact that in public Mr. Spacey claims to be heterosexual while in truth being homosexual while around friends and coworkers. If that is true then the article needs to be changed to say that there is suspicion to his being gay, but not proof. It's all in where you put your allegedly. Wjw 06:45, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)
If something like this cannot be proved, it is libellous. This is true regardless of whether we add "allegedly" or "some people say" or even "a few people have said, but I don't believe them myself, but". jguk 22:57, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)
-
- Not in 2006. It is no longer libelous to state that someone is gay or lesbian. It may have some effects on their career, but it is not libelous in the year 2006. I don't know whether Spacey is gay, straight, or bisexual, or asexual, but if people continue to suggest that saying (it is no longer, "accusing") someone is gay is libelous, it will merely delay ever more the time when it is clear to all that it is no longer libelous. It is like revealing that Tom Cruise wears elevator heels in his shoes to conceal that he is only 5' 7" tall. He may not want his shortness to be revealed to his many female fans, he may feel such revelations to be embarassing, but it is not libelous. 66.108.4.183 09:18, 13 September 2006 (UTC) Allen Roth
- It's true that alleging that someone is gay isn't libelous as such. But given that Spacey - following the article's publication - openly stated that he's not gay, what is subsequently being alleged is that he's deliberately lying about his sexuality - and that is arguably defamatory. Besides which, as others have stated, baseless speculation doesn't belong in WP. Tobelia 20:47, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
- I'd like to know what basis either of you have for saying that falsely claiming that someone is gay is no longer libelous. Any demonstrably malicious and harmful (and false) accusation is libelous or slanderous. If an accusation is true, that's another story. Wahkeenah 21:12, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
- It's true that alleging that someone is gay isn't libelous as such. But given that Spacey - following the article's publication - openly stated that he's not gay, what is subsequently being alleged is that he's deliberately lying about his sexuality - and that is arguably defamatory. Besides which, as others have stated, baseless speculation doesn't belong in WP. Tobelia 20:47, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
- Not in 2006. It is no longer libelous to state that someone is gay or lesbian. It may have some effects on their career, but it is not libelous in the year 2006. I don't know whether Spacey is gay, straight, or bisexual, or asexual, but if people continue to suggest that saying (it is no longer, "accusing") someone is gay is libelous, it will merely delay ever more the time when it is clear to all that it is no longer libelous. It is like revealing that Tom Cruise wears elevator heels in his shoes to conceal that he is only 5' 7" tall. He may not want his shortness to be revealed to his many female fans, he may feel such revelations to be embarassing, but it is not libelous. 66.108.4.183 09:18, 13 September 2006 (UTC) Allen Roth
I am doing a survey of Wiki pages for actors, musicians, and other celebrities who are subject to rumors about their sexual orientation, and I am surprised to see that for Spacey, the matter has been removed completely. That there are rumors and speculation about his sexual orientation is completely NPOV. Such rumors are included for Tom Cruise, Clay Aiken, and others. Furthermore, a federal (US District Boston, MA) court ruled in 2004 that “In 2004, a statement implying that an individual is a homosexual is hardly capable of a defamatory meaning” and therefore, stating that someone may be gay is not grounds for libel. If there is going to be biopic statement that "rumors about sexuality exist for X" applied to any celebrity, it needs to be consistently applied throughout Wiki. WebTraveler 23:12, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
- Could you provide a source for any of these rumors? WP is an encyclopedia, not a gossip rag. Try The National Enquirer for that. Bbatsell 03:43, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] NPOV
I think this should be removed as too general and certainly POV: is arguably one of the greatest American actors of his generation. If that claim can be associated with a specific person, like a critic, writer, or film professional, that would be great. Otherwise, it should be removed as POV. Also the awards should be moved to an awards section. And his birthplace information (South Orange, New Jersey) should be moved to an Early life section. It's best if we NPOV the introduction so it reads as follows:
What do you folks think? --Viriditas | Talk 01:49, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Be bold :) jguk 22:58, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Kevin Spacey went to Chatsworth High School with Val Kilmer and my aunt. :) -anon
- And with Mare Winningham. Preaky 04:17, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Honda commercial
I just saw some Honda commercial with Kevin Spacey as the narrator. Is he doing alright? --MightyGiant 01:24, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
- He's in trouble for his alleged mismanagement of the Old Vic.
[edit] Weasel words
No one seems to have added anything to discussion about it, so I am removing it until they do. I'm guessing the tag was added because the article says "his father was alleged to be a member of the American Nazi party". Well, maybe we need to add "alleged by Fox News to have been". Otherwise, the section is NPOV. Mad Jack 20:24, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Full name
Some sources say his full name is "Kevin Matthew Fowler", and some say "Kevin Spacey Fowler". Does anyone know for sure which is which? Mad Jack 23:12, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- And the name middle name was "Spacey". So we had it wrong and now we have it right.[1] Mad Jack 07:22, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Personal life
Can anyone either source this to a reliable source or comment on its relevance to the article? " A skilled mimic, Spacey is known for impressions, including Johnny Carson, Walter Matthau, Jack Lemmon, Christopher Walken, Katharine Hepburn, William Hurt, Anthony Hopkins and Dr. Evil." Mad Jack 23:12, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
He also does great impressions of Jimmy Stewart and Cary Grant (see Letterman 6/26/06).
- I saw one on Conan O'Brien, but this all still strikes me as unencyclopedic... You could list dozens of names. In summation, we should mention his "talent", though maybe not give any examples. Is there any good source that mentions his "talent" that we can quote? Mad Jack 04:55, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
i guess he learned it autodidactic and to the fun. i remember he used it on his early carrer in a comedy club. but in WWW i don't found anyone about it. but what i can show you is: "Inside the Actors Studio" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0611292/ http://www.bravotv.com/Inside_the_Actors_Studio/videos/Kevin_Spacey.shtml http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8JmN_-oudY&search=bluedog12 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_the_Actors_Studio , Verbal99
He did a fabulous impression of Bill CLinton during a Parkinson appearance tp promote his Bobby Darrin bopic too.
What relevance are the gay rumours? That seems a little out of place and too tabloidy to me. Codeviolation 04:04, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Links/footnotes
There is a link to a Val Kilmer website/article given as a reference (#6) to the section on Spacey's sexuality, but I can't find any mention of Spacey at that site? Spamming? Birgitsnet 11:00, 03 July 2006 (GMT)
- Looks like a mistake - thanks Mad Jack 16:41, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] GA Result
There are 7 things that must pass before an article reaches GA status. I have reviewed it and the result is as follows:
- Well-written: Pass
- Factually accurate: Pass
- Broad: Pass
- Neutrally written: Pass
- Stable: Pass
- Well-referenced: Pass
- Images: Pass
Well done, the GA has passed successfully —Minun Spiderman 19:40, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Categories: Wikipedia good articles | GA-Class Good articles | Wikipedia CD Selection-GAs | Old requests for peer review | Wikipedia good articles on actors, models and celebrities | Wikipedia CD Selection - People | Biography articles of living people | Arts and entertainment work group articles | GA-Class biography (arts and entertainment) articles | Unknown-priority biography (arts and entertainment) articles | GA-Class biography articles