User talk:Kbh3rd

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Contents 1 Tawkerbot2 2 thanks! 3 prod removal on Guild wars review 4 My RfA 5 Reversion of JP2 page (144.126.233.xxx) 6 My RfA 7 My RfA 8 Rush Limbaugh 9 Vandalism help 10 Message from you... 11 feedback on your vandal warning script 12 Vandalism 13 Vandal warning toolbox 14 Changes in vandal toolbox 15 Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot 16 RE:Changes to vandal warning toolbox 17 A barnstar for you! 18 New Fleet 19 Excuse me 20 Vandal Warning Tools 21 Saints Wikiproject 22 The Chicken Or The Egg 23 Lauren Bush 24 Kim Jong Il block 25 hi 26 SLUH changes 27 Dave Ulliott 28 Thanks 29 Vandalism warnings 30 disruptive edit? 31 STL photo 32 on codify 33 RE: Useless Ramblings 34 Hissy fit 35 Blatant Vandalism 36 Thanks 37 Thank you 38 Not Spam 39 Re: Mississippi River pollution 40 Please Help 41 confused 42 Your edits on Ricky Ullman 43 How to Write Good 44 Removed Remarks from Talk Page? 45 Image tagging for Image:Paul_Deussen.jpg 46 Your removal of my edit on Big_Beautiful_Woman 47 Vandal warning toolbox.. 48 Orphaned fair use image (Image:The Essential Dan Fogelberg.jpg) 49 Getting blank lines in the toolbox 50 Tuff and Tufa 51 From a stub to a full article 52 Vandal warning toolbox integration 53 Vandalism Warning?

[edit] Tawkerbot2

Thanks for letting me know, I've had a look and taken that particular filter offline as it appears to not be perfect. Sadly the bot isn't perfect yet, we're always tweaking to see if we can make it better w/ no false positives.

As for the message, its a simple template to edit, do you have any ideas, I've softened it up before and people complain, I make it tougher and people complain, its rather hard to find middle ground, honestly, I'm open to comments both good and bad about the bot, all I want it to do is provide a deterrent, why vandalize if its gone in 10 seconds or less :) -- Tawker 06:56, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the response to my feedback. I've replied on your talk page. --Kbh3^rdtalk 05:32, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

In response to your reply I have changed the first message to the friendlier version, if they've triggered it enough to get the test4 message I am thinking the current harsh(er) message is appropiate. If you want to know exactly what triggers the bot, please let me know, I have a list but I rather not post it for everyone to see for fairly obvious reasons but any sysop / trusted user its no problem. Joshbuddy and I have been tweaking the filters a fair bit, I think our false positive rate is maybe 1% which considering the complexity of some of the vandalism its caught, is pretty good IMHO -- Tawker 07:41, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] thanks!

Thanks for making your perspective rendering of the topo map available! I've used it in my online textbook Electricity and Magnetism, on p. 134. You are of course properly credited in the photo credits in the back of the book, and the licensing information is given. The book is dual-licensed under GFDL and CC-BY-SA.--Ben Crowell, crowell06 at lightandmatter dot com

Great! I've clarified the dual-license status of that image on its description page to jibe with my intention to dual-license as stated on my user page. Good luck, and thanks for the note. --Kbh3^rdtalk 04:57, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] prod removal on Guild wars review

Hi you removed the proposed deletion template from the article Guild wars review and marked the edit a minor with the comment rv v (revert vandalism). I am interested in the rational behind this as it is neither a minor edit or vandalism. --Blue520 16:06, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry that don't I recall that, and the article seems to be gone now. (If I removed a deletion template, it apparently didn't stop that from happening!) I do lots of reverts of vandalism, and occasionally I slip up and do the wrong thing, though that's never my intention. I apologize if I erred. At this point this incident seems like water under the bridge, so I wouldn't dwell on it. --Kbh3^rdtalk 04:39, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for replying. Wrong things and mistakes happen all the time. At the time I hoped you were still on line and it was a mistake, so you or me could stick the prod tag back on it as a non-contested prod, in stead of having to take it to AfD. In the end I took it to AfD, where it was found to be a copyvio and was speedy deleted as a CSD A8. So it is as you put it water under the bridge. Keep fighting vandalism.--blue520 12:43, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Hi. I am sorry to bother you but I wondered if you might be prepared to take another look at my RfA nomination. The main reason that I ask this is because there has previously been some confusion as to my talk count and I also wonder if there might have been some confusion regarding the duration of my contributions. I would also like to comment on some of the concerns raised by others, which I have discussed on the nomination page, but which you may not be aware of.

Firstly with regard to my talk contributions and the duration of my contributions. I just wanted to clarify that I do have substantial numbers of contributions in the user talk namespace although significantly less in the main article and wikipedia talk namespace, so I do have a good history of interactions with other users but primarily on their user page (furthermore I have a good track record of warning vandals - something is often lacking for many vandal fighters both admin and non-admin). Regarding the duration of my contributions, I just wanted to clarify that I have now been contributing for 15 months in total and, although I have had a few "lean" months when my focus have been outside of Wikipedia, I had almost 2000 contributions before February and there have been 9 months when I have made 100+ contributions.

WIth regards to the concerns raised by other, which aren't covered by the above, they seem to relate primarily to my lack of contributions to the article talk and wikipedia talk namespaces and what this says about my community involvement and exposure to process. Firstly I would like to say that I don't think my contributions in this area are particularly low when compared to other current nominees and recently created admins who are/were heavily supported (I have provided some details on this in the comments section of the nomination) - as I said in the comments section this is not to say "they are supported so why aren't I", rather it is just to provide a benchmark to compare how common my contribution pattern is. Secondly I would like to point out that I do not typically revert vandalism in these namespaces which I believe play a significant part in the number of these contributions for vandal-fighter editors (especially in the article talk namespace). Finally I would just like to reiterate my personal opinion that, regarding edits to Wikipedia talk, contributing and understanding are different things (i.e. I do understand the policys and guidelines even though I have not actively contributed to them). With regard to my community involvement, I do have a fair number of edits to the mian Wikipedia namespace and also the user talk namespace as previously mentioned.

I understand that contacting you in this way may well be considered "campaigning" but I want to assure you that I am driven by good practical intentions rather than ego. As you will be aware, I am primarily a vandal fighter and I feel that the admin tools will allow me to far better serve the community in this area. Specifically I come across a lot of situations were there are very few editors on RC patrol and a lot of vandalism is being missed, this is compounded by the fact that AIAV is often not being heavily monitored during the same periods meaning that blocks are delayed and a lot of time is spent reverting vandals who have already received a final warning. This extra time spent reverting known vandals obviously mean that much new vandalism is missed - with the obvious effect on the quality and credibility of Wikipedia.

I would like to sum by saying that I feel I could make good use of the tools and that I have never done anything to raise concerns that I would misuse them. Cheers TigerShark 20:55, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reversion of JP2 page (144.126.233.xxx)

Why are you reverting my edits? "His Holiness, the Servant of God, Pope John Paul II" is his full title. Why the revert?

(That was from DCrazy at 23:42, April 2, 2006 UTC)

Because of Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(biographies)#Honorific_prefixes and Use of courtesy titles and honorifics in professional writing and Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (biographies)/Style War proposed solution, as long ago hashed out on the article's talk page and referenced by an in-line comment, which you chose to ignore, on the page right where you made your edit.

Please sign your comments on talk pages.

--Kbh3^rdtalk 14:00, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Hello Kbh3rd: Thank you for supporting me in my RfA, which passed with a final tally of 77/3/0. I hope I can perform at the standards expected for administrators. If I make any mistakes, or you need anything, please let me know. Prodego talk 01:18, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Hi Kbh3rd. Just a quick note to thank you for voting on my RfA, which recently passed 62/13/6. I want to let you know that I will do my best to address all concerns that were raised during the RfA. I will also do my very best live up to this new responsibility and to serve the community, but please let me know if I make any mistakes or if you have any feedback at all on my actions. Finally, if there is anything that I can assist you with - please don't hesitate to ask. Cheers TigerShark 04:07, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rush Limbaugh

Wanted to get your take off the discussion area, as to the removal of the inclusion and source. What is your take or reason? Rsm99833

I've watched the mini revert war go back and forth over this one without getting involved, but I basically agree with the previous editor's "POV inference" comment. In my honest opinion, it's completely inconsequential that a high school coach who has seen hundreds if not thousands of players come and go over the course of a career cannot remember one injury to one player a quarter century later, particularly if he wasn't the star player his year. The conclusion, therefore, is that the comment is included solely to cast aspersions, which is POV. Quod erat demonstrandum. (And, yes, I should have used the edit summary.) --Kbh3^rdtalk 18:03, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

That's reasonable. It was disussed a few months back. But in this case, I'll go with this reasoning more than "There's no proof." Rsm99833

[edit] Vandalism help

Sorry to bother you, but I'm pretty new to Wikipedia, and I'm not sure how to revert a page to a previous edition. There was some vandalism on the "St. Xavier H.S. Louisville, KY" article that you edited a while back. I'm asking for your help to do it again, since I'm not sure how to. Thanks for the help. 24.75.128.194

[edit] Message from you...

I got this message from you:

Thank you for experimenting with the page List of Stuyvesant High School people on Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia, which you are more than welcome to do. --Kbh3rdtalk 05:49, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

whaty does this mean? did you change it back? im confused... -- 24.184.18.0

That message was left for the user(s) of the IP address 24.184.18.0. Many network topologies share the same address among different users – it depends on how you are connected. It is possible that a previous user connected to the internet with 24.184.18.0 made the change that I reverted, and that you later connected with the same IP and received the message meant for that other editor. If that is the case, you can avoid this confusion in the future by creating an account – there are other benefits to doing so. (And if it was you who made the change that I reverted, you can avoid this situation by not adding non-notables to Wikipedia.) --Kbh3^rdtalk 14:50, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] feedback on your vandal warning script

This thread has been moved to the toolbox talk page

[edit] Vandalism

I don't know how this user talk thing works, but if this is it yay for me. This is a public school computer so the vandalism isn't done by one person. -- 64.8.190.50

Which school? --Kbh3^rdtalk 17:33, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, the vandal toolbox has been quite useful (though I mostly specialize in low level vandals<g>! - Nunh-huh 21:40, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandal warning toolbox

Yes I am finding it very useful. And thanks for the info on the the changes. Keep up the great work! - Akamad 23:33, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Changes in vandal toolbox

Thanks for your message on my talk page. As I've said in the past, I do find it very helpful. However, if you look at my monobook.js, you'll see that I've put in the full code by hand rather than linking it directly to yours. I did this because I didn't like the fact that it put in two or three returns from the line you were on. For example, if I wanted to indent a second or third warning with a colon, I would have to use the toolbox, then move the template back up a few lines. To fix this, I took your code and changed a couple of the page breaks. What is the best way for me to get these new changes now? EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 23:55, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. I can probably just use the diff from the update and incorporate what it is that I want. Thanks for all your hard work! EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 04:45, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] RE:Changes to vandal warning toolbox

The changes are good, thanks!. And yeah, I like the toolbox a lot. --Chodorkovskiy 04:07, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A barnstar for you!

Hi! I've told you in the past how much the vandal warning toolbox has helped me, and I really meant it. For this significant contribution, you deserve to be recognized. That's why I'm awarding you this barnstar. Feel free to copy/move it to your userpage if you so choose. Thanks for all your hard work! EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 16:58, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm glad you're finding it useful. Whack them moles! --Kbh3^rdtalk 23:54, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Fleet

Please refrain from adding nonsense to Wikipedia, as you did to TWA Flight 800. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. --Kbh3rdtalk 22:30, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

How is it nonsense? I have had two former employees that have verified the fact despite the confidentiality agreement. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Damienwolfe13 (talk • contribs) 23:11, 17 April 2006.

WP:CITE and/or WP:NOR cover it. --Kbh3^rdtalk 23:35, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Excuse me

Dear Sir / Madam

I am realy sorry about what happened for slingshot article.It was my fault and I ask you to forget me. Thank you very much for your attempt.

Best Regards Shahram Yazdanpanah

[edit] Vandal Warning Tools

Thanks, that looks very useful. I'm still not at all sure I buy using it on a user's first edit, though. I'm convinced that a lot of users try a test edit and never come back-- they heard about Wikipedia, they check it out, but it's just not something that grabs them. But I'll think about it. Thanks again. -- Mwanner | Talk 15:46, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

One other thing... would you consider adding {{spam}} ... {{spam3}} to the list? -- Mwanner | Talk 20:14, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I think that almost every instance of vandalism deserves a note of some sort. The first level is rather welcoming, IMHO, and not really even a slap on the wrist. But I understand your point. (What really gets my goat is when someone has vandalized a whole list of pages, all of which have been reverted, but no one has bothered to leave a single message asking them to stop. Maybe they would have stopped if asked to and they knew they were being watched and reveted. If not, they've earned a block, but it's kind of awkward to do that if they've never received a single warning.)

As for the spam warnings, I do have {{spam}} and {{spam-n|}} in there. I haven't perceived the need for the others too much, and since I think the list is already too long, I don't think I'll be adding unless there is a groundswell of demand. But I appreciate the suggestion.

--Kbh3^rdtalk 02:57, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry-- I didn't see it. And one Spam tag is enough-- I can always add a digit. Thanks again, -- Mwanner | Talk 11:49, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Another reason to always leave a message for casual, one-time "vandals" has to do with perceptions of Wikipedia's accuracy. If someone makes a small change and does not get a note about it being reverted and doesn't notice that it's been reverted, it reinforces the perception that Wikipedia cannot be a good source of information because anyone can make changes that go unnoticed and uncorrected. If, on the other hand, their one seemingly insignificant mischief results in a polite request to be good and pointers to tutorials and policies, their perception of Wikipedia's worth has to be better than otherwise. --Kbh3^rdtalk 23:46, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Just thought I should let you know that I have become a confirmed user of your warning tool. It makes good sense to let the little buggers (and the bigger ones, too) know that someone is watching each time they vandalise, and I've used AIV to get a number of them blocked. Now it annoys me, when I see reverts without warnings.

Thanks again, -- Mwanner | Talk 16:01, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Saints Wikiproject

I noted that you have been contributing to articles about saints. I invite you to join the WikiProject Saints. You can sign up on the page and add the following userbox to your user page.

I also invite you to join the discussion on prayers and infoboxes here: Prayers_are_NPOV.

Thanks! --evrik 14:21, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Chicken Or The Egg

I do not see why what I put in that article was classed as "vandalism". I just put what me and my friend had discussed which may lead people to think about the question. Please tell me why you found that inappropriate.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by SfasmTawSbasa (talk • contribs).

WP:NOR --Kbh3^rdtalk 17:47, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lauren Bush

I found a source that states that Lauren Bush was presented on the prince's arm - [1] WhisperToMe 03:54, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kim Jong Il block

Greetings! Yours (the shorter) takes precedence. It's a throwaway account so he may never come back, but it might be wise to indef block anyway. Cheers, Antandrus (talk) 04:48, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Also, you should have unblocked before reblocking - if multiple blocks are running simutaneously on one account, the earliest expiring one will override all others. As a result, if the indef block is to stick, you should unblock before reblocking. 04:56, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm reading up on it and just saw that. Thanks. --Kbh3^rdtalk 04:58, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] hi

would please make the favour of reading this http://www.relfe.com/plus_5_.html??? thanks

[edit] SLUH changes

I am wrong about the Gold medal of honor vs. just normal. whoops!

It seems that even though Buzz may have been elected a lot that that information does not contribute to SLUH, but rather to Buzz's image. Does he have an entry? if so, it could go in there. Otherwise, the adjectives "notable" or "popular" convey the same image without promoting him (even though he died). As well, superlatives are easily broken and thus would require careful monitoring. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by M.manary (talk • contribs).

I've watched but not been involved in the back-and-forth on the medal of honor. Did I put the {{citation needed}} on the Buzz Westfall bit? I don't remember, but I agree if what you're saying is that it's relevant to Buzz himself but doesn't really apply to the SLUH article. --Kbh3^rdtalk 02:06, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dave Ulliott

Its true, ask dave!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.3.50.60 (talk • contribs).

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for posting about that warning toolbox on my talk page. It is better than having to go digging for the right template. Took me several attempts to get a last warning to work just now. Thanks. --GW_Simulations_{Talk | Contribs | E-mail} 18:37, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism warnings

As you can see by the time stamps of the posts ([2], [3]) I was reverting at the same time you were adding a vandalism warning. At the time I was reverting, I didn't know that the talk page had just been changed. Sorry for the inconvenience. ... discospinster 16:51, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip. I was actually just going to look at the vandalism toolbox when I got your message. Cheers. ... discospinster 17:05, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] disruptive edit?

I am temporarily blocked from editing by you I believe, can you tell me which disruptive edit I made? Birdeditor 20:46, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Your userid has never been blocked. If you find that you are blocked, it must be because an IP address that you use, or the address of a proxy that you use, has been blocked, probably because of the actions of other thoughtless editors using the same address or gateway. It's really unfortunate that such "collateral damage" occurs.

If you can find out the IP address that is blocked, I or another administrator can look into unblocking it, at least until the vandalism becomes too bad again. But given that I haven't blocked anyone in several hours, and you successfully edited an article about 20 minutes ago, you may have a dynamic gateway address. You wouldn't happen to be using AOL, would you? They're notorious for that, and it could be difficult to determine which address is blocked and causing the problem. For that reason, among others, AOL address are typically blocked less frequently and for shorter durations than other address from which egregious edits occur.

Does any of that help you? --Kbh3^rdtalk 21:05, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] STL photo

Hey- it looks great! thanks for doing that. I decided to replace my original copy with your updated one.

Thanks again

Msedwick stl15.jpg

[edit] on codify

you reverted my last edit that redirected to codification. is that what's hot in th streetz? looking at the back links, I figured codification was the place people needed to go. I actually prefer a page that lists codif.(ling) and codif.(law) side-by-side, but it looks like the law meanings a bit more linked to. WalkUnseen 16:14, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Useless Ramblings

You removed my comments. Though I was initially offended -- Admittedly a newbie here -- How do I properly add commentary that when the Caleb heard my perspective was said to have felt honored to have been a role model? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jane Public (talk • contribs).

1. I don't know what edit you're talking about. I don't see a revert of an edit of yours by me. Maybe it's there and I'm missing it, given the paucity of clues.
2. The nearest I can find is this one, though I'm not too confident that's what you mean. (The citation doesn't mention Burmese – as if any of that matters anyway. He's a person, which is all that matters, not a pedigreed poodle.)
3. Ahh, maybe you mean this edit. That wasn't by me, that was by WedNESday (talk • contribs). I agree about the pointless rambling, though it appears that we two do agree on the point about race. Editorializing of any sort does not belong in articles.
4. I have no idea what you're asking above. Coherence is a virtue.
5. Please sign you posts on talk pages if you expect any attention to be paid to them. (Use four tildes: ~~~~.)
6. The path away from newbie status begins at the welcome page.

--Kbh3^rdtalk 21:57, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hissy fit

My account was left accidently open on a public computer, we all make mistakes. Who are you and what makes you think you can put feeble threats on my user page when I haven't done anything wrong. Don't darken my userpage again. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Freedomforallwomen (talk • contribs).

Your talk page is not your user page and serves a different purpose. See Wikipedia:User page. --Kbh3^rdtalk 21:01, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Kbh3rd probably means that your talk page is not your user page. In any case, I was unable to find a single edit other than vandalism or excuses from Freedomforallwomen. The user is a blatant vandal. --Yamla 21:23, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blatant Vandalism

Please, at your earliest chance, check the "Whiz" Wiki meaning. It was just another advetisement. I have updated it to mean what was meant to be. The individual is of Whiz-tv. I have changed it using Encylcopedias and Thesaurus's.

In the past (about three years ago, I tried to contact them, no reply, now I don't care to discuss anything with them. In the past months, they have continually vandalized the "Whiz" wikipedia page to advertise thier objectives.

I am Whiz WHISenant, I have a site (offline), other blogs. Have been called Whiz since I was two (2). I have been contacted by phone, mail and email as Whiz. My addres on Yellow pages will show that as well. Now I am contacting relatives and friends. With Court action in mind against the tv station.

Please interviene.

Thank you, Whiz WHISenant Official Whiz (talk • contribs)

No idea why you tagged me with this, but I will be replying on your talk page. --Kbh3^rdtalk 01:05, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the tool tip. I am normally logged in through VandalProof so rv's/warnings are just one button->done I basically have access to a computer in every room in my house(even out by the pool). Obviously VandalProof isn't running on all of them. It'd be great to have a quick n' easy tool built into my regular browser. I'll be sure to set it up. Again, thanks! Cheers and take care. Anger22 18:38, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Hello, Kbh3rd. Thank you for helping to revert vandalism by 82.44.79.192 (talk • contribs). I have created a recap of recent activity surrounding this user on User talk:82.44.79.192#Recap of recent activity. Could you please review, edit as appropriate, and endorse if you feel compelled? Thanks again for your help. Lbbzman 14:37, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Not Spam

I've recently received the following message: Please do not add commercial links (or links to your own private websites) to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising or a mere collection of external links. You are, however, encouraged to add content instead of links to the encyclopedia. See the welcome page to learn more.

Though the links were to commercial websites, they are online city magazines and bussines directories for a specific city/town. For example a link to KnowAbout Peterborough would be placed under media. Though this may appear as spam, these sites are valuable sources of information on a specific city/town and shouldn't constitute spam. The sites are operated by local people through KAN online management systems. What would be the best way to suggest people visit the sites if they're looking for information on a specific city/town?

I've also noticed that other online directories are often listed under external links. Please help.

Michael Bell KnowAboutNet

[edit] Re: Mississippi River pollution

I did reword it to some degree. Although, I posted the website as a source under external links and gave credit to the author. If i take those steps, why is it infringement?Dan 13:37, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

It's infringement because you copied the text of another author. That original author is the only one who has the right to make a copy of his own work or to give permission to others to copy – hence copy·right. Rewording "to some degree" does not change that – copyright extends to derivative works. You need to digest the information, combine it with information digested from other sources if possible, and produce your own original work from the internalized information. (I recognized your contribution as unoriginal by its unencyclopedic tone and found the original source with Google before I noticed your link – sufficient proof in itself that the rewording was insufficient.) That you gave credit to the author and provided a link is immaterial as well. I could not give away with indemnity copies of Harry Potter that I produced myself just because I credited J. K. Rowling. (Note also that lack of financial gain is not a defense to copyright infringement.)

Copyright is a complex subject, but not inscrutable. And it is intimately tied to Wikipedia, both in how it affects contributors and those who would copy Wikipedia's content. Your question makes me think that you should start reading up on the topic if you plan on being a productive contributor. As would be expected, there is a lot of useful information on Wikipedia. Besides the Copyright article, look at these pages, and follow the links in them, too:

• Wikipedia:Copyright FAQ
• Wikipedia:Copyright issues
• Wikipedia:Copyrights
• Wikipedia:Contributing FAQ

And all the other pages under the See also section of Wikipedia:Copyrights. If you grasp all that, you'll be the top copyright expert on your block. ;-) --Kbh3^rdtalk 03:37, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll check those out. I have a pretty small block though.... P.S. ty, Dan 17:32, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please Help

Dear sir,

I am not trying to promote a commercial operation in my links (i.e. to Bread). I spent a long time digitizing for free download these books for the gutenberg project, and, after hearing on the radio Wikipedia's need for citation, am trying to make sure these books are as easily accessible as possible. I earn $0 from linking people to the books. Should I upload the books to Wikipedia and then cite? How should I cite? Please respond to me soon, as I wish to be as helpful as possible.

--Aaron Brachfeld fallowfields@hotmail.com (63.227.42.20)

Unless I am mistaken after my cursory look at the linked page, that site was not about bread per se, but about a book about bread, and about selling the book. That forms the basis of my objection. However, if the text, which is about bread is on Gutenberg, I'd recommend a link to it there. Proper ways to cite books as references are discussed at WP:CITE. Thank you for contributing. --Kbh3^rdtalk 19:52, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] confused

hi, im so very very confused. it said i had a new message, so i read said message and it was something about changing a thomas jefferson page. i havent googled thomas jefferson, or looked at any information regarding him in the past 3 years,or ever on this machine. so im just really confused.

[edit] Your edits on Ricky Ullman

what do your edits on Ricky Ullman have to do with him?--Cutie 4 life 04:50, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

What edits might those be? I done a few reverts of ill-advised edits on that article, but none since May 17 of this year. It most likely got on my watchlist when I reverted vandalism found while on recent changes patrol, but I really could not care less about the subject, apart from keeping Wikipedia clean and accurate. --Kbh3^rdtalk 19:36, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] How to Write Good

I really enjoyed reading the short section How to Write Good on your user page. Good laughs! --Pensador82 00:22, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removed Remarks from Talk Page?

You left a message for my IP address, but I have NEVER removed a remark from a wikipedia page, or a talk page. I've read wikipedia, but I've never read the article on the Chronicles of Narnia, and I have never even edited a single page. However you got my IP address...I have no idea. 72.68.36.11 19:54, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

At the bottom of "your" user talk page, please read the box where it says, "This is the discussion page for an anonymous user, identified by the user's numerical IP address. Some IP addresses change periodically, and may be shared by several users. If you are an anonymous user, you may create an account or log in to avoid future confusion with other anonymous users. Registering also hides your IP address."

The IP address in questions resolves to pool-72-68-36-11.nwrknj.east.verizon.net, which is almost assuredly a shared, dynamically assigned address. The list of edits for that address shows deletion of the entire contents of the article talk page you reference. That was obviously by someone other than yourself who at that time had been assigned the same IP address you were assigned months later when you found my comment on the user talk page.

I'm sorry that you were confused by comments ultimately not directed towards you. I'd recommend that you follow the advice above and create an account for yourself. It's easy and free, it avoids this type of confusion, and it gives you the ability to build a personal reputation on Wikipedia while actually enhancing your privacy. --Kbh3^rdtalk 20:07, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image tagging for Image:Paul_Deussen.jpg

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[edit] Your removal of my edit on Big_Beautiful_Woman

The term Chubby-chaser is normally associated with the Chubby_culture and as such does not refer to a man who is attracted to a Fat woman, who would be known as an FA (Fat_admirer) NOT a Chubby-chaser!

[edit] Vandal warning toolbox..

Hi Kbh3rd, I was wondering, now that the User Warning templates have been updated (see WP:UTM), do you have any desire of updating the vandal warning toolbox to reflect these new warnings? I wasn't sure if you were still interested, there still seems to be a handful of people still using it (myself included!). I tried to modify it via my .js and add and modify some warnings in it, but it didn't quite work :/. Let me know your thoughts. —Pilotguy (ptt) 16:12, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

No suggestions right now (you can work your toolbox better than I can), but maybe you ought to just replace the existing warnings, say, replace {{test1}}2, 3, and so on with {{uw-vandalism1}}2, 3, and so on... in other words, maybe replace the existing warnings with the updated ones on that page. Though I've never used the NPOV warning, and I think the obscene warning has been deleted, so that frees up some space for you right there. You get the idea. —Pilotguy (ptt) 19:57, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:The Essential Dan Fogelberg.jpg)

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[edit] Getting blank lines in the toolbox

Hi, could you look at this? Thanks. Jacek Kendysz 11:54, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tuff and Tufa

I have virtually no knowledge of geology, but it seems to me that there are several things wrong with the tuff and tufa articles.

I am studying a historical course with the Open University, and it seems that tuff used to be called tufa, may still perhaps be called tufa in other countries (e.g. Italy), and prominent archaeologists/classicists still use the old terminology. This despite the fact that amongst geologists the distiction was clear in 1954 (Penguin's "A Dictionary of Geology") - though the Concise Oxford Dictionary was still using tufa as a catch-all term in 1964 (reprinted 1974).

I am wondering how this information can be used to modify the articles on tuff and tufa. It seems plain that (1) the existing contents of the tufa article refers to both tuff (in regard to Rome) and tufa, and (2) the dogmatic statements in both articles on the distinctions need to be clarified - the fact that current geology distinguishes is not sufficient if other current and/or foreign academic materials may not!

If you allow me to email you I can quote you the above copyright items - the piece in my course study guide from the Open University is particularly illuminating

--PeterR 13:23, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Everything I know about tuff and tufa I learned from Wikipedia. You need to find a real geologist. I'm just a wanna-be who almost chose to major in Geology way back when. (My son is studying mining engineering, though!) --Kbh3^rdtalk 22:57, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

P.S.: This is the English Wikipedia, and what things are called in Italian may or may not have any bearing on how the English terms are applied.

[edit] From a stub to a full article

Thank you for publishing a stub about me. It is correct and inoffensive, though oddly proportioned, and it leaves out major aspects about me. My students and friends think it is neat that I am listed. So I have prepared a much more complete set of biographical information, but do not want to presume to post it myself. Here it is. You can decide what to post, what to leave out, and what to query me about. And you can decide what to delete from this posting according to your standards and taste.

Thank you very much. Best wishes, 64.121.56.100 04:14, 20 February 2007 (UTC)Norman Sperling Editor, The Journal of Irreproducible Results nsperling@california.com

Born: Washington, DC. Son of Frederick Sperling, PhD, 1913-1996, professor of pharmacology and toxicology at Howard University Medical School; and musician Katherine Sperling, 1912-1962. Brother of mathematician Barry Sperling. Graduated from Montgomery Blair High School, Silver Spring, MD. Most famous classmate: Connie Chung. BA Michigan State University. MA University of California, Berkeley, History of Science.

father of Lumin Sperling and Mason Sperling.

Currently: editor and publisher, The Journal of Irreproducible Results, the science humor magazine, www.jir.com . author of "What Your Astronomy Textbook Won’t Tell You", 0-913399-04-3. author of "Any Parent’s Recipe for Great Baseball", published on the website www.anyparentsrecipe.com . teach astronomy at University of California, Berkeley, Fall Program for Freshmen.

Formerly: Science Editor, www.AltaVista.com; published “The inSCIder” and “The a: List” columns. Assistant Editor, Sky & Telescope.

taught astronomy and related courses at: Sonoma State U, Cal State U Hayward, San Francisco State U, and several colleges. College courses taught: Introductory Astronomy, Astronomy Laboratory, History of Astronomy, History of Physical Sciences, Popular Optics, Spaceflight, How to Produce a Planetarium Show.

Taught dozens of personal-interest adult classes.

Expert witness on astronomical issues. Most famous case: The “Billionaire Boys’ Club”, where prosecutors (and book authors and TV producers) swallowed the accuser’s tales. They’re bunk, and convictions based on them have been reversed.

Planetarium director/in charge: Duncan Planetarium, Princeton Day School, NJ; Rotary-Chabot Planetarium, Chabot Observatory and Science Center, CA; Edgewood Junior High School Planetarium, MD.

Lecturer, Morrison Planetarium, San Francisco.

Created the Catalog of North American Planetaria (CATNAP), which later expanded into the Planetarium Directory.

Inventor: Astroscan telescope for Edmund Scientific (with Mike Simmons); "The Stars Above" star-finder for Spherical Concepts; bride-and-groom inscribed chopsticks. www.customchopsticks.com .

Published articles in Academic American Encyclopedia, Encyclopedia Americana online, Technology Review, San Francisco Examiner, Astronomy, Pacific Discovery, Journal of College Science Teaching, Mercury, Rittenhouse, Popular Astronomy, Telescope Making, Griffith Observer, Reflector, and The Pundit.

AWARDS: National Service Award, Western Amateur Astronomers.

Special Award “For special and meritorious service for his unusual dedication and service to the astronomical community in all areas of astronomy”, Astronomical Association of Northern California.

Fellow of the International Planetarium Society, first induction.

---. Little League coach.

active in: Bay Area Skeptics www.baskeptics.org (chair, vice-chair, program). Northern California Historical Astronomy Luncheon and Discussion Association, www.nchalada.org cofounder, host. my childrens’ PTA and baseball leagues. Amateur astronomy (having held positions in local, regional, national, and international groups). Planetaria (having held positions in regional and international groups).

Thanks for this information, and thanks for keeping with Wikipedia's policy to avoid writing in articles about one's self. I'll try to incorporate this into the article in proper fashion soon. If I recall correctly, I created the biographical stub when I added a note about John Dobson's book to his biographical article. I figured that if the editor of the book was mentioned by name then there should be a linked article to go along with the reference. Thanks again. --Kbh3^rdtalk 04:24, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandal warning toolbox integration

Could this tool be integrated with lupins anti vandal tool, so that links to the options your tool provides appear beside the 'show details', 'rollback' options on lupins filter recent changes/recent changes/recent ip edits pages? it would save quite a bit of time not having to go to the users talk page to use this fantastic tool. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by -jmac- (talk • contribs) 21:41, 28 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Vandalism Warning?

You wrote:

Please refrain from adding nonsense to Wikipedia, as you did to 2012. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. --Kbh3rdtalk 20:40, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

I have never edited "2012" and am not sure why I got the above message from you??? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.182.147.70 (talk • contribs).

Both the explanation and the solution are given at the bottom of the talk page where you found that message:

This is the discussion page for an anonymous user, identified by the user's numerical IP address. Some IP addresses change periodically, and may be shared by several users. If you are an anonymous user, you may create an account or log in to avoid future confusion with other anonymous users. Registering also hides your IP address.

Emphasis added. Given that the message in question was left over a year ago, it's highly likely that the assignement of that IP address has changed and that the message was left for someone entirely different.

--Kbh3^rdtalk 21:07, 19 March 2007 (UTC)