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Are there any references to show whether the station checked with a doctor to see if, say, there could possible be any health hazards from drinking mass quantities of water? Like death?Edison 20:58, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Why doesn't the page include the names of the DJs, or the names of the 10 people fired? ScottSwan 04:12, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Contents 1 who decides what is notable and what is not? 2 Quantity of Water Consumed 3 "Hold Your Wee for a Wii" split needed 4 KDND has fired 10 employees 5 Lead 6 Statement 7 article exists

[edit] who decides what is notable and what is not?

and why is it even an issue, in a computer based medium where storage is so cheap?

seriuosly, wikipedia heading down an awful, awful road, some kind of weird USA today thing.

the opposite of scholarship, basically.

Your complaint is actually a common one, unfortunately Wikipedia "is not an indiscriminate collection of information." A couple links will help answer your questions: WP:N and WP:5P. At first you may find the rules/guidelines constricting, but it does benefit quality of the content by filtering out the content with questionable merit. Tendancer 00:39, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

sorry, but discrimination is not exactly what is going on, its more like censorship. seriously. you didnt even answer my question. i love how as time goes on, information disappears from the article, like the names of the DJs, links to their myspace pages, and transcripts of the relevant show. woohoo, not only are you 'filtering out content of questionable merit', you are filtering out any content that is actually controversial and/or interesting, so you get a watery, cliffs notes version of what happened instead of anything worthwhile. even paper encyclopedias have reprints of primary sources, for example pages that are basically photographs of the declaration of independence. wikipedia is just getting more and more dumbed down, simplistic, and lacking in interesting details as time goes on —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 198.207.222.130 (talk) 22:17, 25 February 2007 (UTC).

Agree with above. Removing the names of the DJs, their myspace pages, and transcripts is not a neutral act, it is helping the radio station and harming Mr. Strange's position. Wiki should be neutral and list the facts, not cover the facts in favor of one party over the other.72.193.65.10 20:17, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Quantity of Water Consumed

Why does someone keep removing references to how much water was consumed by Strange? The latest reports say she may have drunk up to two gallons. I think people would be interested in knowing this, not to mention the quantity the winner drank. Mark 10:18, 17 January 2007 (PST)

[edit] "Hold Your Wee for a Wii" split needed

I added a tag calling for "Hold Your Wee for a Wii" to get its own article; the reason being is that the event is notable enough and the section sizable enough to get its own article. After the split, the main KDND article should have a link to that article, plus perhaps a brief description of the event. -- azumanga 01:33, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Just a reminder not to remove the tags without giving a legitimate reason -- they are there for a reason. -- azumanga 15:20, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't think it should be split. Without the contest, the article wouldn't be notable and would just be a stub. The section does need to be trimmed though (the transcript isn't needed). TJ Spyke 03:41, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

I think it should be slipt into two articles. On the KDND main article, you can just leave a brief description of what happened and add for more information just add the article link. I only find this article interesting because I live in the Sacramento region and they took off one of the coolest morning radio shows. 71.129.205.205 04:11, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

I think it should be split. It's been all over the news, specifically in Bemidji, Minnesota and Boston, Massachusetts. - A Link to the Past (talk) 05:54, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Oppose split; article on the incident already exists at Jennifer Strange. What's needed here is a short summary that links there. --MCB 22:17, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

If that's the case, we could move the meat of the material to there, then have a link with a brief descriptiom here. -- azumanga 22:38, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree with moving the content back to Jennifer Strange with some linked sentence or two on KDND . MPS 21:07, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Oppose split; and the article on Jennifer Strange should be renamed appropriate for the incident that happened. AEMoreira042281 02:51, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Oppose split -- all the content you are talking about is already at Jennifer Strange. I might support a rename of the Jennifer Strange article, but not sure if I like Hold Your Wee for a Wii versus other less patently commercial names. rename discussion should occur at talk:Jennifer Strange. MPS 21:06, 24 January 2007 (UTC) .

Neutral - the split is necessary, but it's already more or less done with Jennifer Strange. Just shrink the Jennifer Strange-related sections of this article and add onto her article. - A Link to the Past (talk) 22:24, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Oppose split. It's my opinion that Jennifer Strange is a non-notable person and should not have a Wikipedia article: an unusual manner of death does not confer notability. I also think the "Hold Your Wee for a Wii" competition is only borderline notable; it did garner a lot of press, but it was only one of an unending string of similar gimmicky radio contests. The controversy over her death most appropriately attaches here, to the radio station that held the contest, which is clearly notable. Both "Jennifer Strange" and "Hold your Wee for a Wii" should redirect here. --Hyperbole 23:09, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

An unusual manner of death, a controversial event, civil case, potential criminal charges, an entire radio station may be shut down, and made the news all over the nation. - A Link to the Past (talk) 00:09, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but the underlying cause was the radio station. Controversial newsmaking events don't necessarily get their own article. We don't have articles like Denise Richards's Divorce from Charlie Sheen - that event attaches to the pre-existing notable figures (Denise Richards and Charlie Sheen). Similarly, this event should attach to the pre-existing notable figure - KDND. --Hyperbole 04:18, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Neutral - It's my opinion that this could go either way. You can leave the section associated with KDND as both the station and the event will be forever linked (and the event is not assocated with any other radio station, inside or outside Sacramento). On the other hand, it could be its own article, as the term "Hold Your Wee for a Wii" will forever be associated with a radio contest that ended in tragedy--and as such will likely give radio station managers pause the next time they think an on-air contest may prove harmful to participants. (If it will be separated, classify it under "Hold Your Wee for a Wii" for those reasons, not under just "Jennifer Strange.") (Darrel M 03:16, 27 January 2007 (UTC))

[edit] KDND has fired 10 employees

On Jan. 17, 2007 CNN reported that KDND fired 10 staff members regarding the Jennifer Strange incident. Casey789208.53.88.128 01:54, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lead

Lead needs to be expanded with updated information. - A Link to the Past (talk) 02:29, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Statement

Lukas, Maney and Trish, hosts of "The Morning Rave," released a statement. Spiddy 14:45, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Link? - A Link to the Past (talk) 17:08, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

No, I don't think he has anything to do with it. 208.38.59.90 03:16, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] article exists

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