Talk:Kenji Siratori

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Contents 1 NPOV 2 Kenji Siratori at ja.wikipedia.org 3 Jacked into one too many Crackpipes Matrices 4 Romanization

[edit] NPOV

Blatantly POV description of this author -- you may like him, but the article must remain neutral about his prowess; you can't make him sound like he's the best author since Shakespeare which this article does now. I don't know enough about him to correct it. Kit 09:26, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Additionally, much of this text is an apparent copyright violation. Kit 09:32, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, Kit, for catching this. I have put together a quick stub at Kenji Siratori/Temp which should avoid both NPOV and copyright issues. The bookmunch.co.uk interview under "External links" is simply hilarious. It ends, "Figuring that the impenetrability of Blood Electric reflects the impenetrability (or lunacy—we can't decide) of the man, Stoop decided to call it a day at this point. Blood Electric is published by Creation Books. Read it if you dare."

Best, Anville 15:02, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Since the original is down, you can find a copy at this archive.org mirror which clearly shows that the version in place before I added the copyvio tag is clearly just that, a copyright violation. Thanks Anville for starting a new, NPOV stub for this author. He seems notable enough to merit an entry, but we should be careful as some anonymous editors seem very devoted to his promotion -- see User talk:Todfox#Kenji Siratori for info on this, but please watch for Siratori being added inappropriately to other articles. Kit 10:45, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Reading the works list on an old version, I also note that five books were published through iUniverse, a vanity publisher. Anville 12:48, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kenji Siratori at ja.wikipedia.org

I removed the transwiki link to ja:Kenji Siratori, since when I loaded that page, it told me (in Babelfish's words), "Presently there is no item of this name in ウィキペディア." It suggested that I "compiling this page, you write item newly", although at the end of our conversation, it also left a warning:

This item of the time before has been drawn up if is, this itemis already deleted.Immediately, perhapsthe reason which is deleted to policy of deletion is stated.

Or, quoted more literally,

以前この項目を作成したことがあるならば、この項目は既に削除されています。即時削除の方針に削除された理由が記載されているかもしれません。

I absolutely love this. Check out the Wikipedia policy "of immediately deletion": [1],

As for writing incorrectly the itemname being the wreckage of movement even when, that whoever seeing when knowing that it is error clearly, other than, it is not the immediately deletion object.After moving to correctinscription, clearly writing the fact that it is error inscription,please submits tothe request for deletion of リダイレクト(sticking the deletion templet is not necessary). Well in case of the certain mistake and declared shaking while it is リダイレクト there are times when it becomes continuance.

The case which is enumerated below is applied only in regard to the article which does not have beneficial past record. Immediately when the past edition which does not correspond to the policy of deletion is one, it does not become the object of immediately deletion.

Best, Anville 15:24, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jacked into one too many Crackpipes Matrices

From the 3AM interview:

So my writing was born with the horizon of techno — I'm advocating nerve physics here — I process violence and sex as the reality of data — I take a view of my conceptual web with nerve experiences. The writing is linked to how I game this expanded hardweb for me — such a method that touches to my brain more cruelly.

"...I process violence and sex as ... the reality of data"?? Ooh, ooh, more reality of data for me! More reality of data all around!

I despair of ever being able to turn this into an encyclopædia article. Please, is someone out there able to distinguish this from sense-free random noise? Anville 19:14, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

I am at a loss as to how to talk in an NPOV fashion about the sort of prose this fellow writes. My recommendation might be to include a couple quotes from his interviews, like "Kenji Siratori claims his 'writing was born with the horizon of techno.' In writing he says he takes 'A view of my conceptual web with nerve experiences.' In a similar fashion, his writing uses difficult, often nonsensical appearing word choices, claiming inspiration from William S. Burroughs cut-up style." The article probably will never be a long one without POV creeping in.

How does this guy rate on the notability critera again? :)Kit O'Connell (Todfox: user / talk / contribs) 19:58, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

He's fairly notable insofar as a fringe/underground author can be. Deleuze 12:04, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Romanization

Just curious about the romanization of this author's name, which isn't correct by the system we use. What's the policy on this? After all, Inagaki Taruho likes to spell his name Inagaqui Taruphuo in English, but that's not how we spell it in the article about him. Exploding Boy 21:35, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

AFAIK his books have come out with this byline. Wouldn't that make it the name people search for, and therefore should be the name of the article? However, I have not editted other articles on Japanese people so I don't know the policy. Kit O'Connell (Todfox: user / talk / contribs) 22:11, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Just to add to this discussion, he emailed me a few months ago to work on a music collaboration with me, and his sig read "kenji siratori". Also, his web domain name is kenjisiratori.com, so I think he readily accepts this spelling. - Ugliness Man 14:24, 7 August 2006 (UTC)