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[edit] Pronunciation?
I'm confused on the pronunciation. In the entry it's written "KAY-faybe," but it's unclear whether the e should be silent, or whether instead there should be three syllables. In other words -- "KAY-fayb" or "KAY-fay-bee?" --Jay (Histrion) (talk • contribs) 21:01, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
Fixed Bdve 01:45, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
Regarding the pronunciation. I have a couple friends who've been running with Mid America Shows for a while now. They taught me a little "carniese," which is just a modified version of Pig-latin. I wish I could tell you the exact rules to it, but it involves swapping first and last syllables (or phonetic sounds) and adding an extra syllable to it. My friends used an "-izz" added in the middle of the word if it ended in a consonant, and added to the end of the word if it ended with a vowel. There were some other rules as to words that are proper names too but I don't remember them other than you didn't swap syllables, you instead added more. I do remember something about using "-bee" too but it was only for certain cases.
I think it might actually be Kay-fay-bee for the correct pronunciation, but all I'm really going off is hearsay from some friends of mine. Kay-fay-bee sounds right though, more so than Kay-Fabe. Anyone else have some input on this? --RaggTopp 15:21, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
- It sounds a bit like polari, or other cants. Secretlondon 03:13, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Team 3D
I'm removing the part about Team 3D in the Examples of Kayfabe, because they do not share a resemblence.
138.88.60.196 02:01, 20 April 2006 (UTC)Brendan
I just removed the Dudley Boyz for the same reason. Gitrcollectibles 06:17, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Kayfabe Confusion
Hi guys, I know pretty much nothing about wrestling but would be interested to know at least some basic facts. I had a look at the kayfabe article and wasn't able to figure out how, and if, it differs from simply "acting". The issue is: if it's just acting then the article could be much shorter, and if it is something different I am not able to grasp that from the article. Is it just me? --Gennaro Prota 17:04, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
- Kayfabe refers to the acting; however the events are portrayed as real. For example, WWE doesn't acknowledge that Stephanie McMahon and Triple H are married, nor do they recognize their influence behind the scenes. In Carlito's case, he could simply be making up history to suit his character. Your question may be better suited for the talk: Kayfabe page, however. I'm going to copy and paste part of the discussion over there. This page is about Carlito OsFan 22:56, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
- Kayfabe in the modern form could pretty well be summed up as "just acting"; however, kayfabe throughout history encompassed much more. It was an overall mindset of "protecting the business", making it look real to outsiders. Kayfabe was Vince McMahon having Ted DiBiase flown everywhere on a private Lear Jet to make people think he was rich. Kayfabe was Chris Benoit and Woman travel together and sleep in the same hotel room to put over the idea that Woman was cheating on Kevin Sullivan with Benoit (a situation that became real life later). Kayfabe was Jerry Lawler and Andy Kaufman brawling on the set of Late Night with David Letterman. Kayfabe was "Dr. D" David Schultz slapping the crap out of John Stossel because Stossel committed the one cardinal sin that anybody who covered wrestlig could committ at the time--he asked if it was fake. Kayfabe is a little acting, a little stage magic, and (until recently) a whole lot of covering-up. That's just my take anyway. --HBK|Talk 04:42, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] More kayfabe confusion
A few weeks ago on RAW, Vince mentioned that Stephanie was pregnant. Isn't he breaking kayfabe when he says something like that? In the WWE world, Steph and HHH are divorced. So, what is she... knocked-up? In kayfabe, I mean. -Abdullah- 13:17, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
Vince never said that Triple H was the father, although I wonder what they will do when she gives birth. TJ Spyke 18:54, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
There is a disgusting rumour on this (later proved true by Vince himself on the McMahon DVD) that he was going to kayfabe that he was the dad in an incest angle, when Steph rightfully turned it down he then suggested her brother Shane (yes he really is her brother) to be the father. again this was turned down, thankfully. God Vince is an idiot.
[edit] Opening Paragraph
Maybe someone should re-word the part about Diesal and Razor Ramon. At the time Diesal was storyline wise a heel, and not a rival of Triple H(who was also a heel). TJ Spyke 19:03, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
On the subject of the opening paragaph, is it only me who finds the wording confusing? Surely it could be simplified in some way? --SesameRambler 15:34, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Desire Vids?
In what circles are vignettes and the like referred to as "Desire" videos? The Desire videos were a one off thing in 2002 akin to the "I'm not a real athlete" videos from 98 --68.48.204.116 13:33, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Sources
This article currently does not have any reliable sources. Anything that cannot be verified is prone to removal. - 00:12, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
- That's a shame. This explains pro wrestling better than the pro wrestling page.66.57.225.77 06:46, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
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- We still have some sourcing issues especially in regards to internal politics. And hard to source insider knowledge. This is an important article and perhaps we should try and cite some of the shoot videos if there are any. NegroSuave 16:06, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Contradiction
There is a contradiction between this article and Rey Mysterio's. This one mentions that Rey really did quit, while his own article says it was kayfabe. I do not know which is true, though I hope it's the latter. Could someone fill me in and edit the article that is incorrect? -December 30, 2006 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.115.143.51 (talk) 04:55, 31 December 2006 (UTC).
[edit] Lesbian Torrie and Dawn
Did Torrie Wison and Dawn marie have a real lesbian relationship like it siad in the article or is it fake (Not kayfabE)
[edit] Curtain Call Incident
Doesn't anybody else think the infamous MSG Curtain Call incident should be mentioned in this article, since it was an important landmark in wrestling kayfabe? Many say it was the day kayfabe died.
[edit] Eddie Guerrero
Is the dead of Eddie Guerrero a real event, or merely kayfabe? Aside WWE, I have found no notices of it in any news site like CNN or BBC, even though they should report such event on their entertainment sections.
- Its a real life event, and many sites like Yaho and CNN did mention it. They would never fake a performer's death like that. (Domt say Undertaker/Katie Vick/Al Wilson, those are events that are obviously meant to be scripted) --Cronosquall 23:02, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
