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Contents 1 Mention of Kegel muscles 2 Revision suggested 3 I've Improved the Article 4 Errors? 5 Guide to exercise requested 6 Bias? 7 Peter North?

[edit] Mention of Kegel muscles

430 Google hits for "Kegel muscles": which of course does not make it right. Pubococcygeus muscles is correct, but we should mention the other usage, and point out that it is non-standard.-- Karada 00:32, 23 Dec 2003 (UTC)

How about saying what and where these muscles are, instead of using big words that Wikipedia doesn't even have? Also, the alleged sexual benefits should be mentioned and not left to the external links. --Zero 06:29, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Revision suggested

The wording of this article seems a bit too much like a promotional brochure ("Luckily, when these muscles get weak, you can help make them strong again."). I think it should be reworded along the lines of "the exercise is believed to..." to remove the whisper of bias. -Asriel86

No, not really. It's highly documented that exercising a muscle strengthens it. Of course, it won't be much since you can't add resistance, but it is an endurance exercise. Tyciol 05:30, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I've Improved the Article

I think I've substantially increased the quality of the article, so I removed the cleanup tag. It could probably be filled out a little more, though--perhaps the paragraph on men and Kegel exercises especially. --The Famous Movie Director 13:37, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Errors?

1) In the article Pubococcygeus muscle it is stated as a fact, that "Kegel exercises [...] contribute to premature ejaculation. Some doctors advise men against doing Kegel exercises for this reason.". If this is correct, this article should carry the same information. -Saperea

I've actually never heard of this, all I hear is of it helping to prevent ejaculation due to control. Since the muscles stop urination, you'd assume they stop ejaculation. Tyciol 05:30, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

The Wikipedia article for 'premature ejaculation' lists Kegel Exercises as a means of treating said affliction...I'd really like to know which it is! *cough*

2) Under the last heading in the article it says, that "practicing Kegel exercises during urination is not recommended, as this could lead to a urinary tract infection [citation needed]." Citation needed indeed - this seems very unlikely, as infection is caused by bacteria, which certainly isn't produced by Kegel exercises nor are they (as far as I can see)liable to be moved from other parts of the body to the urinary tract by Kegel exercises. -Saperea

I agree it is a stupid claim, I'll fact-cite it if it's still there. Tyciol 05:30, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

3) You could perhaps cause some form of involuntary urine retention that could increase chances of infecion. Still, better to find a source on that. --Ben Taylor 21:57, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Guide to exercise requested

A sentence or two about how to perform Kegel exercizes would be nice. -71.211.208.132

There are a lot of guides out there. It's actually simple, you stop the flow of urination, and mimic that for long periods of increasing intensity. Tyciol 05:30, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bias?

Although Dr. Arnold Kegel has contemporized and popularized this practice, it is by no means new. The Taoists of ancient China developed a number of different sexual practices to strengthen and tone these same muscles for health, longevity, sexual gratification, and spiritual development. Directly akin to the Kegel exercise is the Taoist practice of the Deer Exercise. However all this is not to be taken seriously. [Emphasis mine]

Is that statement appropriate for an encyclopaedic article? If it's not to be taken "seriously", why not? Certainly the Taoists took it seriously... --Sapphire Wyvern 00:54, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Peter North?

Seems like a jokester put a link to Peter North on the page. I think it should be deleted, but I'm not sure about the policies concerning editing pages, so I'll just leave it for someone else to correct. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.192.127.216 (talk) 23:21, 6 March 2007 (UTC).