Talk:KC-10 Extender

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Contents 1 KC-135 2 Specifications 3 Fuel capacity 4 Inventory Numbers 5 Trivia

[edit] KC-135

The article states that there were doubts about the 700+ strong force of KC-135s. Surely the figure is closer to 170 aircraft (1972)? James Fitzy 17:37, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

No, the statement is correct. In the 1970's, the KC-135 fleet was 700+ strong. Even with the retirement and subsequent destruction of many A models, the current KC-135 E & R fleet is still 490 claimed inventory by the USAF.

[edit] Specifications

What's the source for these? A lot of the values match the USAF fact sheet page or are close. But the Ceiling does not. -Fnlayson 23:04, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

I'd say that one qualifies as reliable. I'll update the specs to reflect that source.--chris.lawson 23:33, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fuel capacity

There's this statement Though the 59 Extenders currently in service are greatly outnumbered by the older KC-135 Stratotanker, the KC-10 has a significantly larger fuel capacity. at the top. Is this supposed to say the 59 KC-10s carry more fuel the KC-135 fleet? If so, the wording needs tweaking. Thanks. -Fnlayson 19:14, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

I read it as 'one KC-10 can carry more fuel than one KC-135'. Probably still needs clarifying, though. --Scott Wilson 01:36, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Maybe. That should be seperate sentences if that's the case. -Fnlayson 04:15, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I moved it and reworded that statement. If someone wants to compare the fuel capacity of the KC-10 fleet to the KC-135 fleet, they can reword that or add to it. -Fnlayson 04:32, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

I noticed that this infomation was not listed anywhere in the article, so I thought it should be provided; Maximum KC-10A Fuel Load: 356,000 pounds -- However, due to the basic weight of the aircraft being on average 250,000 lbs, and the Max T/O weight being 590,000 pounds, the Maximum fuel load does not exceed 340,000 lbs. There is NO waiver authority to exceed these limitations.

• The Max Fuel Load been added to the specifications section. -Fnlayson 03:23, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Inventory Numbers

The Air Force has 59 KC-10's in inventory, but only 58 are in flying condition. The first aircraft scheduled for GATM modification in 2004 was partially modified, but the GATM upgrade program was canceled, and the aircraft was never returned to it's previous configuration. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 131.55.121.8 (talk) 02:48, 5 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Trivia

Why was the trivia section removed? And are actual KC-10 Aircrews not allowed to add aircraft trivia?

I removed the trivia section because most of the entries had no sources cited. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and as such only verifiable sources may be used to add information. First-hand knowledge of aircrew cannot be verifed, and as such counts as original research. However, such users have the ability to spot erros in the text, and can point those out for correction to the other editors, if they do not have verifiable sources to quote from. If there are any more questions on this matter or something else, feel free to ask.

Please see Wikipedia:WikiProject Aircraft/page content#Popular culture, Wikipedia:Avoid trivia sections in articles, and Wikipedia:No original research for guidleins on Trivia sections, and how adding to them may constitutute "original research". - BillCJ 23:39, 5 January 2007 (UTC)