Talk:Kemet
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look here this is the real place for the definition for kemet. please no redirection and all that crap and if you do i will talk to the administrator.
- I don’t mind you talking to an administrator, why would I?
- This article deals with the very same issue as Controversy over racial characteristics of Ancient Egyptians, it lists no sources and it tried to solve the issues using only the term Kemet. I’m not disputing your information, infact I have written not a single word on the racial characteristics of Ancient Egyptians and do not intent to, here on wiki.
- The issue of the racial characteristics of Ancient Egyptians is found all over different egyptian articles here on wiki. No need to start a separate article, that not only can, but will, in time, turn into the very same dicussion that you can find 100-fold already going on, on Controversy over racial characteristics of Ancient Egyptians. If you got something to add to kemet or the entire discussion in gerneral why not add it to the other article? Twthmoses 06:15, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
See WP:3RR --Stlemur 10:40, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
- Hmm or rather ????. What is there to be seen in WP:3RR about Kemet? (Yes I know what 3RR is). And slapping a merge tag on is even more strange, considering that all the info here is already in the other article, so what is there to merge? Would it not be more helpful to actually leave a comment on the issue, seeing that how else can this dispute, as you call it, else be resolved? Twthmoses 12:28, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
Reverting back and forth is not the best way to solve an edit dispute. The question, basically, is whether to keep Kemet as a separate article, or to merge it into Controversy over racial characteristics of Ancient Egyptians; as the matter stands, the two do seem to contain the same information.
I think Kemet should remain separate because the word itself has meaning just as the ancient Egyptian name for themselves, independent of the larger article. Certainly nothing prevents a mention of and link to the larger article and controversy regarding the appropriate translation of the word.
Furthermore, in general, turning a whole page into a redirect is often seen as equivalent to blanking; if you think this article shouldn't exist at all, the way to go about that is to propose a deletion. --Stlemur 13:30, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
- Anybody just slightly familiar with the whole issue knows that a provable and unbiased definition of Kemet is unable to stand on its own. For any book you can find you can find ten others giving another explanation, and why they think it is so. Any side trying to explain the meaning of Kemet will invoke all other issues already listed in Controversy over racial characteristics of Ancient Egyptians as evidence or support. This is why it is hopeless to make an article on Kemet alone, as it will (not just can, but will) turn into another article like Controversy over racial characteristics of Ancient Egyptians because that article is the very issue that prevents Kemet of getting a unanimously agreed explanation. As for page blanking. It is very clear that I’m not page blanking, and there is not such thing as “general” in that regard anyway. It is a very obvious redirect to an article that covers the issue much deeper. And just to get it out of the way, if any such thoughts crossed your mind; I actually agree with the definition that is given in the article. Twthmoses 17:44, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Off topic
I removed this due to lack of sources:
"However, the fact that in this word the determinative of place is omitted allows the defenders of the Afrocentrist cause to interpret this word as “the black inhabitants.”- Quote from above.
I reworded the passage above on 3/8/07, as it had reappeared. Using words like "cause" to describe the Africentric perspective is biased and it does not contribute to thoughtful debate. --Dr.RJW 19:55, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
This is incorrect. The word that ones will tell you is Kemet, which does reffer to its rich hummus soil, but it also refers to the rich melinated peoples of Kemet which is expressed in the word Kemetnu, which means "land of the black people."
To prove that the Egyptians were black skinned one should consult the works of Herodotus:
"The Egyptians and Nubians have THICK LIPS, BROAD NOSES, WOOLY HAIR AND BURNT SKIN...And the Indian tribes I have mentioned, their skins are all of the same colour, much like the Ethiopians... their country is a long way from Persia towards the south..."- Herodotus
Also Aristotle:
"The Ethiopians and Egyptians are very black."- Aristotle
This is not the place for debate. It is about the word "Kemet", not what color the Egyptians were. There are no Egyptian texts referring to Egyptians as kmt (etc.), save as mentioned in the article already. Whatever Herodotus and Aristotle may have said (and please cite properly), they were not discussing the word "Kemet", the subject of this article. I am not sure what "melinated peoples" are anyhow. 62.235.151.100 11:58, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] The Metu Neter Cross Roads Symbol Means Nation
Hetep and Respect Good Spirit, The Metu Neter cross roads symbol means village, town, city, state or Nation depending on its context. In this context it means nation.
Cultural terrorists have spread this "black land" misinformation to misrepresent Kemet (ancient Egypt) and its people. The symbols for land are long and straight and look completely different from the round cross roads. There is no way to confuse these symbols if you can read Metu Neter.
See appendix of "The What Makes You Black, Blook" for details including all related Metu Neter pictographs.
This Article should be updated accordingly. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Aunk (talk • contribs) 18:48, 8 December 2006 (UTC).
